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Old October 5th, 2011 (08:48 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Dr. James:
Hey, you guys, I just want to say that this is a fantastic hack - the best hack of Crystal I've seen so far.

I couldn't stop playing since I downloaded it. Fantastic. Everything from the original Crystal was there. New stuff. New characters. Great.

And yet, I found some mistakes, that could be corrected. Some of them have already been pointed out, but I've got images. :D

I know, probably most of these are already corrected in Beta 3, but if they're not, you should look at them. If you correct these, man, the game would be even better.

So let's see:

Plot holes
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  • When I chose Totodile, Silver also chose it. We advanced through the game and eventually both had Feraligatrs.
  • At the beginning of the game, Silver is named. However, the first time you face him he is still named ??? (probably to follow the original Crystal)
  • After you pick your first Pokemon, Silver said "I'm watching you, Elm." He got confused about this voice, but didn't do anything about it. Shouldn't he look around to see who said that?
  • When leaving Azalea Town, Zane appears and talks to the player, then battles him. After defeating him, Zane leaves and inmediately Silver appears, says nothing, and battles the player. After defeating him, Silver still says something about the Team Rocket, even though he never said anything about them in the first place.
  • Silver wants to destroy Team Rocket, but then joins them.
  • Silver is revealed to be Russell's son -- even though it is known that Silver is Giovainni's son (which a scientist in FireRed confirms).
  • Russell fights with the player to make time until he can get his legendary Pokemon. After the fight, he suddenly wants to be with his son. That change of heart came out from nowhere. At least, he should say something like, "But why? Why can't I have ultimate power? Is power not the answer...? Then what is it?".
  • Brendan comes from Hoenn, battles with the player and gives all of his Pokemon to Elm. With no reason to do all those things.
  • Axel was trying to get to Silver and Russell just because of a McDonald's meal?
  • Even though Blue and Axel are at Cinnabar Island at the same time, neither say anything about each other, even though they're next to one another.

