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Old December 18th, 2014 (11:57 AM). Edited December 21st, 2014 by MrMacBeth.
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a Pokemon FireRed Hack by MrMacBeth
First one actually...


Introduction:
Hello to everyone and welcome to my first ever Hack presentation Thread! (so exciting, isn't it?)

Please lemme introduce my work in progress: Pokemon version 6 (I guess it would be named "6 Edition" in english), based on Pokemon FireRed. My objective here is to make a challenging hack, without ever being unfair to the player.
To do so, I don't want to fall into the obvious trap of irrelevant level gaps and rather balanced the stats and movesets of often overlooked pokemons, implemented a handful of fakemons and of course gave to crucial characters strategically built and balanced teams. Finally, even outside of the battlefield, I tried (time will tell if I suceeded) to diversify the puzzles and make them harder than in actual pokemon games.

Doing so, I am actually expecting the player to never feel safe in this world and consequently to invest oneself more deeply in the storyline, which is everything but kind-hearted (don't misunderstand me: there will be both drama and humor, but dont expect the latter not to be based on pure nastiness and/or bad taste).

To sum it up, I may have too high expectations, but who knows? I might be able to pull it off and stay committed until the end!

Storyline:

Once upon a time in the region of Methora...

Everything could have gone smoothly... You could have started your pokemon quest like all the other young adults reaching your age. You could have travelled with your friends, humans and pokemons, like most of them. You could have collected badges, defy the pokemon league and maybe become Champion, like a few chosen ones.


Player Characters

Violette

But it went wrong right from the start, when you and your childhood friend, Violette, were sent to your journey and were soon confronted by members of the Amethyst Cult. Even though those guys had been mocked for years for their shaky beliefs, they recently took a turn for the worse, becoming more and more active and violent. Maybe it had something to do with the unexplained recent surge of Ghost-type pokemon and with those so called "purple rifts" the rumors were talking about...


Amethyst Cult Grunts and Logo

And to top it off, instead of being exclusively accompanied by Violette in your quest, as you expected, fate brought upon you the presence of THOSE TWO JERKS the professors asked you to rescue in the fang creek to start your adventure... Obnoxiousness at its finest...


"THOSE TWO JERKS"
AKA Moraude and MacBeth

Explore a region filled with History of war, politics, superstitions and mysteries in order "to be the very best"
®(and if possible shake off your nuisances of companions...)!

Features:
  • Discover the region of Methora, an eclectic land. From the icy peaks of Palciel to the fields of red grass of Schwarzhul to the paradox of Platineth, torn between Technology and traditions, you will never have the impression to visit the same place twice!
  • Face the challenge of a game thought to be nuzlocked by top trainers!
  • Introducing about 100 brand new pokemons as well as balancing those already existing (chosen from Gen 1 to 6)

Examples of Fakemons
  • Two new types added to the original rom: the always-necessary Fairy type and a mysterious one created just for this game, with very VERY limited distribution!
  • 10 badges to collect, kept by ferocious gym leaders, having at their disposal powerful, strategically built teams!
  • And many others (physical/special split, etc...)...

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Maps:

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Bourg Violet (starter Town)

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Port Tyriane

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Crimsalia

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Nouvelle Adélie

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Ivory Bay


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Schwarzhul

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OmeOmeriee, for letting me use his Froslass sprite.

Conclusion:

Here you go! I hope some of you will be interested in my project! Any help would be welcome (especially regarding ASM, actually...)!

PS: Please, excuse my english, as you can see on my avatar, I'm French and consequently terrible at foreign languages.
PS2: You can visit my DeviantArt Page for more (http://dragon-du-22.deviantart.com/)
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Old December 18th, 2014 (12:38 PM).
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OMG!!!! The maps look soo good!!

Keep up the good work!
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Old December 18th, 2014 (12:48 PM).
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Thank you! Mapping is actually what i like most in Rom hacking and consequently put the most effort in.
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:02 PM).
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Wow this hack looks really nice. Like TheRealOCD said the maps look amazing. I also like the character sprites. They look like they could be from a real Pokemon game. Your Fakemon look nice too although the ones that look like Vespiquen, Gardevoir, and Deoxys are bugging me but that's probably just my fault.


