|Fourth Generation Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum kicked off the fourth generation of Pokémon. Two years later, fans of the Johto region were treated to a remastered adventure in HeartGold & SoulSilver. Discuss the games, explore the features, share your experiences, and help other players out!|
July 23rd, 2009 (4:39 PM). Edited March 10th, 2010 by bobandbill.
So, this is pretty much a requirement since so many of the same questions keep seeping in - and they're the same questions every single time. Time to address the frequent ones - new ones added whenever someone feels like it. If you think a question is frequent enough and isn't covered here, contact either the mods of this forum, bobandbill and Hirro, or me, the thread creator.
Guides shall be added soon for more specific things, and in-depth analysis. First post is for general questions. Try the Control+Find feature (Ctrl + F for Windows) to quickly find the question you are looking for if it is covered in here thus far.
General questions/storyline problems (This post)
General Known Info (2nd post)
PokeWalker Guide by yaminokame (3rd post)
What are HeartGold/SoulSilver?
When are these games coming out?
Are the games only for the DSi?
Will these games work on my DS if I import?
Will I be able to go to Kanto in these games? What about Hoenn and Sinnoh?
Can I trade with D/P/Pt? If so, when?
My game keeps crashing.
Storyline Help - How to Beat the Game
What did Prof. Elm tell me to do in the beginning of the game?
How can I battle the Violet City Gym Leader? I'm not allowed inside the gym!
I beat the gym leader, but the guy south of Violet City stops me from passing!
How do I get past the guy and the Cut Tree in Ilex Forest?
I can't get into the Goldenrod (3rd) gym!
Goldenrod's gym leader won't give me the badge when I beat her!
I'm north of Goldenrod and the National Park and I can't get past a dancing tree!
I cannot get into the Ecruteak (4th) gym!
Where's HM Strength?
I can't get to the Gym in Olivine City! (The port city)
What do I do in Mahogany Town/Get past the man to the east of it?
I can't get through Ice Path because a man is stopping me!
A person is stopping me get past the first floor in Radio Tower!
Once you beat the fake Director on the 5th floor, go back to the Underground and use the Key you got on a locked door there. Battle your way through, beat the switch puzzle (pay attention to the colours of the floor and switches - easy way = middle, right, left), and talk to the real Director who will give you a Swipe Card Key item. Go back to the top of the Radio Tower, using the Swipe Card on the 3rd floor to access the rest. The rest is straightforward.
A Kimono girl is blocking my way in Ice Path at the end!
The 8th Gym Leader Clair (Blackthorn City's) won't give me a badge when I beat her!
I don't know where to go after getting all the gym badges/I can't surf east of New Bark Town!
Then, if you are playing HeartGold, go to the building north of Ecruteak and talk to the Elder to make him move to the side. Go past and outside and into the Tin Tower. Go to the top by navigating your way through the puzzle, and once there, talk tot he Kimon girl to call down Ho-oh. Battle/Capture it (the latter is highly recommended =P).
If you are playing SoulSilver, go to the Whirl Islands (bring surfing Pokemon and something which knows Whirlpool. Flash is also recommended - the elder in Spout Tower gives that to you). Go inside the north-eastern island. Take the top route and go down the ladder, then head south-west towards another ladder. Follow the way until you see an old man/sage and talk to him, then walk past him down and into the cave. Talk to the Kimono girls to activate Lugia. Battle/Capture it (the latter is highly recommended =P)..
After that, you can go back to New Bark Town. Surf East to start heading towards Indigo Plateau and the Elite Four.
What HMs do you need to reach the Elite Four?
I can't beat the Elite Four!
Also examine your team - a well-varied team will help more, especially ones with decent movesets. Also, Ice moves help in particular for the last battle.
What do I do after beating the Elite Four?
I'm on the ship to Kanto, and I can't get off the ship! Help!
Any other time, to arrive, simply sleep in your bed (yoru room is to the right and south side of the main level).
