Football/Soccer Discussion Thread

[Went]

The problem is, there is a huge media influence all over Real Madrid: Canales was incredibly praised by Real Madrid's newspapers pampleths Marca and As (shortly after they had a "Manolo (Pellegrini), you are fired!" front cover the day right after the league ended). For the last 5/6 years, they have pretty much said who had to leave and who had to be hired and who had to play (two weeks ago, they were all "Van Der Vaart should go") ...and the sad thing is that most coaches have paid attention to them (the ones who didn't were fired after 6 months, not even getting close to the regular year, and one only lasted two matches).

All the best for me though, since I support Atlético and Barça :P It's really fun to go around saying that your team is the one who wins stuff in Madrid lately.

[Ficher]

Haha. I thought you were with RM. xP Yea, I do not think RM will win anything this year, but the next might be different.

By the way, who won La Liga apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid? Did Altetico win it or someone else, too?

[Went]

My family has always been Atlético/Athletic supporters XD So when I told people everybody was "You supoort Atleti? Ha-ha, we have 6 EUROPEAN CUPS AND YOU HAVE 0 LOOOOOLZ"... and believe me it didn't help making me change my team XD Even when we were relegated to Second Division.

Real Madrid - 31
Barça - 20
Atlético de Madrid - 9
Athletic Bilbao - 8
Valencia - 6
Real Sociedad - 2
Deportivo de la Coruña / Sevilla / Betis - 1 each.

[Ficher]

Haha. You are a true, loyal supporter. Haha. I started liking Atletico when Forlan transferred there. xP He's one of my favorite players.

And I thought RM and Barca only won them. Atletico won 9 times, which is pretty fair. This year's La Liga will be Barca's yet again, or Atletico's.

You know the team that came from the 2nd division Hercules? Didn't they buy Trezeguet and some other good players? :O I mean, are they rich or something? They suck.

[sean777]

Hey all i just wondered what you all think about man city who seem to be able to buy anyone. Some people say they hate them and they are ruining the game by trying to take all the talent. But me along with others love man city the only reason i suport them is because we rangers fans tend to go with man city and chealsey whereas the scummy half of Glasgow (Celtic) tend to go with man utd and liverpool.
So just post what you think of them

[Nuke]

Yeah, Rangers won't like Man Utd because the smashed up the town last time they played.

Man City still won't get too far before the owner leaves and they end up with huge debts.

[sean777]

See i dont think the owner will leave as he set out a 5 year plan on what they were theachieve and he estimated they would be a competitive team amongst the best in 3 years so its all looking good to me and tevez is unreal

[Went]

Originally Posted by Ficher

You know the team that came from the 2nd division Hercules? Didn't they buy Trezeguet and some other good players? :O I mean, are they rich or something? They suck.

They are probably rich, I mean, last year they had enough money to pay the teams they were playing against so they wouldn't even attempt to defend to win as many points as possible and get promoted, according to some evidence the police got for a political corruption case the team's owner was involved in- sadly they couldn't use the evidence to relegate them again.

But yeah, if they could pay €200,00 to each player in Cádiz so they would purposedly lose, I guess they have money to hire good players.

[Assassination]

I heard it was just a political matter, as in accusing Hercules in bribing for political reasons. Though the largest shareholder of the Hercules team was caught confessing that the management bribed at least four teams in the 2nd division to ensure relegation/promotion to the first division. However, the tapes were never shown and the case was somehow disregarded afterward. Also, I believe, not sure though, the teams that accepted the bribes were on a temporary suspension and had to pay a fee, but Hercules remained the "innocent" one here.

[Went]

The tapes weren't shown because the Judge that is investigating the corruption case involving the owner is keeping them secret until the investigation is finished. But the Judge admitted the existence of said tapes, but refused to use them to start another investigation since that would break the constitutional right to keep private conversations: the judge authorized recording said conversations just for the corruption case, so they couldn't use it for something else. So... yeah, the League opened an investigation and punished the bribed ones... but that's all.

