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Old April 5th, 2013, 12:30 PM
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@雷影 イチロ: An RP with the flavor text 'Do whatever you want' is probably the ripest ground for issues between RPers to arise short of competitive RPing. If there is no active person available to handle said issues as they come up, select users might abuse this fact to enforce their will over others, likely making the RP a rather hostile place to be--which kind of undermines the purpose.

If Skymin (Or some other staffer) is going to be the one in charge of that, I feel like that's extra work on their part and that we should probably ask them if they're up for something like that before considering it.
Obviously you aren't understanding the concept very well, so I will explain again and more simpler. THERE WILL BE STAFF - A selection of staff, mostly veteran, but perhaps some less so to manage the thread spread across differing time zones so there is not 5 staff on at one time, then none at the other. Just like GMs of an RP. Simple enough?

Skymin can step in whenever she sees fit as she is the MODERATOR of the section. She plays as active part in the thread as she wants, but can ultimately shut it down if things get out of hand and the GMs can't handle it.

From some ground rules set: 8) All Game Masters must be and act fair to all Roleplayers; despite previous grievances. In return, Roleplayers must abide by any warnings or rules they choose to enforce. If you think this is unfair, take it up with either the Management.

The staff essentially moderate themselves with an impartial "Head' GM, and above them, Skymin as mod. Not everyone is as hopeless as your cynical view of the world portrays. Ultimately whoever runs the thread will be chosen by Skymin as she is the mod.

And again, you're talking in if's, but's and when's. Which it's great to have a devils advocate to iron out the worst parts, however it makes it hard ifmn you choose not to understand and continue to be cynical. WHAT IF everyone was responsible? Then we could have a good time. WHAT IF people decided to not disobey the rules and run rampant? Again, we would have a good time.

PS, whatever beef you have with me is your own and doesn't belong on the forum. Doesn't make you a very competent GM....
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Old April 5th, 2013, 03:54 PM
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Arguments aside, if everyone is a-ok with this, I'm A-OK to iron out some creases and create a first post and sticky it up when anyone is ready.

I know it may seem a bit wishy-washy and a little hard to grasp but as soon as we get it started, set some ground rules and give it a go, we'll be fine. If the thread doesn't work, it gets deleted. No harm done. We can't knock it 'till we try it.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 05:38 PM
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I'm all for that Skymin. Probably get some veterans on it to act out certain parts and just mod the place so that there are no bullies and such.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 10:38 PM
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Cue wild Greiger. Wild Greiger used IDEA! Ahaha, this sounds interesting. I don't see why things would get out of hand if the thread is moderated. Make it be!
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Old April 5th, 2013, 11:23 PM
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Cue wild Greiger. Wild Greiger used IDEA! Ahaha, this sounds interesting. I don't see why things would get out of hand if the thread is moderated. Make it be!
The idea actually came from the great and wonderful Ichiro, not Greiger. Though I'm sure the dude will contribute to it if/when he gets the chance, this is 雷影 イチロ's brainchild.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 01:52 AM
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The idea actually came from the great and wonderful Ichiro, not Greiger. Though I'm sure the dude will contribute to it if/when he gets the chance, this is 雷影 イチロ's brainchild.
who cares lol :D

Have we ever had "bullies" in the RP Corner? We're so cuddly and friendly here. Or maybe I've just ignored the ones that existed at some point.

Btw hasn't there been really few new RPs created lately? *notices thanks to the library* Hopefully that is because many aren't dying and focusing on thriving on and finishing instead!
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Old April 6th, 2013, 06:18 AM
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Oooh, nice then Ichiro. Then if anything Ichiro should be the one in charge and if he wants can have staff helping him cause if anything, there will be times when lots of rpers come into that thread and he could be out for the day or such. Anyways, it'll be a learning experience!
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Old April 6th, 2013, 06:53 AM
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I actually fail to see the problem in this idea? This was actually something over in Other Trivia (Forum Games now) and it had people who didn't even normally roleplay join. So I don't think people in the RPC will actually cause problems considering most of us are more experienced than the ones in the Other Trivia version.

The only reason it wasn't posted here was because it didn't really follow some of RPC's rules. But those were short posts and the like, so there shouldn't be too much problem here.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 08:48 AM
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That idea is a very good one, it should be done. Not only will it help new RP'ers, but it would be more likely to draw in potential RP'ers, and for those who go away for a while, they can use that RP to get back in the swing of things, and will develop skills and make the people on here better, which is good(?).
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Old April 6th, 2013, 09:03 AM
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I think I recall something like this for Other Trivia at one time.