There's a Snorlax blocking my way/I can't get to the west side of Kanto!/I can't get into Cerulean Gym!
Then take it back to the Power Plant and give it to the...chubby man there. Power will be running now. Go to Lavender Town and into the Radio Tower and talk to the Director there who will expand your radio in the Pokegear. Go to the Snorlax and go to the radio. You will have to manually move the frequency to the very top, and a touch to the left ot access a different radio channel - the Pokeflute should start playing once you find it. Then talk to Snorlax which will wake up and battle you.
To activate Cerulean gym after this, go north of Cerulean into Route 24/25 and battle your way to the end - she will be standing on the cape. Talk to her and she will go back to her gym.
Alternatively, to get to the Eastern Part of Kanto, fly to Victory Road Gate and head east to Viridian, or surf south and west of Fuchsia City.
How do I open Viridian's Gym?
Where is Cinnabar/Blaine's gym?
How do I get to Mt Silver/West of Victory Road to battle Red?
To re-battle him, first battle Lance and Clair in a double battle with your Rival by talking to him in Dragon's Den, and then beat the Elite Four's new teams to re-activate him again.
How do I control the pieces for the Ruins of Alph puzzles?
What are Apricorns good for?
How do I get Apricorns?
Where is the Itemfinder?
How do I get Headbutt?
How do I grow berries and get them?
Your in-game mother will frequently buy you berries, which you can pick up from the delivery man in any Pokemon Mart - the type-reducing-damage berries. Also the man by Violet City's Pokemon Centre gives you some (such as Oran berries, Lum, other early ones), and the man by Fuchsia's Pal Park (the old Safari Zone) will give you others (such as the PokeBlock/Poffin berries, and the EV-reducing berries).
What's with Miltank Farm?
How do I get PokeSeals?
How do I get to the Safari Zone?
How do I customise the Safari Zone?
Once you catch a Sandshrew there and show it to him, the next day he will call again to tell you you can now place objects (like trees, statues, etc) to the Park. Different items will attract different Pokemon.
Where's the Pokethlon? And what is it?
Are there any Contests in these games?
Is there a Pal Park/what happened to Kanto's Safari Zone?
Can I find Hoenn/Sinnoh Pokemon in these games?
How do I get the Magnet Train to work?
How do I get the Kanto/Hoenn starters?
How do I get the GB Player to play old GSC tunes?
Are the day people from GSC back?
Can I rebattle Gym Leaders?
Is there a Battle Frontier?
Are the GTS and WiFi minigames back?
When Pokemon follow you, does the fact that they are shiny or not show up?
What are the best places/Pokemon to EV train on?
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October 9th, 2009 (7:52 PM). Edited March 5th, 2010 by bobandbill.
This post here contains all official info thus far released on HG/SS - it's a general summery of the features with pictures a-plenty, as well as an archive of information released in the lead up to the games, including Coro Coro scans and video links. Pictures and video links are all over the place, but a full list of those are at the bottom. Hopefully it may answer some questions you may have as well on the games.
The games themselves - general info
Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver (HG/SS, or the 'GS remakes') are the newest games to be released for the DS, as part of the main handheld series. HeartGold features the legendary Pokemon Ho-oh, while SoulSilver has Lugia - both Pokemon are obtainable in each game (neither are version exclusives). They are remakes of the games Pokemon Gold and Silver, and were originally and officially confirmed here.
It has thus far come out in Japan, since September 12th, 2009 and is to be released in America MARCH 14TH 2010 Australia and New Zealand gets it MARCH 25TH 2010, and Europe gets it MARCH 26TH 2010.
