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Old January 30th, 2009 (09:58 PM).
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Here is where you can discuss the Team Rocket trio version of 'trimming the fat' in "A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine!"

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Old January 31st, 2009 (10:51 AM).
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-A Pocha sculpture.
-Rockets and Satoshi say the title.
-Hikari is trying to ruin Pocha. He'll remember this.
-Kimi no Soba de!
-Pachi is alive.
-Old Rocket motto.
-Double Trouble!

This episode was just so nostalgic, no?
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Old January 31st, 2009 (11:34 AM).
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Ahhhhhhhhhh I've been waiting for this episode forever!!! It did not disappoint.

*It was cute the way TR split up. Reminded me of the Freddy-always-goes-with-Daphne thing from Scooby Doo.
*Whoa, TR got high-tech! How do I get a key thing like that?
*How come we can't get a sweet car like that in the games? Can Rydel upgrade or something?
*"Who would do such a thing?" Really Ash? At this point in the game, I really think you should be able to figure it out. You have, like, five options anyway.
* The Double Trouble Song!!! When was the last time they put that in an ep, Training Daze?
*Oh my gosh! Do the writers...actually...watch old Pokemon episodes?? For once there was a legit REASON TR's mecha failed! And it referred to Season One! Yay!
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Old January 31st, 2009 (12:09 PM).
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Wah! Did you hear the TR theme (Double Trouble) when Team Rocket were rampaging in that Robot? Lol, that was really epic.
UWAH! I just love nostalgic episodes!!! *Pokes signature*
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Old January 31st, 2009 (12:16 PM).
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I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! D:
The new VAs suck!
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Old January 31st, 2009 (12:42 PM).
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A great episode, very nostalgic.
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Old January 31st, 2009 (01:46 PM).
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-Dawn's newest contest idea rocks
-Team Rocket must have some ****ed up metabolism... the rate they gain weight is crazy... and the rate they lose it?! Inhuman...
-Team Rocket's Rockin! Rockin Trouble Double Trouble...
-Dawn's obsession with poetry is futhur displayed
-Brock is as delusional as always
-Not a bad filler... it actually made me laugh
-I actually thought that Piplup might evolve but no dice...
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Old January 31st, 2009 (01:46 PM). Edited February 1st, 2009 by Jorah.
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It was a great episode all round and I was completly surprised by PUSA adding in Double Trouble, they should really use songs more often like the Japanese do!

- LOL WTF *both* Ash and Team Rocket? XD
- Heh, they actually sound fat. If that's possible?
- Flashback to chronicles
- Eww, zoom in on James's mouth
- poetry man!
- Croagunk's mirror thing!
- Wow, it's my avatar. Looks weird seeing him move
- Stupid Piplup, leave Team Rocket alone!
- More Transformers stuff
- DOUBLE TROUBLE OMG YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I tell you, I was *not* expecting that! C-O-O-L-N-E-S-S!
- Wait, they're just repeating the same bit over and over again...I don't think any song was used in Japanese, was it?
- Heh, yeah they did used to forget about electricity! Coolness!

Music kept: (12)

Kimi no Soba de (battle remix)
Team Rocket Forever
Ookido Hakase's Haiku Theme (mixed in with dub music o.O It's not a sound effect, PUSA!)
Kimi no Soba de (remix)
Team Rocket working out (couldn't really hear it, but the end sounded like it)
Team Rocket Theme (movie 6 remix)
When Team Rocket are working out the code
Putting the Pokeballs back in Carnivine's mouth
Piplup yells and gets everyone's attention
KANTO TEAM ROCKET MOTTO THEME
RBY Wild Pokemon Battle Theme
Happy Kanto theme

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I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! D:
The new VAs suck!
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Old January 31st, 2009 (01:49 PM). Edited January 31st, 2009 by Blue_Drifblim.
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Does this website go down or something every day? :/

Quote originally posted by Aura Guardian Zahra:
I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! D:
The new VAs suck!
That's going a little overboard, don't you think?

Actually, I thought PUSA did exceptionally well. TR's lines were just plain funny.

Jessie: "This hill must be angling straight up...*camera zoom out*"
James: "I don't want to be chunky!"
Meowth: "Ya know when you can't see south of the border somethin's wrong."