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>> The dude that sells the stones may not look at you when he's speaking (Cerulean City).
>> You can walk in this border in Dragon's Den.
>> You can't active the bike in Cerulean City.
>> The same in Blackthorn City.
>> Saffron City's northern entrance looks different from each way. From below, the exit is around buildings; from above, it's around trees.
>> You can go through these rocks in Dragon's Den.
>> The top of the building (Fuchsia City) uses the wrong tiles.
>> Again, walking in the water in Dragon's Den.
>> When you travel to the past, you get to this Island. If you go to the most top of it, you can see some trees-stuff where just mountain border should be.
>> Minor mistake, should be "No one's". Also, it's would be "No one has done that" instead of "No one's got that".
>> After exiting Fuchsia City from the right entrance, you can actually see the map's end at the other side.
>> Walking in water at Dragon's Den...
>> There's this long staircase in some part of the game (can't remember which one). The first time I played it, the staircase had no end. I walked up like ten minutes until I reset the game. The rest of the times it behave normally.
>> Probably this is intentional, but "See ya later" looks better :P
>> At the south of Fuchsia City, you can see water becomes tree suddenly.
>> Here at Ecruteak's. If you look at the left-top of the image, you see trees' tops, but no trees.
>> When entering this gate to go to Lake Of Rage, you can actually see that there's no road behind it, even though there actually is.
>> Don't make the same mistake the original Crystal did. The northern entrance of Ruins of Alph don't match to what is seen inside. Here you can see that mountain, but there's not entrance, as seen when you enter.
>> Minor corrections: "Well, I"; "you're eager"; "we're doing".
>> Minor thing: It should be "TM03" with no space.
>> Should be something like this: "Well, I should really get going. Prof. Elm, take my Pokemon."
>> That's no Slowpoke's tale! :D
>> On your way to the Pokemon League, you can actually trespass the mountain through the back of the house. You can go all the way up and doing while in the mountain.
>> At mount Silver, you can see this mountain's border with no end.
>> It should be "you're", not "your".
>> It should be, "So, PROF. ELM tells me you're pretty strong. What?!".
>> It's excellent.
>> Can't take out the bike here? (near Mahogany's).
>> Tohjo Falls, walking in water.
>> "You're not".
>> That doesn't quite look like a Gyarados. And it's not red.
>> At the bike route, you can see... well, that.
>> Should be "aloud", not "allowed".
>> There's this guy at the underground caves that just sits there, in the middle of the borders.
>> The top of the Tin Tower can be seen, and it's cut out.
>> There's this girl in the wall, at the SS Aqua.
>> At the bike route, there's reflection, but no water, here.
>> "We're leaving".
>> Check out that rock at the right. Not right.
>> Getting to Fuchsia, there's water here that shouldn't be seen.
>> "Team Static is". Also the arrow doesn't quite fit there.
>> I'm not able to walk there.
>> This place should actually be called "Dragon's Den".
>> The "you'd" doesn't fit.
>> Should be "want to" (not necessarily, but better). "By, Chris". And a point "." should be added at the end.
>> Trees border at Cherrygroove's.
>> Most of Russell's story isn't understood, since his texts are cut-out.
>> After wining Lance, we weren't synced at walking. Then my Pokeballs appeared in mid-air instead of the table.
>> Should be, "In the Pokemon League..."
>> This mountain loses its border in Mt. Silver.
>> Can't take out my bike when going to see Red.
>> Once more, it should be "you're".
>> Here at the Pokemon League, at the right, you can see the trees where the mountain should continue.
>> This is the same mistake the original G/S/C did. You see that ledge below the other ledge? If you jump, you can actually stand ON the ledge below! That shouldn't happen!
>> At Ecruteak's, you can see the map ends beside the gate.
>> Entering the Pokemon League through Kanto, see that mountain at the top with no border.
>> At Mt. Silver, you can jump to the Pokemon Center.
>> Some mistakes here. Should be: "And how did you get here? You must have beaten the ELITE FOUR!".
>> Axel here tells you to go and find some switches. If you talk to him after he says that, the game freezes.
>> Entering the League shows this orange line on top of the doors.
>> At the new path near the Union cave you can see this trees where mountain should be, if you stand there.
>> Again, at Ecruteak. You can see the map ends.
>> At Pallet, if you surf to it, you can see the water border remnants on the tree until you walk away and return.
>> More punctuation. "I said leave! These are important matters, not for you!".
>> Again, walking on water here (Mt. Silver).
>> This happened at me when I beat this guy at Silph's. Everything glitched up, I had to reset. Next time, it didn't happen.
>> Going to the league, you can't take out your bike.
>> South entrance of Ruins of Alph, you can see that there's no Ruins of Alph at the right of the gate.
>> Entering Ecruteak's, you can see that the map ends.
>> If you surf here you can skip the guy that says that the ship will not be departing today.
>> Two mistakes here: it should be "Just you wait. This..." Also, when I came to this cave through the underground, this guy wasn't here. I exited and entered and the guy appeared.
>> There's this rock, half one kind and half another.
>> The dark sea ends. The border should be dark sea, not light sea.
>> Minor mistake: "that, kid." (after battling Zapdos).
>> This brown walls don't seem right.
>> Here at the Battle tower, these trees are where mountain should continue.
>> Should be "too".
>> Invisible stuff here.
>> Here at Route 14, see those trees. Those aren't right.
