[Graphics] [Tutorial] How to change the Worldmap in R/S/E

[Mr.Silver]

This hack has helped me with my hack.Good job.

[IceGod64]

I am having an issue - I saved the palette from VBA, but can't import it into Tile Molester. .pal isn't in the compatible formats list, and naturally, using a different format wouldn't work.

Any help here? I'm using a wrong version, maybe?

[DawnRyder]

Yup, wrong version. Get TileMolester Alternate.

Download here:
http://www.romhacking.net/utils/%5B5...0Alternate.zip

[x_my_arsenel]

I can seem to import my tileset, however when I try to import my tilemap I don't get a message telling me it's moved and in-game it uses the old tilemap. I've tried heaps of different offsets and both 4bpp and 8bpp mode settings on NTME.

I've thought about using another tile map editor but I get the feeling it won't make a difference. Can anyone help?

[DawnRyder]

Originally Posted by x_my_arsenel

I can seem to import my tileset, however when I try to import my tilemap I don't get a message telling me it's moved and in-game it uses the old tilemap. I've tried heaps of different offsets and both 4bpp and 8bpp mode settings on NTME.

I've thought about using another tile map editor but I get the feeling it won't make a difference. Can anyone help?

Get PTC (Professional TileMap Creator).
It's probably in the Tools Thread.

[x_my_arsenel]

still no luck. I used PTC and the same thing happened. It didn't give me a ptr changed message when I wrote it to the ROM and still used the old tilemap in-game.
any other ideas?

Also I found out the if I import the tilemap first then it'll give me a ptr changed message but it won't for the tileset and neither the tileset or tilemap are used if it's done like that

[DarkMew1337]

Originally Posted by Vince_27

Hmm It's a very good tutorial but I need some help.
I have this map but I haven't the tilesets which goes with.
The map but no tileset of the map so I can't insert.
ps: It's for a Ruby hack.

what the~
Are you from switzerland?

[SiegHart]

hmmm so how far off would this tutorial be from working on a fire red rom, this is one of the better tuts ive seen for changing the map but, its not for fr/lg =[

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by SiegHart

hmmm so how far off would this tutorial be from working on a fire red rom, this is one of the better tuts ive seen for changing the map but, its not for fr/lg =[

Well, it's perfectly fine for use with FR/LG, only should you use different unLZ numbers, and set both TileMolester and NTME to 4BPP mode. (In TileMolester, use 4BPP Linear.) The rest is quite the same for all GBA games. However, I don't know which unLZ numbers you should use for FR/LG. But there's a thread in the Documents and Tutorials section. This one. (According to the thread, it's 191 for the tileset in FR, so that would make it 192 for the tilemap.)

Originally Posted by djtahu

I followed the tutorial and for some reason now the map just shows up as a black screen. Can anyone help me out?

A black screen? You mean, when you see the worldmap in-game (through Fly, Pokénav or on the wall in the PC), you get a completely black screen? Can you get back from the screen to regular gameplay? And does everything else still work?

Originally Posted by x_my_arsenel

still no luck. I used PTC and the same thing happened. It didn't give me a ptr changed message when I wrote it to the ROM and still used the old tilemap in-game.
any other ideas?

Also I found out the if I import the tilemap first then it'll give me a ptr changed message but it won't for the tileset and neither the tileset or tilemap are used if it's done like that

Well, I don't know what the problem might be, since that never happened to me, but what you could try, is to first import and repoint the tileset, then import the tilemap, BUT DON'T REPOINT. Just keep it at the offset where it was. In other words, don't change the Image Offset, and also don't check "Automatically Change Pointers". That could help, I guess.

[x_my_arsenel]

I managed to get it working! It was because I used a 256x64 resolution for my tileset but when I switched to 128x128 it worked perfectly! So the tilemap was loading the wrong tiles with the 256x64 tileset.
thanks for the amazing tutorial!:D

[560cool.]

I did it all and I didn't seem to have any problem !
]Thank You!

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by x_my_arsenel

I managed to get it working! It was because I used a 256x64 resolution for my tileset but when I switched to 128x128 it worked perfectly! So the tilemap was loading the wrong tiles with the 256x64 tileset.
thanks for the amazing tutorial!:D

Well, I'm glad you managed to get it working by yourself.

Originally Posted by 560cool

I did it all and I didn't seem to have any problem !
]Thank You!

You're welcome!

[SiegHart]

Originally Posted by Larsie13

Well, it's perfectly fine for use with FR/LG, only should you use different unLZ numbers, and set both TileMolester and NTME to 4BPP mode. (In TileMolester, use 4BPP Linear.) The rest is quite the same for all GBA games. However, I don't know which unLZ numbers you should use for FR/LG. But there's a thread in the Documents and Tutorials section. This one. (According to the thread, it's 191 for the tileset in FR, so that would make it 192 for the tilemap.)

okay thanks ima try this now then =D

[Aisu K.]

