[Graphics] [Tutorial] How to change the Worldmap in R/S/E

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by EvilBloodGnome

Bleh. Still not working. I'll keep at it, just wish I knew what the problem was <.<

I just watched the video again, and noticed you set the codec in TileMolester to 8bpp planar. It should be 8bpp linear.

Originally Posted by limeyman

Good tutorial it was great i will follow it when I can

But can you use this in your hacks here?

"This"? You mean the tutorial? If so, yes, that's what it's supposed to be used for.

[Johto_legend]

hey wat is the size of the grid u see during the game. you didnt give the actually size. like if the entire thing is 240x160 wat is the dimensions for inside the black box?

[mikocoon]

how to expand picture frame?

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by Johto_legend

hey wat is the size of the grid u see during the game. you didnt give the actually size. like if the entire thing is 240x160 wat is the dimensions for inside the black box?

You mean the area where there cursor can move in-game? That's 224*120. The leftmost and rightmost 8 pixels can't be accessed, and 24 pixels from the top and 16 from the bottom. Anything in between can be accessed by the cursor.

Originally Posted by mikocoon

how to expand picture frame?

What do you mean by picture frame?

[mikocoon]

in your tutorial you say this "NOTE: Before you save, make sure to expand the picture frame, so there's some room left next to the picture, and click there to deselect the image you just pasted" and i dont know how to expand it,so i need help

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by mikocoon

in your tutorial you say this "NOTE: Before you save, make sure to expand the picture frame, so there's some room left next to the picture, and click there to deselect the image you just pasted" and i dont know how to expand it,so i need help

You just drag the edge of the area with the image in it, like this:

Spoiler:

[Neutral12]

Uhh I tried doing this and things went completely wrong and I have no idea what I just did. I loaded my map on the ROM and it turned into this;



And what I want it to look like is this;




I think I did something wrong with the unLZ but i'm not exactly sure, so I came here for help.

[Mr.Silver]

Originally Posted by neutral12

Uhh I tried doing this and things went completely wrong and I have no idea what I just did. I loaded my map on the ROM and it turned into this;



And what I want it to look like is this;




I think I did something wrong with the unLZ but i'm not exactly sure, so I came here for help.

Lemme guess....you put the raw over the normal map?.....You put in the NEXT one after the map tiles.

[Neutral12]

Does this mean I have to start all over again?

[Mr.Silver]

Originally Posted by neutral12

Does this mean I have to start all over again?

As long as you have a backup, no you don't.But if you dont then yes you do...

[Neutral12]

I do have a backup, so I guess I will try again.

Edit: Ok now i'm just completely lost on what i'm doing...

Edit2: This time I realize I used planar instead of linear. So now I changed it to linear and it currently looks like this;




So now it's starting to look more like the town, but yea... It's absolutely screwed up still. So now what is wrong with it?

Edit3: Now I realize I had too many tiles and it wasn't 8bpp. So now when I go to upload the Sphere file I get this;

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by neutral12

Spoiler:

I do have a backup, so I guess I will try again.

Edit: Ok now i'm just completely lost on what i'm doing...

Edit2: This time I realize I used planar instead of linear. So now I changed it to linear and it currently looks like this;




So now it's starting to look more like the town, but yea... It's absolutely screwed up still. So now what is wrong with it?

Edit3: Now I realize I had too many tiles and it wasn't 8bpp. So now when I go to upload the Sphere file I get this;

Hmm, that's a bug in NTME. I don't know what could cause such a thing, so I think you should contact NTME's creator, D-Trogh, either via PM or VM, or here.
(Though I'm not sure if he'll respond; he hasn't been online this year.) I'm afraid I can't help you with this.

EDIT: 150 posts.

[Neutral12]

Is there any kind of alternative to making the Tilemap?

Edit: This time I decided to make the Tilemap myself (literally hand drawn on NTME).


(Don't worry I noticed that patch of green in the bottom right corner, it was made into water after the screenshot)

Yet, I get another error. However this time it is closer to looking like a map;



Edit2: Ok now something really weird just happened. I checked my map in the emulator again and now it just changed pattern...

