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Old February 4th, 2010 (03:51 PM).
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Quote originally posted by FreakyLocz14:
Two questions.

1) How are moves whose Base Powers vary (i.e. Gyro Ball, Grass Knot, Psywave) taken into account on Pokemon with Technician?

2) Are status drops like the Speed drop from Paralysis or the Attack drop from burns passed on while Baton Passing?
1. Yeah, according to Smogon's Damage Calc, though I'm not entirely for sure.

2. Yes.
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Old February 5th, 2010 (10:35 AM).
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O.K,

SoI know it' much bettr as a Floatzel, but I already have a good Floatzel and Buizel is MUCH cooler and not as expected in battles anymore.

So can someone give me a good strategy for Buizel that includes:
- Best Nature
- Best E.V Stats
- Best Moves
- Best Helditem

Just like they'd do in Smogon, but sadly they don't have recipes for Buizel.

If someone could help, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Old February 5th, 2010 (10:39 AM).
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Erm. What can Buizel do that Floatzel can't? If anyone prepares for Floatzel, you can be damned sure that the same preparations would apply to Buizel as well. The only one that'll be benefiting from you using Buizel is your opponent :/
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Old February 5th, 2010 (10:42 AM).
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I know, but I have a longweekend and I have nothing ele to do.

I'm also trying to get my hands on a Bold and Naive (Hidden Power Fire for Naive) Giratina and so far I'm having no luck.

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Old February 5th, 2010 (12:06 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Skarmory:
O.K,

SoI know it' much bettr as a Floatzel, but I already have a good Floatzel and Buizel is MUCH cooler and not as expected in battles anymore.

So can someone give me a good strategy for Buizel that includes:
- Best Nature
- Best E.V Stats
- Best Moves
- Best Helditem

Just like they'd do in Smogon, but sadly they don't have recipes for Buizel.

If someone could help, it would be greatly appreciated.
- Best Nature
Adamant or Jolly
- Best E.V Stats
252Atk/252Spe
- Best Moves
Crunch/Aqua Jet/Ice Punch/Waterfall/Substitute/Focus Punch (not reccomended)/Iron Tail/Brick Break/Taunt/Slash/Bulk Up
- Best Helditem
Choice Band/Life Orb

Using Buziel though is just lol. Its so outclassed. Just evolve it into a Buziel, being unpredictable is good sometimes, but your not going to fool anyone by uzing a lower evolution with worse stats.
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Old February 6th, 2010 (01:57 PM).
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Can anyone help me w movesets for snorlax. I definitely want to incorporate rest and sleeptalk, but I dont know what 2 attack moves it should have.
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Old February 6th, 2010 (02:06 PM).
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Quote originally posted by andersennavy:
Can anyone help me w movesets for snorlax. I definitely want to incorporate rest and sleeptalk, but I dont know what 2 attack moves it should have.
Body Slam is an obvious choice for STAB, as for the second move Earthquake (for Heatran, TTar, etc overall doing more damage to Steels), Crunch (for Ghosts such as Gengar and Rotom-A, and lastly Fire Blast (for Scizor, Skarm, Bronzong, Forretress, etc).
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Old February 6th, 2010 (02:17 PM).
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You could also try Return > Body Slam and Curse is a good move for Snorlax.
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Old February 6th, 2010 (05:08 PM).
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Milotic/Whatever nature
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Moveset
Surf
Ice Beam
Hypnosis
???

Can someone get the right nature and last move for this Milotic
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Old February 6th, 2010 (05:13 PM).
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Milotic/Whatever nature
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Surf
Ice Beam
Hypnosis
???

Can someone get the right nature and last move for this Milotic
Bold Max HP and Defense and Recover last slot. Toxic is also better than Hypnosis on Milotic.
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Old February 6th, 2010 (10:45 PM). Edited February 6th, 2010 by Stan the man.
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Hi everybody i recently obtained a deoxys (admant) celibi (lonley) mew(bashful) raikou (naughty) butterfree (shiny)(bold) and an ursprang (what ever nature you need it to be) . And i have Meany questions, Deoxys: What is the best form and can you give me a movset for it?. Urspring butterfree raikou mew celebi, Movesets please.


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Old February 7th, 2010 (12:36 AM). Edited February 7th, 2010 by Pokedra.
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Quote originally posted by Stan the man:
Hi everybody i recently obtained a deoxys (admant) celibi (lonley) mew(bashful) raikou (naughty) butterfree (shiny)(bold) and an ursprang (what ever nature you need it to be) . And i have Meany questions, Deoxys: What is the best form and can you give me a movset for it?. Urspring butterfree raikou mew celebi, Movesets please.


Thanks, Stan.
Sorry to break the news but most of those are pretty horrible natures, Raikou wants Timid or Modest, Bold does little to help Butterfree since it can't take a hit and Celebi usually doesn't use Attack apart from SD which uses Adamant and Deoxys run Naive or Rash usually since they are primarily specially-based and carry Superpower for Blissey.

