Challenges on Motorcycles!! [CI&D]

[InfernoRogue]

I would be done with at least 4 more challenges if it weren't for my reluctance to play Pearl. Eh. :/

[649]

O_o what's wrong with you people? I love Sinnoh. It's very challenging. Unlike HG/SS. I find it laughable that the trainers right before, say, the 7th gym still have lv 20 or so pokemon.

Sinnoh rocks.

[InfernoRogue]

I didn't say that I dislike Sinnoh. That's definitely not the case. I dislike that D/P/Pt are so slow. :/ I never noticed how slow they were until I played HG and SS.

[mondays suck]

Problem with Sinnoh is that the Sinnoh games are slow as molasses, so if you actually want to get things done (which you WILL want in a challenge), ...
edit: ninja'd

[560cool.]

DP are slow. Platinum's speed was increased considerably. This is why I no longer touch my fake Pearl, which I dug up a few days ago, with its save and a ton of Pokemon on it : a) incredible slowness ; b) it's a pirate ; it won't play on a DSi ; c) ??? ; d) I'm afraid it will break and I'll lose all the stuff I trained from April until July 2009 (a small time window, but I basically ignored school and played Pokemon).

Mmyeah... I love Sinnoh as a region, but the games... just wait until Gen VI, when they'll remake Sinnoh... :D

And I play Ranger because I love the region design. And also for the Heatran. I won't bother beating Platinum and trading one over. It took me one week to beat Ranger. It will take me another year to finish my Favorite on Platinum. I seriously need to grind, since I'm in Veilstone and my Pokemon are like... Lv. 27 ? ._.'

[InfernoRogue]

The time period that it took me to get to Oreburgh is normally the same amount of time that it takes to get through half the game in any other generation. I even cut down my grinding a little, just enough to defeat Roark. (Dragon Rage + Charmeleon ftw)

[myrrhman]

I agree Inferno. Not to mention if you're comparing speed of DP to say RBY, with the 4K speed I can run it in, I can almost beat it.

[Karpman]

Honestly, Sinnoh is a lot easier than HG/SS.
You can easily get a team of good Pokemon and rarely need any derps, and grinding is quite efficient.
Whereas, in HG/SS you have to spend hours and hours just to get your full team to Lv. 40, ie fodder for Lance's dragons.

[Sydian]

I find grinding in HGSS bearable...mainly cause I have a Pokemon following me. Seriously, once you have your Pokemon follow you, it's just hard to live up to that, imo. And it definitely makes it harder to go back to older games...that's just me though. I do hate that HGSS and GSC require beating Red before a challenge is done though. I mean, I understand why, but I just hate the Kanto part of both games. /horrible

[649]

Agreed, HG/SS is basically the scum of challenges. It has nice features, nearly all pokemon available, that pokemon following feature, and the pokewalker, but it is the worst game to play a challenge on.

But what about the best game?
RBY? RSE? FRLG?

[Sydian]

HGSS is not the scum of challenges. >:c -kicks- I am not afraid to abuse powarz! lol <3

I find the worst for challenges to be RBY, since you're limited to just first generation Pokemon. And I can't trade SO...yeah. But for challenges you wanna zip through, it's the best, imo. RSE comes close behind, but I mean, I've played through those games so many times, of course I would say that. GSC and HGSS are the slowest, if the "you must defeat Red" clause in in place. I say DPPt challenges go by slowly too, but that's only because of the speed of the game. BW...I've only beaten White once, so I can't really say. It was pretty linear though. Hm.

[myrrhman]

I agree that HGSS is the worst to play a challenge on. Having access to all the Pokemon is nice (and I didn't have a problem with his Dragonites) but there is too much grinding to be done for Red. I haven't beaten HGSS yet. My original playthrough, I beat the E4 the second time, but halfway through training for red, I gave up because it was so boring. Now I'm to the Kanto part (I think) of my Water Monotype.

Best game is RB fo sho. Sydian doesn't know what he's talking about at all. I know if I look at the challenge and say "would I rather do a _______ monotype on Blue or Ruby?" it will always be Blue. Sure you don't have access to as many Pokemon, but you don't need access to as many Pokemon. Plus the insane speeds it can run at.

