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So i have no clue about the 2nd gen, as i'm born in 91 and grew up with 1st gen, after that i kinda played other games like WoW coupled with a variety of games in different genres.

Decided to give Pokemon gold a try for the first try and i have no clue about 2nd gen pokemon :/ What Pokemo would you recommend catching early on? Totodile looks coolest so i'm going for him and Hoothoot look interesting. Then there was this senteret i came across which i have no clue about lol.

Btw i have not reached the 1st gym yet and my only pokemons so far is Totodile and Hoothoot. Oh and btw i love the day/night system.
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It really depends on which Pokemon you like best and what your playing style is. I would just catch a bunch of things and try them out.

When I first played Gold, I went with Totodile, and also caught a Hoothoot. Noctowl isn't necessarily the strongest Pokemon, but it's interesting for an early-route bird and less generic than, say, Pidgey. It can learn sleep-inducing moves and some psychic type attacks, in addition to more standard flying fare. I'm not sure if I would stick with it forever (though I did), but it's an interesting choice to use for a while. As for things coming up soon, you could get a Gastly in Sprout Tower in the city where the first gym is, and Mareep is a decent electric type to consider on the route past the first gym. I also like Wooper/Quagsire (Water/Ground, so a water type that's immune to electric), but you already are using Totodile, so you may not want another water type.

Sentret is really versatile, and Furret (its evolved form) can be a good option for HM use. (It can learn Cut, Surf, and Strength.)

There aren't too many fire types for a while. I think you can catch a Growlithe on Route 36 or 37, or maybe a Magmar around when you get the fourth gym badge? As for grass types, you have Bellsprout and Hoppip (between the first and second gym, takes a long time to become useful, starts off with Splash, like Magikarp). For Ground/Rock types, I think you can find Geodude and Onix in a cave after your first gym badge.

Another thing to be aware of for fleshing out your team's movesets is that you can buy a bunch of TMs when you hit the city where the third gym is, including elemental punches (ice, fire, and thunderpunch). They're at the department store (so no game corner coin-buying frustration).
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I would definitely recommend trying out some stuff to see how you like it. Mareep is a great option, especially for the first gym. It's an electric type sheep that becomes a very useful Pokemon. I've always known people to rather enjoy the line, design wise and for using in battle. Really reliable Pokemon. :) Furret is also fun, but it's not super strong. Versatile (and cute!), but not the strongest. I personally love it and (I swear I don't plan this btw) almost always end up using it. I'm playing Crystal at the moment actually and had to force myself to not grab a Sentret at the beginning of the game, haha.

You can get an Eevee after the third gym badge and there are two new evolved forms, Espeon and Umbreon, that have peculiar evolution methods. They evolve from having a high friendship with you, but if that happens during the day, you get Espeon. If it's at night, you get Umbreon. You could probably Google a quick help guide on how to boost happiness/friendship in GSC but just typing "GSC happiness guide." But if you'd rather use an evolution you already know, if you register Schoolboy Alan in your PokeGear, he finds Fire Stones sometimes and will give them to you. It's totally random, but I managed to get one for my Growlithe rather quickly. Lass Dana will find Thunder Stones and give them to you. And there's a Fisherman later that can find you Water Stones, though I imagine you won't need another Water type if you've gotten Totodile.

Uhhhh I'm gonna shut up now and let you take all that in, haha. But if you have further questions, let me know! I'll be happy to help. :) I've played these games a ton of times and as I said before, I'm currently playing through Crystal so a lot of stuff is fresh on my mind right now.

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Thanks for very informative reply!

As to my style i like to have a very "tanky" normal type in my team, yeah i had Snorlax in blue, we all remember him

Then there's 5 more slots available:

Fire: Since i obviously picked Squirtle since it was pokemon BLUE afterall, i don't quite remember i thought i used Vulpix and then picked up Moltres later on

Water/Ice: Since i picked Totodile there's no point in discussing this spot, unless there are some legendaries later in the game that is better? I picked up an Articuno in blue.

Grass: I don't know about gold, i don't think Bellsprout is a very strong pokemon, don't know about Hoppip, but i tend to ignore grass type pokemon's since they all seem to be on the weaker scale.

Electric: Now this is a must have for me, they tend to have low in defense, but the upside is great offense which is amazing. In blue i had Pikachu/Raichu for long And later on picked up a Zaptos.

Ground/Fighting: Geodude is a decent call, but since you can't fully evolve it unless trading it's not really useful in the long run, but might be great in the early game, not sure who to get this spot.

Physcic/Ghost: I prefer Physcic pokemon's over ghost types. I had Mew in Blue since there excisted a Glitch! Don't expect to pick up as strong of a phycic type in gold, but that's cool. Gastly is pretty strong, but again can't evolve it unless trade which is a problem for me.

So there you go, my optimal team would contain:

- Fire Type
- Water Type
- Ground/Fighting Type
- Electric Type
- Phsycic Type
- Normal Type
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If you can't trade to evolve, that is something to take into consideration. For a psychic type, I would highly recommend trying out Espeon (daytime evolution of Eevee, as Ludger mentioned). One thing to be aware of about other evolutions that require evolution stones is that I think the trainers only call you to give you stones in Crystal. In Gold, I think your only option for getting the stones is a lot later in the game, and you only get one of each, so definitely not practical. (You can also get evolution stones from Mystery Gift, but you need a physical cartridge and GBC + another GBC and GSC game or cartridge + N64 + transfer pak + Pokemon Stadium 2 to do that, and the odds are still low. Given that you can't trade, I'm guessing you're not using a setup that would allow you to do mystery gift.)