>> At Bill's cave, you can trespass this wall and go to other places.
>> Minor thing: "What's".
>> There's an extra space at the start of the sentence.
>> At Ruins of Alph, you can see the map ends at the other side of the gate.
>> At Olivine's Gym, there's the arrow beside the carpet, inside of below.
>> That "i" should be "I".
>> At the Orange Island, you can walk in the northern sea.
>> Shouldn't be "TEAM ROCKET"?
>> There's some reflection where there's no water.
>> At Bill's cave, you can trespass this, too.
>> This appears when entering Route 27.
>> Entering Ruins of Alph northern gate you can see the map ends.
>> In Route 4, you can see this mountain with no end.
>> Again, "you're".
>> At Mt. Silver, you can jump on top of this guy.
>> The Hidden Power dude looks away while he's talking to you.
>> Here at Vermilion's: you can see trees where water should be, and there's this dude at the north-left corner.
>> Again, reflection on the ground.
>> Same as before.
>> Just trees where Saffron should be.
>> This scientist speaks of Team Aqua. But Team Static is the problem here. Also, he doesn't face you while speaking.
>> Should be "That's".
>> The Pokemap dislpays the Sprout tower as being there. But it's not.
>> The mountains border just stops there.
>> If you go to a corner of a Pokemart, this graphical glitch is shown.
>> You can walk here, at the underground caves.
>> You can hardly see it, but the roof of the Safari Zone is cut out.
>> Once more, the reflection on non-water.
>> Should be "MR. FUJI, CHRIS, but there's..."
>> I assume this is a remnant of FireRed. Email to Oak on Elm's lab?
>> "Something's".
>> Here, at the underground. Whenever I go to the left and right, this door and dude disappear.
>> When this girl appears, she hands off an item, but talks as she walks away.
>> Sometimes, when it snows, it comes down as black snow.
>> Two things: "yourself, Bob" and "earlier". Also, the player just steals those fossils? Who is he, Red?
>> Don't know if this is gonna be in the final version, but it should be, again, "you're".
>> At the casino, this guy sells out cities!
>> After beating Lance for the second time, we entered the Hall Of Fame's room, and in the darkness Lance spoke out his dialogue again.
>> That mountain's border corner isn't right.
>> Can't surf in that space. I should be able.
>> Invisible thing here.
>> Reflection on the ground.
>> "i" should be "I".
>> You can see that the road ends below the gate, here at Route 46, when in fact it doesn't.
>> Should be "its resting place". Also, it should be "it's trying".
>> The player's sprite in the middle of the building.
>> This dude that appears sometimes may walk inside the little bushes.
>> The small tree suddenly appears when you step into Route 2.
>> The Egg the daycare man gave to me turned out to be a Bad Egg.
>> After Ivy left, I entered the mart again and her dialog played again, but she wasn't there.
>> Can't use the bike near Ivy's lab?
>> In Vermilion's, you can see trees where water should be.
>> Should be "world's".
>> The mountain border becomes trees.
>> This fat man who leaves near Viridian's Forest is on top of this table when you enter.
>> Saffron's southern gate doesn't match to what it's seen inside.
>> Should be "I've".
>> The trees border is not synced to the actual trees of the route.
>> The dude that gave the Squirtle, should say "You're".
>> "We're".
>> You can walk on the bushes on Route 46.
>> "You're".
>> The player's body appears on top of the tree, instead of behind it.
>> Should be, "You never would have seen that coming!".
>> That girl appears from nowhere when entering Lavender's.
>> The mountain's border continues like that. That's not right. Also, the other mountain at the top abruptly ends.
>> Had to talk to Axel two times here. The first time I exited without getting the Dratini, the second time I got it. Axel was there both times and said the same things.
>> When Silver left here at Olivine's, he pushed me on top of the plant.
>> Here at Route 3, you can see those mountains with cut-out borders.
>> Should be "to collect".
>> Minor thingy here: "Hey, mister. Are".
>> A strange part of the tree stands where the rail should be.
>> The border (trees) is visible where mountain should be.
>> The trees end that way here, at the north of Vermilion's.
>> There are some whirlpools, like the one here (going to the League), that I can go through without using the actual move.
>> Can't take out the bike at Pallet's.
>> The Team Rocket's at the Radio Tower, and this girl says nothing about it. Also, where's Buena?
>> "Time" doesn't fit there.
>> I can't talk to this guard, which in the southern gate of Saffron's.
>> Axel should say, "would have".
>> Can't take out my bike in New Bark Town.
>> AHH!! THIS GUY!! At Rocket's Hideout in Magohany's! I spoke to him, and the screen turned purple! The game crashed! I had to reset. I warn you: this guy's a mess!
>> Mountain without ending here at Route 4.
>> Here at the Orange Islands, there's water there.
>> Typo: "POKEMON" should be "Pokémon".
>> Should be "you're".
>> Those trees' top and the mountain's border, aren't right.
>> The player is seen on top, instead of behind of, these Pokemon Gym's statues.
>> When entering this cave, you can see at the top that the mountain borders suddenly stop (the border is seen).
>> "program" doesn't fit there.
>> "i've" should be "I've".
>> I can't walk in that part.
>> This dude doesn't see me when he's speaking.
>> Reflection on the ground.
>> Hey, that's rough. But it should be "guy's face".
>> Should be "You're from JOHTO, right?".
>> "I should have known".
>> Should be "well, you". Also, there's an extra point at the end of the first sentence.
>> Typo: should be "POKéMON".
>> Should be, "Good luck, STEVE! We're...".
>> "I would have thought of someone as strong as yourself had wiped out...".
>> "Boys", not "boy's".
>> "You're".
>> Walking here on water.