Logos and official Japanese boxart:
You choose from the three Johto starter Pokemon Chikorita, Totodile and Cyndaquil, while the main legendary Pokemon are Ho-oh and Lugia. With the latter, you can actually obtain both within either game, only one at a later stage of gameplay, and at a higher level. Pictures of them below:
You can choose to play as the male protagonist known as 'Gold' from GSC, or the female protagonist, 'Kotone'. Other revealed character art include Professor Elm, Silver (the rival), and a Team Rocket grunt. These characters return from GSC, apart from the girl protagonist who is brand new. (No Kris from Crystal). The new girl apparently will play a role similar to Dawn/Lucas in D/P/Pt, or Brendan/May in R/S/E - a supportive role in the game (assuming you choose to play as Gold - otherwise the roles are reversed).
It is known that Pokemon can follow you around, akin to Pokemon Yellow where the Pikachu follows you around. However, it is confirmed that all 493 Pokemon can follow you, including legendary Pokemon. You can also get items from them that they pick up, just like in D/P/Pt. Talking to the Pokemon also allows you to see them give an expression (via a face in a speech-bubble) which shows you how they are feeling (basically a new 'happiness' check). You can find items as well to dress up your Pokemon with in pictures, and depending on the nature of your Pokemon and the Route you talk to them in, you may find a 'Shining Leaf', an item which appears in their status screen. Collect 5 for one Pokemon and show them to your psudo-rival, and you'll get a star on your Trainer Card and a certificate.
A video and screenshots of this:
The touch-screen is now more interactive than ever - the Pokegear can be operated from there, and the bag, Pokedex and even PC boxes can be managed all through the touch-screen. As such operating these will become easier and more organised. Old functions such as the Map, Phone and Radio return, and a running toggle-button has been added to the menu, serving as the way to activate the Running Shoes, and allows for two Key Items to be 'registered'.
The Radio now serves a greater purpose - on Wednesdays a 'Hoenn Channel' program plays - listening to this will cause Hoenn Pokemon to appear in the wild, while on Thursdays a Sinnoh Show plays which brings about certain 4th gen Pokemon in the wild, depending on the location. The tune that plays in the Ruins of Alph increases the likihood of Unown not yet obtained appearing, and Prof. Oaks talk show informs you of Swarm Pokemon and where they are.
Furthermore, the touch screen and stylus will be used to play up to 9 minigames within a special building/s, which rely on 'skills' - Speed, Stamina, Power, Technique, and Jump - these stats generally differ from Pokemon species to Pokemon specices, but can can be increased by giving a Pokemon juice made from Apricorns.
You compete with 3 Pokemon - some games with one at a time, others with all 3 at once. It runs on a points-based system, and points gained can be used to buy items, such as Apricorns, Healing items and Evolution Stones.
Minigames are as follows:
The game takes place in the region of Johto. It is confirmed that you can go to Kanto in the game (what it looks like is so far unknown however), and Johto retains the same places as before, such as New Bark Town, Slowpoke Well, Goldenrod City. There are some changes to it however (for instance, there appears to be a river flowing in the route/s below Blackthorn City). There are new areas as well (such as the Pokethlon west of the National Park, the Safari Zone and related routes west of Cianwood, Goldenrod's GTS, etc), and Kanto is upsized from GSC.
Eusine is back, presumably with the Crystal storyline involving Suicune. You chase Suicune around into Kanto, encountering it in various places before battling it at level 40 by Bill's house.
Apricorns are back, and can be made by Kurt (who also returns - see art) into the old GSC balls. One can be picked a day from an Apricorn tree and can be held in an Apricorn Case. Furthermore, Apricorns now have another use! They can be made into a drink that affects Pokethlon stats. There are more Apricorn Trees in HG/SS as well compared to GSC - the Psn Cure Berry tree next to Mr Pokemon's house in GSC for instance is now an Apricorn tree.
The new area west of Cianwood has been confirmed to be a Safari Zone, which upon completing challenges becomes customisable with areas you can visit. Different sections yield different Pokemon, and upon beating later challenges you can decorate sections which bring about even more Pokemon. There is no walk limit in this Safari Zone as well. The old Safari Zone in Kanto becomes a Pal Park, which notable has no 6-Pokemon-a-day limit, unlike D/P/Pt.