[Chaos Rush]

Originally Posted by neutral12

stuff

Make sure under "Preset Sizes" select, "Emerald WM".

[Neutral12]

Ok so now it works, but NOW I'm having size issues (Basically i can't reach all my cities within the limits. Now I want to know the following;

How big should my map be?
How do I know where the GBAs limit is on my image?

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by neutral12

Ok so now it works, but NOW I'm having size issues (Basically i can't reach all my cities within the limits. Now I want to know the following;

How big should my map be?
How do I know where the GBA's limit is on my image?

Your map should be 240x160 pixels, usually, because that's the GBA's screen's size. Except if there's land at the bottom or right, then you should increase the size a little for the map to not have sea after the edge if you zoom in in the PokéNav. Either make an edge, or let the land continue for 24 pixels to the right, and 8 down. (It can suddenly end, it doesn't matter, because anything bigger than 264x168 will not be seen on screen, ever.)

If you want to know what area the cursor can get to, check the first post. It's the second image in the first spoiler.

And no, there's no other way to make the map than to use a tilemap.

[Neutral12]

I finally got it working! Thanks for all the help.

[shiny quagsire]

Ok, I completly followed the tutorial, and something went wrong. It's a complete jumble. It looked similar to neutral12's thing. It changes and it's messed up.

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by shiny quagsire

Ok, I completly followed the tutorial, and something went wrong. It's a complete jumble. It looked similar to neutral12's thing. It changes and it's messed up.

Well, I can't tell exactly what the problem is without any more info. Did you use Chaos Rush's tip? (It's five posts up.) If you did, and it still doesn't work as it should, post again with some more info, preferably a screenshot or something.

[shiny quagsire]

Yes, I did, only for the ruby worldmap. I think it might be that it isnt repointing after I fixed the tilemap. (I had it 1 tile too wide).

EDIT:
I opened my backup, and reinserted the tilemap and tileset. Still has problems. I also used the same pointers you used.

[Larsie13]

Could you show me a screenshot of NTME, TileMolester and VBA? Makes it easier for me to identify the problem.

[shiny quagsire]

Your map should be 240x160 pixels, usually, because that's the GBA's screen's size. Except if there's land at the bottom or right, then you should increase the size a little for the map to not have sea after the edge if you zoom in in the PokéNav. Either make an edge, or let the land continue for 24 pixels to the right, and 8 down. (It can suddenly end, it doesn't matter, because anything bigger than 264x168 will not be seen on screen, ever.)

I didn't do that so maybe that the problem.

Anyways, I decided to use Firered for my hack. I guess it's just more easier to use for me. Sorry for your trouble.

[Potatoman1287]

Could someone explain to me the offsets? I don't exactly understand what offset I'm supposed to be putting in to get the two 'Ptr change' messages. I've only gotten one and sometimes no messages when I rewrite.

[Larsie13]

Originally Posted by Potatoman1287

Could someone explain to me the offsets? I don't exactly understand what offset I'm supposed to be putting in to get the two 'Ptr change' messages. I've only gotten one and sometimes no messages when I rewrite.

If you don't know what offset to choose, there's a tool just for that purpose. Go to HackMew's Toolbox and download Free Space Finder (FSF).
Be sure to select "search from offset" and type 800000 in the box in Ruby or Sapphire, or E00000 if you're using Emerald.

[Potatoman1287]

Alright. When I wrote over the rom, I now saw the two messages each time. Only problem is the game can't run anymore. VBA is popping up with with an error saying it can't read the image. I'm assuming I wrote over the wrong image or something. I can't really tell what the world map image is supposed to look like. I jumped to 245 (I am using Emerald) and shifted up and down about 20 but nothing looks remotely like the worldmap or bearing any hint to one. Can you screenshot what sort of image I'm supposed to look for?

Edit: Now it's inserted but the colors are off. The colors should be like your map's colors. i196 (dot) photobucket (dot) com/albums/aa58/darkpidgeot/mapdiscolor (dot) png