Anyway, I like this idea, and I don't see the harm on trying it out.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 04:06 PM
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Have we ever had "bullies" in the RP Corner?
We totally have. I think the discrepancy is that often-times issues are kept local or even straight up private instead of erupting into a drama-fest that drags the entire RP corner's attention to it. I know this because there've been several occasions where I've been asked to help find solutions for such incidents. It does say nice things about our community that we can handle it that way though. There's no such thing as perfect communities, so how a community handles the issues that /do/ arise is what really demonstrates it's quality.


@雷影 イチロ: Thanks for explaining that in a clear manner. As a matter of fact I don't think I had fully grasped what you had in mind from the post I was responding to and I apologize for... that. However, you just brought an entirely separate concern to the table. Are you going to treat your RPers as poorly as you just treated me? All I was trying to do was provide constructive criticism for the explicit purposes of trying to help you make sure your RP avoids a roadblock I've seen similar RPs hit in the past. Suddenly, I'm an incompetent cynicist who can't handle complex thoughts? "Hey, so... That's a pretty reasonable reaction, huh?"

This isn't about me and some hidden grudge. I'm a far cry from the first person you've treated this way on the RPC and if you asked me, given that I'm not a moderator and thus my interpretation of the rules is of debatable value, /that attitude/ is the only thing that's inappropriate for this forum. I feel that if you continue to treat your fellow RPers, never mind the RPers that look up to you as an authority figure, with this much disrespect it will have a significant impact on the ability of your RP to be successful--And that's speaking optimistically. The RP concept you introduced is great. It's a classic and I think it has a lot of potential--But y'know what would suck? If something else just /undermined/ that strong base concept.

I'm a strong advocate of trusting people to behave and giving people the benefit of the doubt--I've got two RPs that stand as testaments to the fact. There's just... no real reason to not be prepared for if something /does/ go wrong for whatever reason.

As someone who is heavily invested in the RPC, I want you to be successful, and by extension I want to see you improve in areas that might be weak spots for you. Everyone has misunderstandings, and this entire confrontation could've been avoided if this one had just been handled better. This is why respect has it's own section in the Roleplaying Etiquette guide--It's so important.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 05:04 PM
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Slips on power gloves Am I going to have to keep some peace around here? Cause I got a couple friends name peace and justice (or chaos and evil, can't remember) either way, they don't use words.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 09:59 PM
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Ummmm. Okay. Let's move on guys. The idea's good, let's move on with it, it's not anything very serious with a plot so it's not like anything will actually be affected if it dies.

Also, Darkhaven3's new RP is certainly... intriguing.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 11:05 PM
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Forgive me oh great Skymin, I'm kinda new to this place. ;__; I hope I don't go offtopic. lol :(
I assume we can discuss anything about roleplaying? I had a few questions though. So, people who sign up for a particular thread come up with their own stuff for the plot, right? How do you deal with the ones who go rogue and start doing weird stuff? ('cause I can totally picture myself doing so. xD)
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Old April 6th, 2013, 11:40 PM
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I assume we can discuss anything about roleplaying? I had a few questions though. So, people who sign up for a particular thread come up with their own stuff for the plot, right? How do you deal with the ones who go rogue and start doing weird stuff? ('cause I can totally picture myself doing so. xD)
Welcome then, newling~

Anything about roleplaying goes here, yes. As for your question, it depends on the roleplay. Some are heavily moderated by the GM and the players can pretty much only control their own character bar some unimportant NPCs while acting around the plot which the GM presents. Others give more freedom.

If roleplayer go rogue to the point that it disturbs other players or ruins for the GM, the GM has every right to step up and ask them to change. Nicely, of course :)
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Old April 7th, 2013, 07:05 AM
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^ oh dear. what have you done this time, SV?

Haha, as long as you discuss something related to roleplaying, you're fine. Those guys were talking about power gloves so I decided that wasn't really... roleplay related. d:
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Old April 7th, 2013, 08:32 AM
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Are there any active roleplays around here that are accepting applications that don't require a description of characters' physical appearances? Also, are there any active roleplays that the characters actually interact and communicate with one another? I've read through quite a few roleplays and a majority of them are just the characters on their own dealing with their dealings and interacting with NPCs they create. I'm not interested in interacting with characters I create.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 09:13 AM
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Are there any active roleplays around here that are accepting applications that don't require a description of characters' physical appearances? Also, are there any active roleplays that the characters actually interact and communicate with one another? I've read through quite a few roleplays and a majority of them are just the characters on their own dealing with their dealings and interacting with NPCs they create. I'm not interested in interacting with characters I create.
So something more like a casual roleplay? Eh, as far as I know, I don't think there's an active roleplay like that yet, but, I think the RP cafe that these guys are working on is sort of like that?

