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Old August 15th, 2010 (04:03 AM).
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Old August 15th, 2010 (03:42 PM).
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Heres a tile project i was doing, well the path i copied, but i should devamp paths to.
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Also do a devamp using gsc colors? prolbally wont be the same but eh just a extra idea
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Old August 27th, 2010 (10:29 PM). Edited August 28th, 2010 by Chaos Rush.
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I'm just wondering, but why does everybody think that the graphics of R/S/E are really bad? IMO, they look just fine.

I'm asking because:
*A lot of people have said that they hack FireRed purely because of graphics
*There's a lot of R/S/E hacks that change the OWs to FR/LG ones (I'm guilty of that lol)
*There is not a single FR/LG hack that changes the OWs to R/S/E ones, even though the opposite occurs pretty often

IMO, R/S/E has more realistic graphics. In FR/LG, everything looks cartoony, while in R/S/E, everything seemed more "serious".
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Old August 27th, 2010 (10:40 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Chaos Rush:
I'm just wondering, but why does everybody think that the graphics of R/S/E are really bad? IMO, they look just fine.

I'm asking because:
*A lot of people have said that they hack FireRed purely because of graphics
*There's a lot of R/S/E hacks that change the OWs to FR/LG ones (I'm guilty of that lol)

IMO, R/S/E has more realistic graphics. In FR/LG, everything looks cartoony, while in R/S/E, everything seemed more "serious".
Depends on what you mean by "graphics". I like a lot of the tiles, like the houses and the paths. However, I can't stand the trees in both Ruby/Sapphire and Emerald and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

As for sprites, I think that you already mentioned the issue. FR/LG sprites look more cartoony and thus are more appealing. I personally think that they're softer on the eyes and more enjoyable to look at.

Also, in response to "a lot of people have said that they hack FireRed purely because of graphics", I'll give you my typical response: the graphics can be hacked adequately and equally in both FR/LG and R/S/E. You could hack one to look virtually identical to the other. However, if one is closer to the hacker's desired style, then they're more likely to choose that one since it would require less work. And seeing how FR/LG are more generally appealing (to me, at least), more people are going to hack those games. It's just easier and to a lot of "hackers," that's what matters most.
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Old August 28th, 2010 (09:21 AM).
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Depends on what you mean by "graphics". I like a lot of the tiles, like the houses and the paths. However, I can't stand the trees in both Ruby/Sapphire and Emerald and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

As for sprites, I think that you already mentioned the issue. FR/LG sprites look more cartoony and thus are more appealing. I personally think that they're softer on the eyes and more enjoyable to look at.

Also, in response to "a lot of people have said that they hack FireRed purely because of graphics", I'll give you my typical response: the graphics can be hacked adequately and equally in both FR/LG and R/S/E. You could hack one to look virtually identical to the other. However, if one is closer to the hacker's desired style, then they're more likely to choose that one since it would require less work. And seeing how FR/LG are more generally appealing (to me, at least), more people are going to hack those games. It's just easier and to a lot of "hackers," that's what matters most.
What I meant by "cartoony" is the tiles, OWs, not battles. In fact, I like the FR/LG battle sprites better actually, but I was talking about the overworld.

Also I think it's interesting how a lot of R/S/E hacks change the OWs to FR/LG ones, while there isn't a single FR/LG hack that changes that OWs to R/S/E ones.
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Quote originally posted by Chaos Rush:
Also I think it's interesting how a lot of R/S/E hacks change the OWs to FR/LG ones, while there isn't a single FR/LG hack that changes that OWs to R/S/E ones.
Well..if people want to change the R/S/E overworlds to FR/LG ones, in which case, it means that they don't want to keep the R/S/E overworlds, because they're comparatively less appealing to the eye, then why would anyone want to change the FR/LG overworlds to R/S/E?
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Old August 28th, 2010 (07:13 PM).
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because they're comparatively less appealing to the eye,
That's a matter of opinion.

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then why would anyone want to change the FR/LG overworlds to R/S/E?
I was wondering why people think the cartoony FR/LG overworlds look better than the R/S/E ones.
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Quote originally posted by Chaos Rush:
What I meant by "cartoony" is the tiles, OWs, not battles. In fact, I like the FR/LG battle sprites better actually, but I was talking about the overworld.
Haha, that's what I meant, too. I was talking about OWs.

Quote originally posted by Chaos Rush:
Also I think it's interesting how a lot of R/S/E hacks change the OWs to FR/LG ones, while there isn't a single FR/LG hack that changes that OWs to R/S/E ones.
Hm, that is a very interesting observation. And if correlation implies causation, then I guess it supports my theory that FR/LG-styled sprites are more appealing. Though if it's any consolation, I'm not planning on changing the OWs in my Emerald hack to FR/LG-styled ones. :)
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Cool new forum. Would things like Gary's Pikachu hack thing belong there?

Anyway, I'm sure it'll empty up PH and HS a little, eh?
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Old September 4th, 2010 (04:33 AM).
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Cool new forum. Would things like Gary's Pikachu hack thing belong there?

