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Old October 2nd, 2009 (02:22 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Painter:
i want to try out a MixMence but i want to be original so how does this look
Salamence @ Life Orb
Naive / Rash
4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Speed
Earthquake / Roost / Outrage
Fire Blast / Flamethrower
Brick Break / Earthquake
Draco Meteor
any help guys
Fixed. Earthquake hits Heatran, etc and gives you unresisted coverage with Draco Meteor and Fire Blast. Roost is pretty cool to heal SR, LO recoil, SS, etc damage away, but sometimes it's hard to find time to use it. Outrage can serve as a useful way of late game sweeping once Steel-types are eliminated. You can use Earthquake > Brick Break if you aren't planning to break stall with this. EVs allow you to at least speed tie with other MixMence, and you 2HKO max HP / Def Bold Blissey with SR up ~97% of the time. Mild is an awful Nature, it limits Salamence when switching into physical threats with Intimidate. Naive or Rash is much better, depending on what your team needs.
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I'm wondering if this is a good set for Mamoswine.

Mamoswine @ CB
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252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Snow Cloak
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~ Ice Shard
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~ Ice Fang / Superpower
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Quote originally posted by GengarMaster:
I'm wondering if this is a good set for Mamoswine.

Mamoswine @ CB
Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Snow Cloak
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Shard
~ Stone Edge
~ Ice Fang / Superpower
That set is fine, though personally I run LO to switch between moves and not get locked into say EQ and have something setup on it.
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Alright thanks! Would Ancientpower be a good alternative to Stone Edge since it has better accuracy and the possible stat boost?
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Quote originally posted by GengarMaster:
I'm wondering if this is a good set for Mamoswine.

Mamoswine @ CB
Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Snow Cloak
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Shard
~ Stone Edge
~ Ice Fang / Superpower
Dammit Pokedra :<

Adamant is also an option if you want a little more power.

Quote originally posted by GengarMaster:
Alright thanks! Would Ancientpower be a good alternative to Stone Edge since it has better accuracy and the possible stat boost?
Anceint power is a special attack, and Mamo's special attack stat is abysmal. Stick with Stone Edge.
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Alright thanks! Would Ancientpower be a good alternative to Stone Edge since it has better accuracy and the possible stat boost?
No because Stone Edge is a physical move, Ancientpower is Special, and the huge power loss isn't worth it. Stone Edge will always be the best, as it also has a high critical hit rate.
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Okay, sweet, thanks. I'm guessing that Adamant nature would be better since Mamoswine is already slow and a boost in speed wouldn't do much?
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Quote originally posted by GengarMaster:
Okay, sweet, thanks. I'm guessing that Adamant nature would be better since Mamoswine is already slow and a boost in speed wouldn't do much?
You're outrun by Adamant Lucario (who really uses ES once an SD is set up), Timid Heatran (big threat in my opinion), Offensive Suicune (you have no reason to stay in on this anyway), and Adamant Gyarados (big threat). You only lose ~4% for damage when using Jolly instead of Adamant, so you won't loss any significant damage.
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Thanks for letting me know, otherwise I would have gone and caught a Adamant Ditto.
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Does anybody know where I can find an EV Calculator?

if you mean iv calculator i use this http://www.psypokes.com/dex/iv.php
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Quote originally posted by RayquazaLv.X:
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http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/IV.aspx

Just type in the Pokémon, then put in the Nature. I usually replace the 1 in the Level slot with 100, delete the other rows, and put in the IVs and EVs (or EPs for what he uses).

Shoddy is useful to use as an EV calculator too.
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I don't know what is a good move set for my Dragonite.
im using it for my story game not competitive so please help me out

Move set:
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superpower/hyper beam
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I don't know what is a good move set for my Dragonite.
im using it for my story game not competitive so please help me out

Move set:
Outrage
superpower/hyper beam
thunder/thunderpunch
and dragon dance or surf
In game doesn't really matter, so whatever you use will be totally fine. Superpower and ThunderPunch will be better if you're running a Dragon Dance set :D
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Quote originally posted by Jasonpower:
I don't know what is a good move set for my Dragonite.
im using it for my story game not competitive so please help me out

Move set:
Outrage
superpower/hyper beam
thunder/thunderpunch
and dragon dance or surf

I got this: Pure Physical Sweeper.

Dragonite @ Yache Berry
Adamant
EV: 4HP/176 Attack/252 Speed
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Outrage(although you can use Dragon Claw if don't like confusing yourself, or Dragon Rush for a flincher chance)
Rock Slide

Quote originally posted by Chaostorm:
if you're worried about Focus Blast's Accuracy , you might need to use Hidden Power Fighting Over it , but you will miss the 2HKO on chansey =/.
I'm not running into Chansey's, 'cause they rare. The reason I don't use HP 'cause they're sometimes unpredictable. I'll use it anyway.
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I got this: Pure Physical Sweeper.