Minor things
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  • There's actually a "..." symbol. You don't have to put three dots to write that.


Ahh, I'm tired. Well, that's it... I hope you check out these things so the hack can be better. I'm sure it will be.

Good luck!
Thanks very very much for this post. It will help a lot :)

UPDATE: LC has resumed! My university is so awesome on wednesday afternoon we have "Games Academy" where we can work on developing any of our own games projects whuich are not linked to the university. That is now my weekly LC time. today i fixed 4 bugs on the list of 60 things.

Also, keep it chilled in here. No arguments or rants or fights about stuff i have no idea what its about. I know people are anxious for a release but you should know i'm 20 years old, have a life and am studying computer games development which is one of the/if not the most work heavey programming course at my university. Just hang on and i will stick to my word. My word was 2011.
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Old October 5th, 2011 (09:36 AM).
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That's great man! It's great when things work out like that!
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Old October 5th, 2011 (10:32 AM).
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Quote originally posted by linkandzelda:
Thanks very very much for this post. It will help a lot
Of course, man! It's a pleasure to help in things like these!

By the way, I noticed the images of my post weren't displaying, so I re-uploaded them all and I put them again. So check my post now, and you'll be able to see all the mistakes I found

See ya!

PS. By the way, guys, stop being rude and childish here.
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Old October 5th, 2011 (03:12 PM).
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Just another quick update: freind of mine 04zaz recently started a playthrough of beta 3.1 in its current state. If you want to check the latest addidtions and to see how the game is, then heres the video.



Link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ZOUHeeGcM

Make sure that if you want to recive the latest views of the beta then subscribe to 04zaz. I'm pretty sure he will be uploading a couple of videos per week for everyone to watch.

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Hey, it looks fantastic! Keep up the good work!

I see that you fixed the gate of Route 46. Now you can see road behind it! Great (*one of the mistakes I found is being crossed out*).

About something... now the DUDE is an old man? How weird!

By the way, the tutorial of the old man that gives you the MAP CARD is great, but the player doesn't quite follow him. He stands at the right of the old man while walking. I don't know how "easy" that would be to correct...

Anyway, great game! I'll be among the first ones to play it when it is released!
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Quote originally posted by Dr. James:
Hey, it looks fantastic! Keep up the good work!

I see that you fixed the gate of Route 46. Now you can see road behind it! Great (*one of the mistakes I found is being crossed out*).

About something... now the DUDE is an old man? How weird! :)

By the way, the tutorial of the old man that gives you the MAP CARD is great, but the player doesn't quite follow him. He stands at the right of the old man while walking. I don't know how "easy" that would be to correct...

Anyway, great game! I'll be among the first ones to play it when it is released!
The DUDE is an old man becuase i thought it would be better to have it as an old man during the time theres no DUDe backsprites.

Also, that following would be very easy its a script left over from ebta 3.0, one of the quick fixes of mine to get it working with the new maps size.
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Ah, fantastic then! Now I understand the old DUDE purpose. Perfect!

Can't wait to see the end of the story! Great game!
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Old October 6th, 2011 (10:08 AM).
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Just want to say thank you for making this hack. Actually no. Thank you for making this GAME!!! It is one of the best ones so far. Keep up the good work.
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Does Kadabra evolve by leveling up? If so, at which level?
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Does Kadabra evolve by leveling up? If so, at which level?
Kadabra evolves in alakazam at level 60 if I am not mistaken, mine did anyways (:
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Does Kadabra evolve by leveling up? If so, at which level?
If I remember correctly, it evolves at level 60. Same with Machoke, Graveler, and Haunter. Although it might have changed since I last checked, but either way, it will take a while...
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Old October 8th, 2011 (05:33 AM).
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Ah well it doesn't matter anymore. Game got all f*'ed up again. In the Silph basement, suddenly half of the screen is black and the tiles are messed up and I can't go anywhere, nor can I get out with the escape rope, so I'm stuck again.