I think my rankings goes: RB (I don't ever include yellow because it is just different, and I think in general challenges are easier on R/B and yellow is never in a different category) -> RSE ->GSC ->gap since the rest are so inferior ->DPPt ->FRLG ->HGSS.

I don't like FRLG at all. IMO they are much harder than RB even with access to more attacks and more Pokemon. Plus you have to do extra storyline, can't run it as fast, etc. If I am ever given "beat a challenge in Kanto" it will always be R/B, not YFRLG, and if I am ever given "beat a challenge in Johto" it will always be GSC, not HGSS. The only reason I am doing a HGSS challenge right now is that I'm not contempt with the Water UMC title, and am beating the rest of the games as well.

Tl;dr Red/Blue are god tier, RSE and GSC are good, the rest are awful.

[chaos11011]

I love every region, exept for Hoenn and Sinnoh. HG/SS is much more fun (imo). On HG/SS I can do challenges because I won't get bored, D/P/Pt I lose train of thought. You know how I Nuzlocke games, and be nuzlocking 3 games at a time, yeah I'm still on Platinum, I've been procrasinating it for 2 1/2 months now?

HG/SS I can do a Nuzlocke and add a bunch of rules (Only use 6 Pokemon at a time, after that no captures, Togepi must aways use Metronome when it doesn't have a SE move, ect.)

For me HG/SS > DPPt

[Sydian]

Best game is RB fo sho. Sydian doesn't know what he's talking about at all. I know if I look at the challenge and say "would I rather do a _______ monotype on Blue or Ruby?" it will always be Blue. Sure you don't have access to as many Pokemon, but you don't need access to as many Pokemon. Plus the insane speeds it can run at.

I never said it was the worst to use, and I do know what I'm talking about here. I used to do monotypes on RBY and RSE all the time. But for challenges where more options are needed, I would prefer not to use RBY, that's what I was saying. But I personally like to have the biggest variety of Pokemon available to me, but usually only applying to things like random challenges and the favorite challenge. But those games, for me, are the games I can breeze right through without being too distracted with grinding, since it's pretty simple and I usually capture Pokemon that aren't relatively close to each other.

I don't like FRLG at all. IMO they are much harder than RB even with access to more attacks and more Pokemon. Plus you have to do extra storyline, can't run it as fast, etc. If I am ever given "beat a challenge in Kanto" it will always be R/B, not YFRLG, and if I am ever given "beat a challenge in Johto" it will always be GSC, not HGSS. The only reason I am doing a HGSS challenge right now is that I'm not contempt with the Water UMC title, and am beating the rest of the games as well.

Oh God, don't get me started on FRLG. I couldn't complete a challenge on those games if my cat was dying. Just...horrible. Horrible games with horrible music. I can't even play through those games normally anymore.

My order is something like...

HGSS > RSE > RBY > GSC > DPPt > FRLG

Excluding BW since I've only beaten White once, of course. However, I'm thinking it won't rank too high because...I'm honestly not itching to beat it again. So I think it might fall behind RBY. Also, I've never done a challenge on GSC, so that show shows how bad I dislike DPPt and FRLG for...anything.

Also, I have had this big itch to play Gold or Crystal lately. But idk if I wanna do a challenge (since I tend to get neglectful) or just a normal playthrough. To be honest, I will probably forget about it no matter what I choose to do. @_@

[myrrhman]

You should do it. Do a Psychic Monotype or something (Catch an Abra and teach it all the punches and then you win). It only takes me like an hour and a half.

Speaking of challenges not taking a long time, do you think we could pull off something like:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pokemon Speed Challenge
In this challenge, you simply sign up saying what game you want to play, and then someone else signs up with the same game. You then go head to head in a race to see who can complete it fastest. Emulators are necessary, so that you can see how far each other are. In order to make sure there is no cheating going on, we ask that you (this is the only part I'm not sure on. What program should we tell people to have so they can see each others screens. I know skype can do it, but I don't know if you can do both screens at the same time. I've used teamviewer, but that also means they can mess with your computer if they want to. There also might be other programs out there, so what do you guys think).