The bug-catching competition returns in HG/SS at the National Park and occurs every Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday. Pokemon initially remain the same as they were in GSC, and the system is the same - you get 20 Park Balls and have 20 minutes to catch a Bug Pokemon for judging, with only one Pokemon allowed to help weaken Pokemon, and no items allowed. You can catch more than one, but are only allowed to keep one, so choosing wisely to replace the current one you caught or not is important to improve your chances at winning. Pokemon are judged on level, rarity and stats.
Prizes include evolution stones for 1st prize, Everstone for 2nd and a Sitrus Berry for third, while missing out on the top three yields a Shed Shell. Once obtaining the National Dex, you can catch 3rd and 4th gen Pokemon on Thursdays and Saturdays of the competition.
The Battle Tower in Crystal has been replaced with Platinum's Battle Frontier, to keep compadibility with Platinum. All Platinum faculities return here, with BPs being able to be used to buy prizes, or teach move tutor moves to Pokemon.
Pokemon Trainer Red reappears in HG/SS with a stronger team, notably with his Pikachu leading his team at level 88. He can be found at Mt Silver after beating all gym leaders, and will rebattle you each time you beat the Elite Four.
There are a number of rare legendary Pokemon/one-off Pokemon to obtain. The Red Gyarados from GSC returns at level 30, and Lugia in SS and Ho-oh in HG appear at level 45 respectively (they are at level 70 in the game they are not based in e.g. Lugia in HG). It is known that after beating the Elite Four, you can find Groudon in SS, and Kyorge in HG. Once you obtain both of them in the one game (via catching/transferring), you can also get Rayquaza. All are found in a cave/their own caves, and are at level 50.
Other Pokemon include:
Your mother can save money for you, as she did in GSC. She will also buy items for you, usually berries but at times items like Moon Stones and Choice Items. You can collect them from a deliveryman from any PokeMart.
The Magnet Train and the SS Anne also return, allowing players to go to Kanto from Johto, and vice versa.
The Global Terminal (akin to the one in Platinum) returns, situated in Goldenrod City.
Wifi minigames like the ones in Platinum are back.
Instead of Honey trees, the ability to Headbutt Trees via the move Headbutt has returned from GSC. A person in Ilex Forest acts as a reusable move tutor of the move. 3rd and 4th gen Pokemon can be found once one headbutts trees in Johto accessible via Rock Slide, or in Kanto.
An item called the GB Player appears in HG/SS which allows you to play the old tunes from GSC instead of the new HG/SS music. It is obtainable in Celedon City in the Mansion by talking to the NPC by the globe once beating all of the gym leaders.
You can rebattle Gym Leaders by obtaining their phone numbers if you find them in specific locations at specific times, and calling them at specific times. You then meet them at the Fighting Dojo in Saffron City, where they have a boosted team (min levels around the 50 range), and may have 3rd and/or 4th gen Pokemon in their team as well. The Elite Four and Champion Lance also gets a revamp when you rebattle them.
Sold with the game is a device called the PokéWalker. You are able to trade one Pokemon from HG/SS onto the Pokewalker. The device works as a pedometer; when you walk about, your Pokémon will slowly raise level and happiness, as well as 'Watts' which allows you to battle wild Pokemon on the PokeWalker, and find items which can be traded onto HG/SS. Transferring is apparently easy.
There are 'courses' that you can take your Pokemon on within the PokeWalker - each has specific Pokemon within them. It appears at least two are available to use, and one unlock-able via trading a Jirachi event to it, unlocking the course 'Edge of the Night Sky'. There are other courses as well - another is unlockable by a event in Japan which unlocks the 'Pikachu's forest'
Info-page with pictures here:
Pre-order bonus - figurines!