I had to start a new game after it froze in the dragon den, and now this. I think I'll just give up on this hack.
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Old October 8th, 2011 (01:08 PM).
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Amazing hack of FireRed, This is one of my favorite hacks. and Is this the final version?
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Old October 8th, 2011 (02:30 PM).
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Ah well it doesn't matter anymore. Game got all f*'ed up again. In the Silph basement, suddenly half of the screen is black and the tiles are messed up and I can't go anywhere, nor can I get out with the escape rope, so I'm stuck again.
I think you mean this mistake:



Because yes, that happened to me too, as seen in my list of mistakes.
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Old October 8th, 2011 (04:39 PM).
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Ah well it doesn't matter anymore. Game got all f*'ed up again. In the Silph basement, suddenly half of the screen is black and the tiles are messed up and I can't go anywhere, nor can I get out with the escape rope, so I'm stuck again.

I had to start a new game after it froze in the dragon den, and now this. I think I'll just give up on this hack.
Just wait for the new beta that will come out before years end.
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Old October 11th, 2011 (07:10 AM). Edited October 11th, 2011 by ~DarkAchu~.
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How far does this current beta go to, And how far will the 3.1 one go to.

Only asking because of future playthroughs of this Hack on Youtube and if i should wait or just go ahead and start.
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Old October 11th, 2011 (12:13 PM).
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Quote originally posted by ~DarkAchu~:
How far does this current beta go to, And how far will the 3.1 one go to.

Only asking because of future playthroughs of this Hack on Youtube and if i should wait or just go ahead and start.
In this beta you can get all 16 gym badges, plus get one from the orange islands, but it also has some freezing scripts near dragon's den, so I'd wait for 3.1
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Ah well it doesn't matter anymore. Game got all f*'ed up again. In the Silph basement, suddenly half of the screen is black and the tiles are messed up and I can't go anywhere, nor can I get out with the escape rope, so I'm stuck again.

I had to start a new game after it froze in the dragon den, and now this. I think I'll just give up on this hack.
TO ALL THOSE STUCK IN SILPH BASEMENT:

what i did was i activated the walk through walls cheat on gameshark and kept walking around. eventually i ran into those guys. I was lucky maybe, but no harm in trying it yea?
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Old October 13th, 2011 (02:29 PM).
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Are you gonna change the gym leaders overworlds? Cause alot of them don't match. You see Koga's overworld when it supposed to be an overworld of Falkner. I know it not that big, but it kinda annoys me.
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Hey, LAZ in a beta or final version you should have a celebi to you back in time and battle Giovanni. Tell me what you think
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Old October 16th, 2011 (03:57 AM).
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I think this was the first hack I ever played - I was enthralled by it, all up till the Silver battle that killed my game. Still a great hack, though. I like the way the battle system looks.
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Old October 16th, 2011 (10:03 AM).
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I will definitely be Nuzlocking this when the new beta comes out.
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Old October 16th, 2011 (10:51 AM).
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Old October 17th, 2011 (07:27 AM). Edited October 17th, 2011 by JoshRyanJordan.
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I have a question to ask: Will I be able to capture starter pokemon like Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charmander, Torchic, Mudkip, or Treeco in Liquid Crystal? If so, then where can I catch them?
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Quote originally posted by JoshRyanJordan:
I have a question to ask: Will I be able to capture starter pokemon like Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charmander, Torchic, Mudkip, or Treeco in Liquid Crystal? If so, then where can I catch them?
I know a way, but it involves editing the save file. It's really simple, too.! You can use it to get ANY pokemon you want, edit it's attacks, change the effort and individual values to the max, (so it's stronger than usual), You cannot however, edit what items you have... If you want to download it, go here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=249554
Other than that, I don't believe you can receive the starters you mentioned without cheating or some sort of event.
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