Once you find someone to race, contact them via PM/VM and ask if they are ready to start. Once both parties are ready to start, go for it!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What do you guys think? If it gets the thumbs up, and gets popular enough, I was thinking we could even do a little tournament to see who the ultimate speed champion is!

[649]

Do a nuzlocke, or (Shameless Advertise Mode Activate) do my challenge, the Dual Type Challenge Thread, where everybody goes when they want a step up from Monotypes! Prepare for a new challenge, a new experience, new thrills, over my challenge thread! /brick'd

[Alternative]

Originally Posted by myrrhman

You should do it. Do a Psychic Monotype or something (Catch an Abra and teach it all the punches and then you win). It only takes me like an hour and a half.

Speaking of challenges not taking a long time, do you think we could pull off something like:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pokemon Speed Challenge
In this challenge, you simply sign up saying what game you want to play, and then someone else signs up with the same game. You then go head to head in a race to see who can complete it fastest. Emulators are necessary, so that you can see how far each other are. In order to make sure there is no cheating going on, we ask that you (this is the only part I'm not sure on. What program should we tell people to have so they can see each others screens. I know skype can do it, but I don't know if you can do both screens at the same time. I've used teamviewer, but that also means they can mess with your computer if they want to. There also might be other programs out there, so what do you guys think).

Once you find someone to race, contact them via PM/VM and ask if they are ready to start. Once both parties are ready to start, go for it!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What do you guys think? If it gets the thumbs up, and gets popular enough, I was thinking we could even do a little tournament to see who the ultimate speed champion is!

I like the idea of the Speed Challenge, but I don't know if you would need to get two people to compete against each other at the same time. Maybe change it so if it's an update challenge you have to screenshot the save screen and include it within your update. Then keep a track on the fastest times from there.

[myrrhman]

I like that better. I think I'll do that.

[Alternative]

I think I'll actually participate in it as well if I can find a game to do it on, and yeah. You could even add elements from Nuzlocke to make it even harder, like you have to battle every Pokemon you run into and that you can't grind in the grass or stuff like that (I don't know the rules of Nuzlocke, but yeah :P).

[Petilil]

Could swear speed challenge was alpha fan, or at least, it's similar. I have no objections to it, but I do agree it doesn't need to be a competition, unless it's some kind of event, and of course, it'd be all in good fun. I wouldn't participate though, as I take my time playing games, especially since I have an obsession with being overleveled for...everything.

[myrrhman]

Yeah, it is sort of close to Alpha Fan. Meh, maybe this will catch on better. Instead of "ZOMG WE NEED THE REKURD!!!" its more of a friendly competition. Not nearly as much pressure, which is why Alpha Fan died mostly, I'm still working on it as hard as I can.

[InfernoRogue]

Lol, new thread title.

I would probably do that speed challenge, I could probably figure out how to use livestream, since my best friend does it a lot.

BTW, to add to the earlier generation talk, I'm wondering why it takes everyone so long to beat Red. I really don't have to grind that much at all. I went right in on my last Crystal challenge with only Charizard and Raichu, with barely any prior training, and KO'd everything easily. Same with my Crystal Username Challenge. ._.

[Petilil]

Red isn't even that hard, in HGSS or GSC. The hardest thing about fighting him is that damn Snorlax, and even then, it's not as bad in HGSS without Rest + Sleep Talk (I think that's what it had). It just takes a long time to get to him with all the gyms and what not. I think that's the tedious part. Training though? I have beaten him with Pokemon that just got to level 50. Nothing fancy.

[Alternative]

I think the main problem with Red is that people read and see his high level Pokemon and think "Oshi-" and think they need to train lots before battling him, when in reality, he thinks it's smart to keep using Thunderbolt on a ground-type Pokemon.

[Petilil]

He also thinks it's cool to use Pikachu on level 81 before the Light Ball was invented.