Alright, I'm pretty sure I followed your tutorial to a T. However...

This is what I wanted...


Aaaaand this is what I got...


Any idea what I messed up on? (Ruby ROM, btw.)

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by Aisu K.

Alright, I'm pretty sure I followed your tutorial to a T. However...

This is what I wanted...


Aaaaand this is what I got...


Any idea what I messed up on? (Ruby ROM, btw.)

Hmm, yeah. Easy one. NTME has to be in 8BPP mode. Though, now that I checked the first post, I see it's not in there. It's really important that you do that, so I'll edit the first post.
(But if you checked the images, you could see that I had NTME set to 8BPP mode.)

[SiegHart]

Originally Posted by Larsie13

Well, it's perfectly fine for use with FR/LG, only should you use different unLZ numbers, and set both TileMolester and NTME to 4BPP mode. (In TileMolester, use 4BPP Linear.) The rest is quite the same for all GBA games. However, I don't know which unLZ numbers you should use for FR/LG. But there's a thread in the Documents and Tutorials section. This one. (According to the thread, it's 191 for the tileset in FR, so that would make it 192 for the tilemap.)

omg after soo many tutorials i came back to yours just cuz i remembered you saying i could find a way to apply this to FR roms, and well your my new best friend, i realized the difference in your tutorial and every other tutorial i looked at was in your tutorial you go to a different number in unlz for the tilemap, but in other tutorials ppl were just loading the raw on the same number they loaded the tileset... i went exploring in the numbers after and i found what i thought was the tilemap possibly so i changed it as you said, then hex edited so it would link to my tilemap and sure enough it fixed it :D, now my only problem is the color is messed up and i dont know how im gonna fix that.... any ideas?

[OM3GA Umbr30n]

This helped me quit abit.
To SiegHart did u import the pallete?

[SiegHart]

Originally Posted by mazot2

This helped me quit abit.
To SiegHart did u import the pallete?

i think i may have forgotten to do that o.o, but isnt it risky doing that?

[OM3GA Umbr30n]

i dunno T_T
Just trying to help :D

EDIT: Did u remember to use the Worldmap.pal in Tilemolestor?
If yes try not using it

[OM3GA Umbr30n]

sad to hear it T_T
did u remember to import the pallete in tilemolestor?
im trying to help people :D

[Zero Karma Loss]

I've followed the tutorial twice and both times my world map has been glitched to hell and back. I think it may have to do with NTME utterly ruining the tilemap every time I've loaded it after saving- it looks like what happened to Aisu K's map, only vertical rather than horizontal. My tileset is 128 x 128 if it helps, and this is what the final result was in-game i34 dot tinypic dot c o m/wkhjrp.p n g (please excuse the broken info, I can't post a straight link yet)

Any idea what went wrong?

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by Zero Karma Loss

I've followed the tutorial twice and both times my world map has been glitched to hell and back. I think it may have to do with NTME utterly ruining the tilemap every time I've loaded it after saving- it looks like what happened to Aisu K's map, only vertical rather than horizontal. My tileset is 128 x 128 if it helps, and this is what the final result was in-game i34 dot tinypic dot c o m/wkhjrp.p n g (please excuse the broken info, I can't post a straight link yet)

Any idea what went wrong?

Hehe, good one. I can't say I know what went wrong just like that. Could you show me a screenshot from the tileset + tilemap as they are in NTME? If you say NTME might have caused it, it would help if I could see what you did with it.

[Zero Karma Loss]

Yeah I know, haha. I realized a couple of things over the last hour: I wasn't setting TMA to 8bpp linear after all, but the other 8bpp above it. That helped with the color once loaded, and the other thing I've noted is that at 8bpp NTME glitches, but at 4bpp NTME loads it just fine at 32x20.

Screencaps:
i36 dot tinypic dot c o m/14cur05.png
i38 dot tinypic dot c o m/24g2dlx.png
i34 dot tinypic dot c o m/2zsba77.png

Sorry for the size. Is it the way I've got the tileset set out maybe?

[Larsie13]

Hmm... If NTME loads the tilemap in 4BPP as it should when in 8BPP, then the conclusion I draw from that, is that you might have accidentally created the tilemap in 4BPP. Or, you might have given the tilemap the wrong dimensions. You might want to try loading the tileset, switch to 8BPP mode, and start making the tilemap again from scratch, after having set the "Preset Size" in the bottom right corner of the NTME window to "R/S WM".

["Уровень - скрипт"]

Wow! Let me try this one out...