Anyway, I'm sure it'll empty up PH and HS a little, eh?
No, Gary's Pikachu hack is a super-serious hack of awesome!!!!!!!!1111111 what are you talking about!!!!!!!!!111111111

and no, it won't nobody reads these days. D:
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Old September 4th, 2010 (05:05 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Ninja Caterpie:
No, Gary's Pikachu hack is a super-serious hack of awesome!!!!!!!!1111111 what are you talking about!!!!!!!!!111111111

and no, it won't nobody reads these days. D:
o sos i forgot i though the secion was 4 supa sik hacks!!!! ;)

You're probably right, but, eh.

What about X versions of hacks (made by people that aren't the original authors, but have permission)?
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Hey, did anyone ever work out a Take Pokemon script?
I don't think I saw the end of that one.
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Old September 13th, 2010 (06:28 AM).
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Hey, did anyone ever work out a Take Pokemon script?
I don't think I saw the end of that one.
Metapod did it (I guess xD) in his AshGrey hack.
Since you sometimes lose your pokemon.
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I've got a question. I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask this, but I couldn't find a better place.

Say I want to start a new hack right now. Which Rom Base do you prefer?

I personally would say Emerald - Battle Frontier, animated sprites, more advanced double battling style..

What's your advise? Is it for example better for me to start with hacking Fire Red?
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Quote originally posted by Surf:
Hey, did anyone ever work out a Take Pokemon script?
I don't think I saw the end of that one.
HackMew wrote an ASM routine that deals with it.
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Quote originally posted by Oxnite:
I've got a question. I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask this, but I couldn't find a better place.

Say I want to start a new hack right now. Which Rom Base do you prefer?

I personally would say Emerald - Battle Frontier, animated sprites, more advanced double battling style..

What's your advise? Is it for example better for me to start with hacking Fire Red?
I've worked with most except for Emerald and I've come to conclusion that they all have their ups and downs. You might want to experiment with all of them until you find one that suites you best; and you're more accustomed to. I can't say that it's best you start out with Firered. It's just a matter of opinion. If you want to go with Emerald, then go for it. ;D
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I've worked with most except for Emerald and I've come to conclusion that they all have their ups and downs. You might want to experiment with all of them until you find one that suites you best; and you're more accustomed to. I can't say that it's best you start out with Firered. It's just a matter of opinion. If you want to go with Emerald, then go for it. ;D
Alright, sounds like some good advise!

I think I'll try Emerald in that case; I love the way the 'two-side / two-way' Double Battles work. I like the moving sprites as well, it gives the game a nice touch.

Does somebody have concrete differences or difficulties between hacking Emerald and FireRed?
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Would you play a hack that has miniscule mapping and no scripting done to it?
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Would you play a hack that has miniscule mapping and no scripting done to it?
Probably not.
If you're just starting out then just mess about with tools for a while until you get the hang of it, then move one up and start learning to script with XSE, then try messing about with a hex editor, then ASM and stuff, but never, NEVER, rush into a hack. I've seen so many people do this and it always ended up bad. There are tutorials in the appropriate section for starting out.
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Quote originally posted by altariaking:


Probably not.
If you're just starting out then just mess about with tools for a while until you get the hang of it, then move one up and start learning to script with XSE, then try messing about with a hex editor, then ASM and stuff, but never, NEVER, rush into a hack. I've seen so many people do this and it always ended up bad. There are tutorials in the appropriate section for starting out.
I'd pretty much agree with that. Though for a first hack, you might want to do a "mini-project" kinda thing with the new Sub forum. I mean since it's there you might as well use it for something small. Back on topic, I wouldn't rush a hack, it's just lame and people make look down on you if your hack's full of errors. So my answer would be no, I wouldn't play a hack without scripts and minuscule mapping. It's just not worth the time. On the other hand I don't even play other people's hacks (I've only played shiny gold D: )
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Well, branching off of this, What if I was to make a mini-hack, kinda like a tech demo? A shortened version of a game?
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Well, branching off of this, What if I was to make a mini-hack, kinda like a tech demo? A shortened version of a game?
I guess I'd depend on what the mini hack was about, if it was just minor text edits and maps, with a poor story/purpose, then no. I'd guess it'd have to be a good idea for someone to actually play. What do you have in mind?
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I guess I'd depend on what the mini hack was about, if it was just minor text edits and maps, with a poor story/purpose, then no. I'd guess it'd have to be a good idea for someone to actually play. What do you have in mind?
Like some basic scripts, a set of new maps, maybe a gym leader, some easter eggs, whatnot. Not a minor edit, but new maps and all. A miniature version of a full hack. It would take a few hours to play, and there would be hidden extras.
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Old September 14th, 2010 (03:48 AM).
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Like some basic scripts, a set of new maps, maybe a gym leader, some easter eggs, whatnot. Not a minor edit, but new maps and all. A miniature version of a full hack. It would take a few hours to play, and there would be hidden extras.
Basic scripts? As in simple talking or is there more?

I might play it if the playability of the maps and the hidden extras make up for the scripting. Though you should take the extra effort to actually learn more about scripting, before attempting this.
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Old September 14th, 2010 (04:08 AM).
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Hey, that seems almost so perfect, it's like advertising for the Sideshow Showcase!

It sounds nice though; all the stuff in the Showcase ATM is just "Fire Red +", "Platinum v3.14", "Revamped Red", etc.
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