I'm excited for the challenge and I hope you are able to finish this.
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:06 PM). Edited December 18th, 2014 by MrMacBeth.
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The one that looks like vespiqueen is actually her evolution and the gardevoir-looking one is the mega form of a third alternative evolution of kirlia. So the look alike feeling is definitely voluntary

For the third one, however, I just realized the resemblance right now... I will have to do something about that '

PS: They are all made from scratch though.
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:13 PM).
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Quote originally posted by MrMacBeth:
The one that looks like vespiqueen is actually her evolution and the gardevoir-looking one is the mega form of a third alternative evolution of kirlia. So the look alike feeling is definitely voluntary

For the third one, however, I just realized the resemblance right now... I will have to do something about that '

Lol I like how your adding new evolutions and I'm glad I could help.
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:23 PM).
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Really Great! I mean its great!
I love custom sprites and this game looks super good the maps have no errors the fakemon are good and i love challenges. I have some things u may want to include in starter post or just answer for me.
To what gen will pokemon be from example gen 1 to gen 6 which is all.
Will there be mega evoltutions?
Fairy type pokemon?
Is there a nuzlocke mode? (Some of my favorite games are automatically in nuzlocke mode )
Btw i saw ur adding new evolutions add that to the top post because its amazing and itll definately attract people who like fakemon!
Good luck and this is being added to my list of support!
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:34 PM).
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Wow. You're quite good at spriting, and your maps look great!

I look forward to seeing how you do when you work on the scripting.
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:38 PM).
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A Wiccan pentagram o.O

To be honest I don't like when the people use a maps with custom style tiles and the default style, looks weird, but your maps looks ok.

And I like the purple palletes of the hack, gives a really creepy style, btw good look!
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:55 PM).
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God, I can already see potential in this. This looks pretty sweet for your first hack. Looks like you did alot of planning.

Can't wait for more!

also, oh my god, is one of the fakemon a NEW DEOXYS?
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Old December 18th, 2014 (01:56 PM).
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Everything is looking awesome, I will keep an eye on this project. Good luck!
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Old December 18th, 2014 (02:06 PM). Edited December 18th, 2014 by MrMacBeth.
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Fun Size:As I said in my starter thread, any help is appreciated :D
What can you do?

Dedenne1: 1)Thanks a lot for the kind words!
2) Most of your question are answered in my post, but np, i will precise ;)
a) there will be fakemons and pokemons FROM ALL 6 generations, but only selected ones, considering that I don't know how to increase the max number but if someone has a good tutorial about going beyond 386 pokes (+25), I'm interested!

b) Yes, there is mega evolutions (official and invented), but they are treated as regular evolutions, which means there will be only one evolutionnary stone of this kind in the game, to keep the limit from 6th gen of 1 mega per party.

c) Yes, Fairy type is here as well as another custom type, with VERY limited distribution.

d) No nuzlocke mode, because I don't know if it's possible on GBA, but if it is I WANT A TUTORIAL, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE!

e) I will add that to the feature paragraph ;)

f) thanks for adding my hack to your list of support. means a lot to me!

Itari: As I said, the esthetics part is what i like most about hacking, so it's always a pleasure to read that ;)
As far as scripting goes, I will have to learn it more extensively, but I'm rather confident so far... so far...

G0ld: a) a pentagram for bad guys, seems legit!
b) I actually wanted to change the tiles for the Pkmn center and the shop, but my tilesets were already filled to the brim, so, I guess it will have to remain this way, sorry!
c) With a ghost type being the main legendary of my game, it felt appropriate. Moreover, I like when the menus, etc... are coherent color-wise. makes me think of Persona ^^

Actually, here is an artwork i just finished of the foresaid legendary. It's not great, but I will work on it ;)



"Korean-named person": I actually did a lot of planning!It had been a long time I wanted to do my own hack, so I had time to think about it and HERE IT IS!

Joltjolteon: Thanks (sorry not to be more original here ~_~)!

Also love your pokemon saiken hack btw.
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Old December 18th, 2014 (03:08 PM).
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Fun Size:As I said in my starter thread, any help is appreciated :D
What can you do?

Dedenne1: 1)Thanks a lot for the kind words!
2) Most of your question are answered in my post, but np, i will precise
a) there will be fakemons and pokemons FROM ALL 6 generations, but only selected ones, considering that I don't know how to increase the max number but if someone has a good tutorial about going beyond 386 pokes (+25), I'm interested!

b) Yes, there is mega evolutions (official and invented), but they are treated as regular evolutions, which means there will be only one evolutionnary stone of this kind in the game, to keep the limit from 6th gen of 1 mega per party.

c) Yes, Fairy type is here as well as another custom type, with VERY limited distribution.

d) No nuzlocke mode, because I don't know if it's possible on GBA, but if it is I WANT A TUTORIAL, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE!

e) I will add that to the feature paragraph

f) thanks for adding my hack to your list of support. means a lot to me!