If you pre-order HeartGold from Japan, you get a Ho-oh figurine - if you pre-order SoulSilver, it's a Lugia figurine - and if you pre-order both, you get both of them, as well as an Arceus figurine. Pre-orders for it start on July the 4th.
Pictures of the three figurines:
A number of events have been confirmed for HG/SS. Click here to see a video on the Notched-Ear Pichu and Arceus events.
- If you send over the Pikachu Coloured Pichu (PCP) obtained from the special 12th movie event (given away from June 19th to July 18th), you unlock an event in Ilex forest by Celebi's Shrine, which cause the Notched-Ear Pichu (NEP) to appear. It knows Volt Tackle, Helping Hand, Swagger & Pain Split. An old man appears afterward NEP does - presumably he tells you something about the Pichu.
- Trading over the Arceus movie event to HG/SS and taking it to the Ruins of Alph and talking to an NPC, can unlock an event and a small, new area (currently 'called' the 'Shinto Ruins' - name may change in translations) involving it and Cynthia, which will also allow you to catch a Dialga, Palkia or Giratina (who choose which one) at level one. They know Metal Burst, Hydro Pump, and Shadow Sneak respectively.
- Trading over a special event Jirachi (that is to be given out in Japan via WiFi/McDonalds with the moves Rest, Confusion, Wish and Draco Meteor, level 5 with a Leichi Berry) to HG/SS will unlock a new area related to the PokeWalker. (Apparently called 'Edge of the Night Sky').
Other pictures, official artwork and videos:
Credit to serebii.net, pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss, http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ipkj/index.html, Coro Coro, Pokemon Sunday, slowkingsley and various other places for the sources of the info, videos and pictures.
Also credit to >Feelings< and Pokemon League Champion for providing many of the updated picture urls.
March 5th, 2010 (2:54 PM).
Repost of the PokeWalker guide, rearranging posts and all for the soon-to-occur English release of the games.
The following is a guide on how to use the Pokewalker, written by yaminokame.
For a list of Pokemon, Items, etc obtainable in the PokeWalker Courses, check here: http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pokewalker-area.shtml
Accessing the PokeWalker Connection Screen: When you turn on your game (after you have played it long enough to have a save file) you will be brought to the start-up screen which has a lot of options. The option for the PokeWalker Connection Screen is among these. Here is a list of the options:
There is no way to loose your Pokemon while it is in the PokeWalker. Running out of batteries will simply make you loose steps and Watts. Your Pokemon will be safe. If you are to loose your PokeWalker, then you can restore your Pokemon back into your games. As a note, if you happen to find your PokeWalker after you have restored your Pokemon, you can not send the other one inside of the PokeWalker back to the game (essentially cloning). To get your Pokemon back if ever your PokeWalker breaks/gets lost, go the the PokeWalker Connection Screen and press & hold:
Once you do this, your PokeWalker will be reset and your Pokemon will go back into your box. Your Pokemon will be restored to as it originally was when you put it in the PokeWalker. If you do find your PokeWalker after you have restored your Pokemon, you need to reset the PokeWalker.
To set a PokeWalker back to it's original settings, go to the PokeWalker Connection Screen and press & hold:
Once you have done this, either a new PokeWalker, or an old one that you reset will be able to be synced with the game as you did when you first set it up.
Once a Pokemon is in the PokeWalker, you will have two important choices that you can choose from on the PokeWalker Connection Screen (on the DS). These are:
Sometimes when on a course with no Pokemon in the PokeWalker, a wild Pokemon will automatically take the role as your lead Pokemon. When this happens, you will not be able to put a Pokemon from your box into the PokeWalker until you take out the wild one that joined you. The way to do this is as follows:
Other important information:
Note 1: Keep in mind that sometimes even though one of the speech balloons show up doesn't always mean that they will be holding Watts or an item.
For a list of Pokemon, Items, etc obtainable in the PokeWalker Courses, check here: http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pokewalker-area.shtml