I could go on about nostalgia and all that, but everybody has already said everything. XD

As far as BGM, PUSA kept silence where needed, as they have been doing. They also used a good amout of original BGM, plus their own BGM which has improved. They even used Double Trouble! This is the first insert song in how long? That's pretty awesome... I hope it's a sign of things to come.

A+ for me.

P.S. "...I don't think any song was used in Japanese, was it?"

Bulbapedia says Team Rocket Forever and Maemuki Rocket Dan were used in the Japanese version.
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Old January 31st, 2009 (01:54 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Blue_Drifblim:
Does this website go down or something every day? :/
They even used Team Rocket Forever! This is the first insert song in how long? That's pretty awesome... I hope it's a sign of things to come.

A+ for me.
It used to go down a lot about a year ago, now it keeps going down again :/

DP018 in Ash's second battle against Roark, they used the DP rap when Turtwig was winning. It, er, wasn't really appriciated by fans though XD

Edit: Y'know what? I'm gonna email pokemon.com's mailbag and say I really liked them using Double Trouble. Although, they probably get staff to look around the bigger Pokemon forums once in a while to see what they think, I reckon, even if they don't take much notice. I suppose they got wind of the dislike of the DP opening way back XD I suppose it's nice for them to get good feedback even if they don't post it on their site.
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Old January 31st, 2009 (01:57 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Jorah:
It used to go down a lot about a year ago, now it keeps going down again :/

DP018 in Ash's second battle against Roark, they used the DP rap when Turtwig was winning. It, er, wasn't really appriciated by fans though XD
I completely forgot about that. XD

I should write them too. Good feedback might show that what they did worked. Who wouldn't want encouragement? XD
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Old January 31st, 2009 (02:41 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Blue_Drifblim:
I completely forgot about that. XD

I should write them too. Good feedback might show that what they did worked. Who wouldn't want encouragement? XD
The only email I can think of using to contact them is [email protected] I don't really know where else to email words of encourgement in XD

Here's what I wrote. I just wrote it rather informally because if I wrote this sort of stuff out better, I'm sure the person who reads it would think it was hilarious...It was the episode title that completly put me off...I actually put smilies in XD I think I should write a more formal one with a different email address though.

"Hi! I loved the fact that you used the song "Double Trouble" in the latest episode "A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine!" so much I just wanted to give you praise for it! You should use more songs in episodes, whether it be old ones, new ones or the Japanese ones! Also, thanks for keeping 13 pieces of original background music in this episode, it's quite a high amount (but could always be higher :P)."

I'm sure the person who reads it will have no idea what I'm going on about.
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Old January 31st, 2009 (02:42 PM).
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Oh my god! That was one of my favorite episodes, I'm not even done with it and its already so hilarious!
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Old January 31st, 2009 (02:52 PM).
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- No, Dawn, you don't deserve Piplup...
- But if you understood all that, maybe you do...
- A lesson on EV training by Prof. Oak, that Gliscor should be EV trained in...agility?
- "choke, choke, choke, choke, choke, choke, choke, choke!"
- THERE IT IS! ITS JORAH!
- Wow...extended Nurse Joy fantasy...
- Repository? Come on, Nurse Joy, what percentage of viewers will even know what that means?
- Oh, they wouldn't, would they?
- THEY DID! I LOVE THAT MOTTO! *cries in joy*
- That, dawn, was a decent motto for once.
- ITS A MECHA! I love old TR stuff...
- Breaking the fourth wall, there, Jessie?
- What music is THAT?
- They...didn't shock proof it? That's like an anti-cliche! But not a good one!


wow...too many capitals But this was a great nostalgic episode. My only qualm was that horrendous BGM at one point. I don't know if it was original or PUSA, but it sucked.

my rating..... 9.5/10


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Old January 31st, 2009 (02:55 PM).
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AWESOME...AWESOME...AWESOME...and it was great to know they hadn't forgotten about the school like other *points to ash and co.* JK...but it was great to hear the old school motto again, and the old TR background music was brilliant!!! after seeing this, I really do not want to see TR go from the anime at all...