Itari: As I said, the esthetics part is what i like most about hacking, so it's always a pleasure to read that
As far as scripting goes, I will have to learn it more extensively, but I'm rather confident so far... so far...

G0ld: a) a pentagram for bad guys, seems legit!
b) I actually wanted to change the tiles for the Pkmn center and the shop, but my tilesets were already filled to the brim, so, I guess it will have to remain this way, sorry!
c) With a ghost type being the main legendary of my game, it felt appropriate. Moreover, I like when the menus, etc... are coherent color-wise. makes me think of Persona

Actually, here is an artwork i just finished of the foresaid legendary. It's not great, but I will work on it



"Korean-named person": I actually did a lot of planning!It had been a long time I wanted to do my own hack, so I had time to think about it and HERE IT IS!

Joltjolteon: Thanks (sorry not to be more original here )!

Also love your pokemon saiken hack btw.
*Firstly just so u know on the bottom of every post is the little quote button that can quote a message in the thread directly as im doing now also theres a button that looks like 4 boxes for multiple quotes.

Ik for a fact there is a way to increase the pokedex above that number i cant say ik for sure on firered hacks but i believe there is one.
Theres ways to make a nuzlocke mode well its not a "mode" in hacks but by different coding you can make the pokemon "die" after a certain amount of faints i dont remeber what hack it was in where my machop died after 4 faints and i was like whatttttt? In atomic reactors "game" not hack he has a nuzlocke based system i believe similar were after a certain amount your pokemon will essentially "die".

Anyways...
Really a new type? Thats so cool!
I dont 109% even if you can insert all pokemon recommend it haha i think just some legends and a good amount of pokemon from other regions like u said hand picked
Idk if this in the above post but are the starters u choose from(i believe u choose starters haha) fakemon? Thats usually the best and most fun XD
YAY Megas! And Custom? Wow this is just a great hack haha
Np its in my list (in my bio because its too big for anywere else) and im like picky on anything i put in there so your is just that great :p
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Old December 18th, 2014 (03:27 PM).
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Very interesting, I like the stories concept and the ideas for the hack.
The custom art looks well done too, You seem to be pretty far into developement as far as mapping goes. Are all of the cities you've shown complete with events?
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Old December 18th, 2014 (05:06 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Smeargle:
Very interesting, I like the stories concept and the ideas for the hack.
The custom art looks well done too, You seem to be pretty far into developement as far as mapping goes. Are all of the cities you've shown complete with events?

Well... All the mapping of the cities is done, but I have to redo some of them which dont satisfy me anymore.

Regarding the events, I know what I want, where I want, but it still has to be done.

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Old December 19th, 2014 (01:46 AM).
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Quote originally posted by MrMacBeth:
Joltjolteon: Thanks (sorry not to be more original here )!

Also love your pokemon saiken hack btw.
To be fair I was in a hurry, so i didn't said too much too, haha

I have time now, so I'll say/ask a few things:

1) Why the title of the hack is Version 6?

2) The purple rifts reminds me a lot of the cracks in space and time from Doctor Who. Are they related in some way?

3) The trees from bourg violet are looking amazing! But the inverted ones are bugging me a little, i think the change in color are enough to differentiate each other. Same for the ones from Nouvelle Adélie, although they contribute for the simetry on certain places.

4) Speaking of Nouvelle Adélie, I really like the artistic feeling of it! Specially the piano stage. Perhaps you plan an event for this part of the town?

5)

The "A" reminds me of the Avengers logo. Very cool.

6) The fakémon looks incredible too, specially the alternate kirlia evolution.

Again, I wish you all of the luck. This project has big potential! And i'm glad you like my hack too, haha
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I think I fell in love. Yea expect this on my channel when its done oh my lord.
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Old December 19th, 2014 (04:53 AM).
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Holy mother of Hanukah this looks amazing!!!!
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Old December 19th, 2014 (05:15 AM).
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Quote originally posted by joltjolteon:
To be fair I was in a hurry, so i didn't said too much too, haha

I have time now, so I'll say/ask a few things:

1) Why the title of the hack is Version 6?
Many reasons, but the most crucial one is that it sounds cool to me and is actually my favorite number (for some reason)
Story-wise, the number 6 more or less represents "evil" ("number of the beast" and other freakingly cliché things ) and also kinda looks like my title legendary (being a foetus with an umbilical cord). Finally, I was also thinking of dividing my story in 6 acts, much like a play.