The "it's a political matter!" part is just a stupid scapegoat claim, since said corruption case involves the regional governor as well. But I can't see how a building contractor bribing a team to get his own one promoted can be considered "a political issue" oo

[Assassination]

Indeed. You have a good point there. It's just sad to see some team with bribing accusations to be even let to play football and moreover, be promoted to first division. Normally, any team or club or even a player that is accused with anything that might compromise something (reputation or whatnot), should be disqualified or banned from playing.

Enough about that. I read that you, Went, support Athletic, which I do till death also. Today, they will own Bilbao, hopefully.

And Everton VS Man Utd just started, like 10 minutes ago. I hope Everton wins. I dislike Man Utd in the PL.

[Resultz]

Can i safely say i'm the only Leeds Fan on this site? :D

[Infamously]

My dad was once a Leeds United supporter, when they were strong and ranked in the top 5 in the PL. After being demoted to the SD, he lost faith in them and they weren't/aren't showing us what they really are capable of anymore.

Manchester United and Everton are tied! Oh my god! Everton scored two goals in the same minute, at the 90th minute, when Manchester was winning 3 to 1. Fletcher, Berbatov, and Vidic score for Manchester and Peinaar, Cahill and Arteta for Everton. It was an exciting match to watch and Berbatov proved to be necessary in Manchester's formation.

[Went]

Oh ho ho, Barça are losing 0-2 against Hércules XD What a surprise. If Madrid flops as well, we have real chances of getting a jumpstart this season.

[Ficher]

Could it be that Hercules bribed Barca? :O Haha. Madrid will probably flop today, but Athletic will win, I hope.

Where is Puyol? Is he injured?

Valencia also won against Racing.

[Nuke]

Originally Posted by sean777

See i dont think the owner will leave as he set out a 5 year plan on what they were theachieve and he estimated they would be a competitive team amongst the best in 3 years so its all looking good to me and tevez is unreal :)

They won't win the title in those five years so there is at least a small chance he'll leave.

Tevez :@

Originally Posted by Went

They are probably rich, I mean, last year they had enough money to pay the teams they were playing against so they wouldn't even attempt to defend to win as many points as possible and get promoted, according to some evidence the police got for a political corruption case the team's owner was involved in- sadly they couldn't use the evidence to relegate them again.

But yeah, if they could pay €200,00 to each player in Cádiz so they would purposedly lose, I guess they have money to hire good players.

Wow, really? I'm surprised at the amount of fixing in other countries.

Originally Posted by Went

Oh ho ho, Barça are losing 0-2 against Hércules XD What a surprise. If Madrid flops as well, we have real chances of getting a jumpstart this season.

Yes, lets have Atletico get a jumpstart and stay top until January with Aguero leading the scoring charts and this will play right into my hands as Man Utd swoop for him. <evil laughter>

3-3 was a shocker today, Ferguson's son threw a game away today as well, Preston went from 3-1 up to 4-3 down in six minutes.

[Infamously]

Real Madrid is up by 1-0 against Osasona. >:[ Though, I have to admit, they are playing better.

[Limey-chan]

There were a few surprisingly pleasing results today.

Man United cocking up a 2-goal lead to Everton in injury time (LOL), Man City being held at home by Blackburn, Blackpool beating Newcastle at SJP and even Barca losing at home to Hercules.

It's been a funny old day for results, but I can't wait for Match of the Day ^^

[sean777]

The mighty glasgow rangers pulled it of again with an 89th minite winner against hamilton to win 1-2 quality from the awsome kenny miller

And the burnley preston game was amazing to go from 1-3 down to winning 4-3 in the last 6 minites is really quite a dramatic epic thing to do.

Man utd threw it all away in the last minite>

And city played out a poor game drawing with blackburn.

And unbelevebly barca got beat by hercules at home

Overall a brilliant day in the word of football with plenty of shockers

[Nuke]

MOTD now to see highlights of this crazy day.

[Limey-chan]

Mikel Arteta <3

Shocking decision by the referee to blow the whistle while Everton were on the attack.

[sean777]

Agreed with limey i so wanted to see united get beat by everton

[Limey-chan]

Loved Blackpool's celebration after their opener, very touching.

I am also enjoying seeing Newcastle getting beaten.

[sean777]

The blackpool keeper gilks played amazing newcastle just couldnt find a way past him.

[Limey-chan]

Good.

LOL @ Rob Green. Just seems to get worse for him.