But still, that's an interesting idea; maybe there can be more casual RP's like that, which don't require a general descriptive written appearance, or history? (because yeah, sometimes I get tired of writing long descriptions for appearances in SU's.) :(
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Old April 7th, 2013, 09:21 AM
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Even though it's advised by professional writers, I don't like planning out my characters ahead of time. I like letting my imagination take control and go into something blind, and develop the character with a blank perspective from the beginning and, during the duration of writing for that character, learning about him or her and developing one on my own organically.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 10:09 AM
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Even though it's advised by professional writers, I don't like planning out my characters ahead of time. I like letting my imagination take control and go into something blind, and develop the character with a blank perspective from the beginning and, during the duration of writing for that character, learning about him or her and developing one on my own organically.
Ah, so, a roleplay without the normal Sign Up sheet? (well other than the name, and age... whatever?)
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Old April 7th, 2013, 04:25 PM
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For those of you who meddled around in the Other Trivia Section, you'll know what I'm talking about.

Otherwise guys, listen up.

A while ago, a thought came to me regarding the distinction between the Discussion Thread, and normal IC threads. When the Incredibly Wandering Thread showed up, and people started to post in it I thought; Why not make an RP like that?

With the working title as the RP Corner Nightclub, essentially it would be a thread where RPers could go to casually RP in a semi-social environment. It wouldn't require any sign-ups, but rather people could come as themselves, their forum persona, or as any of the myriad characters RPers have from RPs new and old.

I'm still working on the logistics, regulations and layout of the thread, but would people be interested in this kind of thread? Discussion of topics over a cold pint of Beer* with your friends, or play a game of Fooseball or a Pokemon Battle with another RPer. I guess what I'm trying to get at is it's not a thread where talk is limited to being about Roleplaying or and IC that has to follow a linear path or requires and SU; practically a casual RPing thread that you can have a little fun in.

Any takers?

*Non-Alcoholic drinks served for those underaged. XD
So, I started reading the last two pages and got veeeeery confused between the arguing and the discussions on this idea, so I went back and found it to figure out what was going on, lol.

Yeah, I remember this from the OT section. It was pretty fun. I wouldn't mind something like this popping up. It went pretty smoothly in OT. Well, then again, a lot of the people there weren't crazy RPers like us, but . . . anyways! d:

And, random tidbit: I saw the musical Wicked earlier today. Amazing! Halfway through it started to give me ideas for a roleplay, or a story, or something. Then I finished it and wasn't exactly sure what I could do with it. Either I would need to read the fourteen Wizard of Oz books and the Wicked trilogy, or I would need to create an alternate universe of sorts, lol.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 06:34 PM
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^ oh dear. what have you done this time, SV?

Haha, as long as you discuss something related to roleplaying, you're fine. Those guys were talking about power gloves so I decided that wasn't really... roleplay related. d:
What? No, c'mon, Skymin, that was incredibly related. Power Gloves are the epitome of roleplay!

As for the nightclub idea...it scares me. The idea that part of OT/FG would be implanted in the Roleplay Corner would basically be like I'm trapped in OT half the time I'm here, since that's basically where I spend most of my time on PC (other than Roleplaying and frequenting the hacking and video games forums).

Despite all of that, I like the idea, and I'd definitely participate if it came into being. The lax environment of OT/FG mixed with role playing is something that seems like it's be really enjoyable.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 07:19 PM
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@ Pretty much everyone - The best way to work out if it (the cafe thing) will work is to just try it and find out I figure we can all agree on that rather than discussing it further and starting arguments.

@ Patchisou - Are you in PTA? They allow images rather than a written description for memory and the RP involves a lot of interaction. Echo has predetermined appearances, and has an available spot I believe but it has little interaction. Forsaken has some unique interaction focus but looks like Wolf wants a great deal of detail in SUs. My RPs (Survival Challenge v2, Novia and Reapers) involve a lot of interaction (especially Reapers and PSC2) but agian, require a decent physical description. Does that help any?
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Old April 7th, 2013, 09:42 PM
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Sounds like I'll just have to make my own up, I suppose! I don't like sign up sheets that allow you to use an image to show your character, because I'm really anal about character consistency and there are some people who would probably use a real human while there are others who would probably choose an anime character, and anime characters on their own have so many different art styles. Things like that bother me a great deal.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 03:51 AM
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Sounds like I'll just have to make my own up, I suppose! I don't like sign up sheets that allow you to use an image to show your character, because I'm really anal about character consistency and there are some people who would probably use a real human while there are others who would probably choose an anime character, and anime characters on their own have so many different art styles. Things like that bother me a great deal.
I'm just curious; how would you make one? Because I do like where your coming from, but I'm just wondering how the Roleplay can accept people.. and so on.
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