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2) The purple rifts reminds me a lot of the cracks in space and time from Doctor Who. Are they related in some way?
Even though I'm a Whovian, No. The inspiration, at least estheticly speaking, comes actually more from the midnight channel in Persona 4. However, just like all the fictionnal metaphysical rifts, it will indeed bring the player and those falling inside somewhere else. where? you will seeeee...

(Not a fan of the beginnings of Matt Smith and consequently of the time-and-space crack storyline.)

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3) The trees from bourg violet are looking amazing! But the inverted ones are bugging me a little, i think the change in color are enough to differentiate each other. Same for the ones from Nouvelle Adélie, although they contribute for the simetry on certain places.
I thought the same, but when you actually are on the emulator, it really adds depth to the small part of the world you see on your screen. Just a very personal opinion though

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4) Speaking of Nouvelle Adélie, I really like the artistic feeling of it! Specially the piano stage. Perhaps you plan an event for this part of the town?
The artsy feeling is absolutely the theme of this city, glad to like it. Originally, it was supposed to be centered on Drama only, but grew into that, much to my satisfaction!

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The "A" reminds me of the Avengers logo. Very cool.
Don't expect to save the world though, you might be disappointed...

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6) The fakémon looks incredible too, specially the alternate kirlia evolution.

Again, I wish you all of the luck. This project has big potential! And i'm glad you like my hack too, haha
Thanks a lot, but it's actually a shame I can't show my favorite ones, because they are important story-wise and I still want to build mystery

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I think I fell in love. Yea expect this on my channel when its done oh my lord.
Would be a pleasure consedering I'm one of your suscribers!

PS: is your Showdown name "sacredfirenegr0¨, because if it is, I think I add a NU match with you some time ago?
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Old December 19th, 2014 (06:40 AM).
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This looks like the kind of hack I would make love too. When it's done, I'll play it for the rest of my life.
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Old December 19th, 2014 (07:13 AM).
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heyooooo, Great start!
I would just recommend you not to get lost with the amount of tiles you are inserting, because even if they are beautiful they may cause some visual pollution in some spots and that may affect the gameplay. Also, your maps are kinda big, you should put some signs in them
Keep going! I love how you are giving life to the characters and the Never!Black&White references (maybe I'm seeing things)
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This just deserves so much YES. This needs to be created. Im soooooooo down for this. Deffinantly expect this on my channel @Pokemon Patronus. I love stuff like this and this would just be the thing id love to have created. Dude. So much props to you for this.
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Old December 19th, 2014 (09:08 AM).
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Great job, MacBeth! You French folk are so artsy. Right away from reading your introduction, I can see this is gonna be a great hack. Perhaps, for me, the Introduction grabbed my attention and was the most interesting part of your hack. Not so say your screenshots aren't amazing (which they are!), but I'm most impressed by the features you plan to implement, and your overall take on the game's mechanics. I love how you are focused on immersing the player into the story and the difficulty. And dark humour is always a nice touch! :-)

Your sprites, the trainers and Fakemon, are all very well done. The logo is especially also awesome. And the tiles and colours are also very well done. This is a great-looking game.

Lastly, I think I can nitpick the nuances of your hack because it looks like you take it very seriously. My only critique is in the mapping style--it looks to me very chaotic and cluttered. There's SO MUCH going on in every inch of the map that it seems overwhelming, and it also seems like it would hinder the player's exploration. I understand your desire to fill empty spaces and diversify the tiles, but with the small size of GBA maps, less can be more. To add to that, it seems like you didn't utilise the sheer size of your maps (i.e., a lot of your maps are outlined by tons of trees/mountains), so you could have stretched out your buildings so they weren't so tightly compressed to eachother, or to other tiles. For example, a lot of doors have only 1 tile space in front of them; to me, that looks sort of claustrophobic.

With that said, I don't even think that's a big deal. You could say your maps reflect the hectic atmosphere of the game itself, because as you say, you expect "the player to never feel safe in this world." I guess my suggestion is simplify at least A LITTLE BIT. Otherwise...again, great job!!
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Old December 19th, 2014 (10:23 AM).
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Hey your maps are simply stunning!

Although I'm not fond of fakemon, I might play this once it releases.

Keep going anyway, your hack looks very solid!
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This rom hack looks very interesting

good luck, hopefully you'll stay committed till the very end
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