Dragonite @ Yache Berry
Adamant
EV: 4HP/176 Attack/252 Speed
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Outrage(although you can use Dragon Claw if don't like confusing yourself, or Dragon Rush for a flincher chance)
Rock Slide
Why would he not max out his EVs and put the rest in attack? O.O

And Fire Punch/Blast is vastly superior to Rock Slide in terms of coverage. And on top of that, Salamence outclasses DD Nite in every way, the only reason I didn't suggest that is because he said it was in-game, so anything will work really.
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^ reasons?
1. Don't have the time, because I'm currently a working student.
2. It's not in Platinum, which I'll be probably getting this X-mas
3. Fire-Blast is more innacurate than RS, and I'm nunning out of TMs.
4. Not against Salamence, which of course more superior than D, but less of a "tank"
5. and I forgot it was in game lolz lolz lolz >.<
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Is this a good Starmie replacement? I'm trying to avoid Starmie because I've used it so many times in the past, I don't want to think that it's my only good option.

Empoleon @ Life Orb
Modest
Torrent
24 HP / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
~ Surf / Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ Grass Knot
~ Agility

Is a Naughty Infernape just as good as Naive Infernape?
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Quote originally posted by GengarMaster:
Is this a good Starmie replacement? I'm trying to avoid Starmie because I've used it so many times in the past, I don't want to think that it's my only good option.

Empoleon @ Life Orb
Modest
Torrent
24 HP / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
~ Surf / Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ Grass Knot
~ Agility

Is a Naughty Infernape just as good as Naive Infernape?
Well, Agility Empoleon is a bit different from Starmie in that you'll probably be using it more late-game sweeping. But sure, you can still use it if you like, it's a pretty effective set.

Naive is better because you want to take advantage of Infernape's high speed. If you EV it correctly, you'll still do plenty of damage with physical attacks. Granted, if you're running a pure physical attacking set, Jolly is usually preferred, but for a mixed set, Naive is the best nature.
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Thanks so much for your help! I'll use Empoleon. Naive Infernape it is!

What's better for a Special Sweeping Lucario? Modest or Timid?

**EDIT**
I've been doing a bit more researching and I was wondering how this would be for Empoleon:

Empoleon @ Life Orb
Modest
Torrent
24 HP / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
~ Surf / Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ Grass Knot
~ Brine

It seems reasonable to be because the Life Orb recoil will eventually get me to 50% HP which will double Brine's damage + Life Orb + Torrent.

Also Overheat > Flamethrower on a Nasty Plot MixApe is good, right?

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Quote originally posted by Wolf.:
http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/IV.aspx

Just type in the Pokémon, then put in the Nature. I usually replace the 1 in the Level slot with 100, delete the other rows, and put in the IVs and EVs (or EPs for what he uses).

Shoddy is useful to use as an EV calculator too.
I meant an EV Calculator.
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Quote originally posted by RayquazaLv.X:

I meant an EV Calculator.
You can't calculate EVs. You have to keep track of them yourself.
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Quote originally posted by GengarMaster:
What's better for a Special Sweeping Lucario? Modest or Timid?
You outrun Jolly Mamoswine / Dragonite, Jolly Gyarados, Adamant Electivire, Jolly Heracross / Suicune / Kingdra, Timid Rotom-A and Adamant Flygon. Might have missed some. Up to you and what fits for your team, but beating Jolly Gyarados and Timid Rotom-A is pretty nice. (b' ')b

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**EDIT**
I've been doing a bit more researching and I was wondering how this would be for Empoleon:

Empoleon @ Life Orb
Modest
Torrent
24 HP / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
~ Surf / Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ Grass Knot
~ Brine

It seems reasonable to be because the Life Orb recoil will eventually get me to 50% HP which will double Brine's damage + Life Orb + Torrent.
Brine doubles in power when the target's HP is lower than 50%.

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Also Overheat > Flamethrower on a Nasty Plot MixApe is good, right?
Definitely not, Fire Blast or Flamethrower works. Overheat lowers the user's SpA by 2, which will make you lose your Nasty Plot boost, hindering your sweep.

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I meant an EV Calculator.
There's no such thing. I only assumed that you meant Stat / IV calculator.
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Quote originally posted by Wolf.:
You outrun Jolly Mamoswine / Dragonite, Jolly Gyarados, Adamant Electivire, Jolly Heracross / Suicune / Kingdra, Timid Rotom-A and Adamant Flygon. Might have missed some. Up to you and what fits for your team, but beating Jolly Gyarados and Timid Rotom-A is pretty nice. (b' ')b

Brine doubles in power when the target's HP is lower than 50%.

Definitely not, Fire Blast or Flamethrower works. Overheat lowers the user's SpA by 2, which will make you lose your Nasty Plot boost, hindering your sweep.


There's no such thing. I only assumed that you meant Stat / IV calculator.
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