Pokémon: Phantom Champion Zoroark Official Discussion (Japanese Spoilers)

[Jorah]

^ Yeah, they are, really. I've just assumed they were to make up for the lack of ending songs that the Japanese version always has. I don't think they'll do that now since even a minute long opening is too long for the dub these days, so I don't think there's any chance they'll add an ending song anymore :/ A black screen with 20 second credits is all we'll get. PUSA did make a song called "Go Pokemon Go" for the Battle Frontier credits, but I didn't really like it. :/

[Galukxy]

but... but I loved Pikachu's Jukebox and PokemonKareokemon ;_; I want it back, but well I agree with the 90's post what Jolene said.

[billi1000]

so the trailer and serebii point out that there really isnt any original dog/beast, its just zoroark transforming into them, and able to use there strongest of attacks!?, this is like transform :P but i really thought the three beasts would be battling and a legendary battle will uphold, but since zoroark is all three of them (or is he not), then i guess they cant co-exist in the same scene, bummer :\, although every movie poster of the movie contains all 3 beasts on the cover like every single one was present, and ho oh and lugia are yet to be introduced into the plot, so i guess this movie will still be epic which ever way it come out :D

[Mew~]

I WANT THIS!!!!
Lol maybe not like "ninties" songs, but more modern ones!!!! I would def buy a CD!

[Semidos]

Yes. I want it back. I always enjoyed those songs. That maked show more funny and enjoyable along with episodes.

[Daeva Okami-Luca]

Eeee... The Pokemon rap was pure awesomeness.

[SuperDonut]

Originally Posted by Daeva Okami-Luca

Eeee... The Pokemon rap was pure awesomeness.

I totally agree.

I liked the song "Together Forever" because I think it was a tribute to Ash and Pikachu.

But that's just me.

[Haza]

Im so happy to see that Zorua can do the shapeshifting too. Im just confused as to whether they are the same being (from different times) or two separate ones.

[Mew~]

Originally Posted by Haza

Im so happy to see that Zorua can do the shapeshifting too. Im just confused as to whether they are the same being (from different times) or two separate ones.

Well, when they first announced zoroark and zorua, I thought that zorua was gonna evolve into zoroark during the movie but now looking at the trailer I think they will be two seperate pokemon! If you watch the bit where celebi is running from the ninjasks celebi brings zorua back from the past/future (at the start of the trailer I think celebi brings zorua with it, or zorua goes through the time portal after celebi) and zorua does a cries out (i think it cries out to zoroark becuase after that bit you see zoroark kinda awakening!) So i guess its safe to assume these things !

I found a good hig res pic of the new poster off bulbapedia

[SolarAbusoru]

Yeah, those new guys certainly do look a bit like older versions of Ash and Dawn, sorta.

[AdvancedK47]

If you look at Dawn's pose, she looks like she is holding on to someone.

Even though I am a Pearlshipper, I'm not saying she is holding on to Ash because on closer inspection, Ash's arm is well beyond Dawn's distance.

So the next conclusion could be that she is holding on to the blue haired guy. But why?

I theorize that that guy could be Dawn's father, and I have scientific and popular proof to back it up.

First of all, if blue hair was real (or maybe it is real? XP) It would certainly be a very damn recessive trait. So for Dawn to have blue hair, both her parents should have blue hair, otherwise, the blue hair trait becomes recessive and Dawn would instead have a more common type of hair if her father was not blue hair.

Then again, the possibility also holds that Dawn's father could be heterogeneous (Having a common hair color because of a dominant trait with a recessive trait) giving Dawn a half-chance of having blue hair. But here is where popular culture comes in:

The writers don't want us to think of all the science crap like I just explained and wasted 20 seconds of your life reading that and 1 hour understanding it. So they get lazy and give Dawn's dad blue hair too.

QED: That is Dawn's father.

[PearlShipper4Life]

I think its been confirmed that its not adult Ash and Dawn.
On the official website they give out names and summary of the film.
However, they could be there childeren in the future.
They just don't need to give out info on the mom is all.
Just let people speculate on it.

[Co500]

it could and this is a big COULD that it might be ash's father or his adult version of him yeah he has a different name but on bulbapedia it says that a reporter is trying to find out his secret! which then could lead us to ash's father or dawns or their adult version or just some random people who are just in the film as normal people

[Jorah]

Like the extremely relevant poll at the top of the thread.

[Co500]

thats about the jukebox???

[Jorah]

Yeah, I wondered why it was in this thread.

[Co500]

so I dont get what you said about my theory

[AdvancedK47]

Originally Posted by Jorah

Yeah, I wondered why it was in this thread.

Oh great. Just like the shipping thread. A mod forgets to remove the poll of some random thread before fusing it with an important thread >_> Once is ok, let's learn from our mistakes but twice....

I need a coke, now.

[PearlShipper4Life]

Originally Posted by Co500

it could and this is a big COULD that it might be ash's father or his adult version of him yeah he has a different name but on bulbapedia it says that a reporter is trying to find out his secret! which then could lead us to ash's father or dawns or their adult version or just some random people who are just in the film as normal people

I'd love it the adults were Ash and Dawn.
or there childeren

[Jorah]

Originally Posted by AdvancedK47

Oh great. Just like the shipping thread. A mod forgets to remove the poll of some random thread before fusing it with an important thread >_> Once is ok, let's learn from our mistakes but twice....

I need a coke, now.

The funny thing is, the Jukebox thread has *nothing* to do with this one. Surely the mod must have noticed that? Wtf? XD Now I look stupid with that post at the top.

[Haza]

According to Serebii & Pokebeach, in the latest issue of CoroCoro, this movie will be your ticket, with a pre ordered ticket to see the film, to the first ever Shiny event legendary Pokemon. You will get either ge 1 or all 3 (wasn't clear to me) of the Legendary Beasts of Johto and they all have new moves. Zap Cannon (Raikou), Flare Blitz(Entei), and Sheer Cold(Suicune). This with the addition of the hidden Celebi event will make these the best movie event set in he DP series. I'm excited.

[Semidos]

Originally Posted by Haza

This with the addition of the hidden Celebi event will make these the best movie event set in he DP series. I'm excited.

I want Celebi to be in GS Ball event. Like in Crystal version. But shiny legends? It's quite interesting.

[Haza]

I know but he GS ball is not in the HGSS coding... and it would not coincide with the film anyway.

[Mujahid]

the guy and lady in the poster are not adult ash and dawn.the lady(rioka) is the secretary of the antagonist of movie(kodai) and the guy is just a reporter .....

[lollypop1997]

Originally Posted by TimeDialga33

No! It Will Be called Pokemon Movie 13:The epic battle:Ho-oh Vs Lugia!.

The story will be that ho-oh and lugia are battling for safety. celebi comes and tries to make them stop. but it does not work so ash and brock and kotone come watch them battle when lugia was defeated. ho-oh asked ash to catch him and ash catches him.then, arceus appears and tell ash that since he caught Ho-oh that he was the chosen one and he can follow his dream one more time by going to Agilia or whatever it was.

Don't Forget that a fith gen pokemon will appear.

It's Ash,Brock and Dawn who are gonna watch them battle!NOT KOTONE!

Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru

Yeah, those new guys certainly do look a bit like older versions of Ash and Dawn, sorta.

Just a little bit.Those older guys look ugly!I'm sure Ash and Dawn won't be like that in later age!