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Old January 31st, 2009 (03:04 PM).
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First impression: WINNNNNN. They even used Double Trouble and the old motto, and tried to pull off a Pokemon Center thievery! This is the best episode yet (though I'm willing to bet I'll reconsider that when The Charge of Team Galactic airs).

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Old January 31st, 2009 (05:09 PM).
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Anyone wondering if Dogasu will pull a Kevin Meaney, and say that the use of "Double Trouble" is "just not right"? Heh.

Of course, it's a tad odd, given the voice change, and all. But I'd rather have that than PUSA re-doing the song. Why mess with a classic?

Still, propers for Jorah's suggestion about telling Pokemon.com and giving positive feedback for this. We have reason to complain on the show, extensively, but still, got to say whenever they do something right, right?
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Old January 31st, 2009 (06:04 PM).
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This episode was:
  • Funny
  • Messed Up
  • Freaky
  • Nostalgic
  • Epic Win
  • RoTfLmA0
  • wtfr
  • And way over the edge. Nobody could have seen this coming

This should be nominated for an Oscar of "Most Laws of Physics Broken".

10/10
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Old February 1st, 2009 (09:17 AM). Edited February 1st, 2009 by OokamiShipper.
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Quote originally posted by Aura Guardian Zahra:
I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! D:
The new VAs suck!
Wow, really nice way to put it, huh? I don't like the new voice actors too, but you shouldn't hate a whole episode because of that.

So... everyone agrees that it was nostalgic, rrriiiiight? Love nostalgic things, but don't you think that might mean...*shot before saying it*
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Old February 1st, 2009 (09:41 AM).
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You would think 10+ seasons of Brock getting his ear pulled, being dragged away or poison jabbed would cause him to tone down his love sickness at least a little.

I still think James is wasting his time with Team Rocket by doing field work when he could be in the lab coming up with cool gadgets. Granted some of them might explode, but that's half the fun of inventing.

Loved the use of Double Trouble in the background, the old motto & actually remembering what happened in the past.
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Old February 1st, 2009 (12:55 PM).
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wow...too many capitals But this was a great nostalgic episode. My only qualm was that horrendous BGM at one point. I don't know if it was original or PUSA, but it sucked.
XD

Do you remember what scene it was? I'm instersted to know because I didn't really find a piece I didn't like haha.
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Well, Team Rocket's back to their old ways. I think. I wasn't paying that much attention on Saturday...but I noticed some things:

Yeah, that hill was reaaally steep.
How come Dawn's always blaming herself?
Great, first they had no food, now they had too much. xD
Isn't that Jorah's avatar?
DOUBLE TROUBLE!!!
Okay, the whole Transformers thing is a bit much....

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but it was great to hear the old school motto again
Okay, I'm so used to ignoring their motto that I had no clue they said the old one. Do they change their motto in Japan at all?

Episode Rating: 7/10
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Old February 1st, 2009 (02:49 PM).
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DOUBLE TROUBLE!!!
Okay, the whole Transformers thing is a bit much....

Okay, I'm so used to ignoring their motto that I had no clue they said the old one. Do they change their motto in Japan at all?

Episode Rating: 7/10
You noticed, too XD Yep, it was
And I also thought it looked like Transformers XD
They changed the motto in Japan for this episode, too, back to the old one.
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eh...it was ok. My rating:

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Old February 1st, 2009 (03:07 PM).
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Well, Team Rocket's back to their old ways. I think. I wasn't paying that much attention on Saturday...but I noticed some things:

Yeah, that hill was reaaally steep. (1)
How come Dawn's always blaming herself?
Great, first they had no food, now they had too much. xD
Isn't that Jorah's avatar?
DOUBLE TROUBLE!!!
Okay, the whole Transformers thing is a bit much.... (2)


Okay, I'm so used to ignoring their motto that I had no clue they said the old one. Do they change their motto in Japan at all?

Episode Rating: 7/10
1. Yes, I know! Poor things, that musta been REALLY tiring, huh?

2. ... "Transformers, robots in disguise." Haha...*shot*
Never really occured to me that it was like Transformers until you mentioned it. But you're right, it was...much...

Oh, yeah! After all my posting here, I never posted my rating lemme do it now...
9/10
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