And to answer your question, there is no best form. It depends on what your team needs, for example if you need a good lead then Deoxys-S works well, if you need an attacker then go for Deoxys-A or if you need a Spiker/wall go for Deoxys-D. Movesets for the rest

Celebi @ Leftovers
Nature : Bold
EV : 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
- Grass Knot
- Recover
- Thunder Wave / Reflect
- Leech Seed / HP [Fire]

Standard defensive set.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Nature : Modest
EV : 232 HP / 244 SpA / 32 Spe
- Leaf Storm
- Recover
- Thunder Wave
- HP [Fire]

Tinkerbell, a multi-purpose set that offers decent defense and packs a punch as well.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Nature : Timid
EV : 68 HP / 116 SpA / 72 SpD / 252 Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- HP [Ice] / Shadow Ball

SubCM Raikou, setup a Sub and CM then attempt to sweep.

Butterfree @ Leftovers
Nature : Timid
EV : 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Sleep Powder
- Stun Spore
- U-Turn
- Bug Buzz

Butterfree is pretty horrible tbh and there are heaps of better options, CompoundEyes is its only redeeming quality. Basically sleep something and then paralyze stuff and U-Turn away. Pretty useless though :/

Usaring @ Leftovers
Nature : Adamant
EV : 228 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Def / 12 SpD / 4 Spe
- Swords Dance
- Return
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch

Setup and sweep, simple enough,

You'll have to rebreed Butterfree and Usaring and those legendaries are really unusable, sorry =(
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Old February 7th, 2010 (12:40 AM).
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wow that sucks..... i just quickly grabbed them off a game my mate was throwing out.
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Old February 7th, 2010 (12:42 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Pokedra:
Butterfree @ Leftovers
Nature : Timid
EV : 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Sleep Powder
- Stun Spore
- U-Turn
- Bug Buzz

Butterfree is pretty horrible tbh and there are heaps of better options, CompoundEyes is its only redeeming quality. Basically sleep something and then paralyze stuff and U-Turn away. Pretty useless though :/
Corrected it. You wrote Stun Powder lol.
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Old February 7th, 2010 (10:38 AM).
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Shiftry

Moves:
Solar Beam
Sunny Day
Explosion
X-scissor

EV's:
248 Atk
252 Sp.Atk
8 Spd

Nature:
Mild

Item:
Lum Berry

Ability:
Chlorophyll
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Houndoom

Moves:
Flamethrower
Dark Pulse
Nasty Plot
Will-o-Wisp

EV's:
252 Sp.Atk
188 Spd
68 HP

Nature:
Timid

Item:
Life Orb

Ability:
Flash Fire
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Gardevoir

Moves:
Thunder Wave
Wish
Psychic
Thunderbolt

Ev's:
252 HP
224 Sp. Def
32 Sp. Atk

Nature:
Modest

Item:
Leftovers

Ability:
Trace
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Before anyone say Blissey will own my team, thats why Shiftry has explode. Anyone that says a fighting pokemon will own my team, thats why I have Gardevoir. One day I was thinking of what pokemon have flash fire as their ability, and i found out Houndoom did, so Shiftry can act like the Gyarados when you sub that in for electivire. Which is the reason I made the team. It's just lucky that Shiftry and Houndoom benefit from sunny day.
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Old February 7th, 2010 (10:49 AM).
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3 pokemon does =/= a team. :/

Also Blissey owns 2/3 of your team lol
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Old February 7th, 2010 (11:14 AM).
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This is only half a team btw
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Old February 7th, 2010 (11:20 AM).
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They're pretty good, yet it is true that Blissey owns 2/3 of it. What happened to the other three, by the way?
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Old February 7th, 2010 (11:27 AM). Edited February 7th, 2010 by Dark Azelf.
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Merged battle tower team here.
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If I take Scizor out on another opponent's team, what gets breathing room to sweep?
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If I take Scizor out on another opponent's team, what gets breathing room to sweep?
Latias, T-Tar, LO Gengar and Mence are a few, aka anything that doesn't like Bullet Punch or can't get through Scizor with one hit.
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Is there such a moveset like a bulky DDTar set? Because I would like to try it out if there is, otherwise I'll just fool around with EVs/Nautres etc until I make one that works.
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Old February 8th, 2010 (09:16 AM).
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No, there isn't really a bulky DDTar set.
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Bulky DD Tar probably isn't going to work that well since it needs a maximum speed investment to be effective. Shifting some of the EVs to HP or the defenses not only weakens its offensive power but the extra bulk really isn't going to come into play since it already has some bad common weaknesses to fighting, ground, water ect.
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Well, poop. Oh well. I guess thats what I get for theorymoning.
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