Ampharos (final stage of Mareep) is a really interesting Electric type in that it doesn't fit the normal electric mold a la Pikachu/Raichu. It isn't that fast, but its defenses aren't bad, and it has a pretty good special attack (if you haven't played since RBY, you should be aware that the special stat split, so some Pokemon have slightly different uses now).

I don't think Vulpix can be found in Gold (Growlithe is the one that's available instead). It'll be a long time before you can evolve a Fire Stone-evolving fire type, most likely, so that's something to be aware of when making your solution. There aren't a ton of great fire types that are jumping to mind for me off-hand (Ponyta/Rapidash can be found at some point, there's Slugma/Magcargo (fairly weak, though), Houndour/Houndoom (part dark, not available till fairly late in the game), and maybe a few others.

Normal types: You can always get a Snorlax again, though you'll have to wait till post-Elite Four, and there's only one available. For a Gold-exclusive, you could look at Ursaring. I don't know if it's as tanky as you're looking for (90/75/75 base stats for HP/Defense/Special Defense), but it's not bad. I can't remember when you can first pick up a Teddiursa, though. Or you could use Miltank, who is pretty tanky (95/105/70 HP/Defense/Special Defense).

For fighting types, you could use any of the Hitmons (Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, or the new Hitmontop), Heracross (part bug type), Mankey/Primeape, Machop/Machoke (trade evolution, though), etc. For ground types, Nidoking/Nidoqueen is always a solid option, and you can get a Nidoran on route 35/36, so fairly early. If you wanted to try out new Pokemon, I'd recommend Donphan, but that's Silver-exclusive, so you need to be able to trade to get one.

You can't get it for a while, so it isn't that practical for the main game, and it takes a long time to train, but Larvitar/Pupitar/Tyranitar is fun to try out. It's sort of the gen II equivalent of Dragonite. It's Rock/Dark, so it doesn't really meet what you said you wanted type-wise, but it's interesting.

One other mechanical thing to be aware of is that the attack DV (I don't know if you ever played competitively in RBY, but if you didn't, think of DVs as genes dictating a Pokemon's potential in each stat) determines gender. For Pokemon that can be either gender (not all male, all female, or genderless), the higher attack DVs are for males and the lower attack DVs are for females. The exact split depends on the gender ratio (e.g., for starters, 1/8 of starters are female, so all female starters have attack DVs in the bottom 1/8 of the scale, i.e., they have really bad attack stats relative to their max). If you're training something that needs a decent attack stat/uses physical attacks, you may be better off picking up male Pokemon in Gold as a result. (This does not apply to newer games, if you decide to play those after playing Gold.)

So I would try Feraligatr/Ampharos/Espeon/Normal type/Fire type/Ground or Fighting type.
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Thanks so much for the reply! I caught Miltank after your suggestion and guess what? It's my new favorite Pokemon!

But i just threw Togepi straight to the data lol, Togepi seem absolutely awful, and i don't care about cuteness!

And also i noticed that this game seem to have a more of a steady progression based on the difficulty of the trainers. For instance the first trainers i met outside of the first rival fight the tgrainers used pokemon in the level range of 2-4, which seemed absurd to me, being used to Pokemon Blue.

But I'm guessing with this that the game has more Gym's and stuff, really looking forward to it.
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Thanks so much for the reply! I caught Miltank after your suggestion and guess what? It's my new favorite Pokemon!

But i just threw Togepi straight to the data lol, Togepi seem absolutely awful, and i don't care about cuteness!

And also i noticed that this game seem to have a more of a steady progression based on the difficulty of the trainers. For instance the first trainers i met outside of the first rival fight the tgrainers used pokemon in the level range of 2-4, which seemed absurd to me, being used to Pokemon Blue.

But I'm guessing with this that the game has more Gym's and stuff, really looking forward to it.
Togetic is kind of eh in this game, but if you move on to generation 4, it gets an evolution, Togekiss, that is a damn good Pokemon. One of my favorites introduced in that generation.

And yeah, that's what a lot of people take issue with in the game, but there is a large post game in Gold, so you have that to look forward to. GSC definitely has the biggest problem with this though. I'm in the town with the 7th gym and the trainers around it have Pokemon still not even at 20. :/ It's rather annoying when I, in my mind, am thinking "oh 7th gym , i should be close to 40" and my Pokemon are barely past 30, and that's only because I took the time to grind. And I'll take the time again to grind some more because that's just me. lol

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Glad you're liking Miltank! And yeah, Togepi/Togetic aren't the best in this game. (As Ludger said, the evolution helps a lot.)

The level pacing on the game can be a little strange at times (there are a couple of abrupt jumps), but you should be fine.
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One thing that still makes Gold/Silver my favourite Pokemon games is that it really encourages playing dirty. The game is fairly limited on really powerful moves you can teach, but is abundant in awesome support moves. Stuff like Leech Seed, Nightmare, Swagger, Attract, and Sleep Powder are really awesome in this game. People always talk about certain fights like how hard Whitney's Miltank is, but that's because most people try to out-muscle it. That fight is super easy to win with the use of status moves like Leech Seed and Nightmare.

My advice for Gold is have a good mixture of battle types. A heavy hitter, a speedy status user, and a bulky defensive Pokemon. I often enjoy taking Typhlosion, Jumpluff and Umbreon.
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