FireRed hack: Pokémon: Liquid Crystal [3.3.xxxxx Live Beta]

[Suicune™]

The First Orange Island after you defeat Red.

Originally Posted by CrimsonK

I don't mean to rain on your parade, LaZ, but wouldn't it be best to just put the moves back to the way they were? (Hey, it worked for the original Crystal, didn't it?)

The Physical/Special split is a neat idea, but even if it worked, it would still make things unbalanced since it took the addition of a lot of moves in the 4th gen to make up for the switch.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of the split in a third gen game. But, in order to make it work, you'd probably have to add a lot of 4th gen moves and restructure many pokes' movesets to match them. That's a LOT of time and effort...

Regardless, I was wondering if you could make a patch for those who don't want a split at all? I would really like to be able to use my Golem and having Ice Punch for a Slowking would be really nice...

I agree with this but I still have to give credit for creating a physical/special split for 3rd gen. It's entirely up to you.. it is your hack after all.

[CrimsonK]

Originally Posted by konsiracy

Is it possible to build a rom port from the actual soul silver game? I mean if you can cut out all the second screen stuff that would rock.

Yeah... There are Soul Silver roms out there and DS emulators for them...
You can go get one if you like, though I am not advising it.

I kind of like the feel of Liquid Crystal, though. Soul Silver just felt... off. Too soft and colorful, if that makes any sense. Kind of dumbed down. And there were certain things I didn't like about it, like what they did with the Goldenrod Casino, for one thing.

[Gamerboy7991]

When we download the Live Beta one, does it automatically update or do we have to keep on downloading it over and over again? I'm kinda confused

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by Gamerboy7991

When we download the Live Beta one, does it automatically update or do we have to keep on downloading it over and over again? I'm kinda confused

I'll answer for LaZ since he used me to test the live beta system
You'll need to redownload and reapply the patch, but you will NOT need to start a fresh game. A gamesave you have made should be fully compatible with any changes that he, Zeikku or myself make to the ROM.

However - don't save in an area where there is a bug - make sure you save in a room with no bugs. Your room in New Bark Town is a good place, since all that's there is a level script which gets disabled as soon as you start the game.

One thing - DO NOT USE SAVE STATES. It causes major problems with one of the hacks which were applied to the ROM. Just a friendly all round warning.

[lukasz_pro]

where is HM 02 Fly ?
i have all HM's without this one :E

[Nintendork15]

Originally Posted by lukasz_pro

where is HM 02 Fly ?
i have all HM's without this one :E

Talk to the lady outside Cianwood city gym.

She gives you fly, after you have the badge.

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How come when i enter the PokeMarts, all I can buy is HM02.

[Gamerboy7991]

Can you catch a Mudkip in Union Cave or in this game at all? I need to know because If you can catch Mudkip I'll choose Cyndiquil and if you can't I'm picking Totodile.

[ase]

Originally Posted by Gamerboy7991

Can you catch a Mudkip in Union Cave or in this game at all? I need to know because If you can catch Mudkip I'll choose Cyndiquil and if you can't I'm picking Totodile.

I don't think you can actually do that... (IIRC, that was for SG)

[Gamerboy7991]

Originally Posted by Jambo51

I'll answer for LaZ since he used me to test the live beta system
You'll need to redownload and reapply the patch, but you will NOT need to start a fresh game. A gamesave you have made should be fully compatible with any changes that he, Zeikku or myself make to the ROM.

However - don't save in an area where there is a bug - make sure you save in a room with no bugs. Your room in New Bark Town is a good place, since all that's there is a level script which gets disabled as soon as you start the game.

One thing - DO NOT USE SAVE STATES. It causes major problems with one of the hacks which were applied to the ROM. Just a friendly all round warning.

Do I need to re-apply the patch to another clean Firered rom?

[lukasz_pro]

can some one understand those words on cave walls ? this probadly leads to some legendary pokes but i dont know how interpret this :<

[Gamerboy7991]

Originally Posted by lukasz_pro

can some one understand those words on cave walls ? this probadly leads to some legendary pokes but i dont know how interpret this :<

Look it up on Youtube. I done that wall thing before but I forgot how. It just leads to to a cave with unknown in it.

[konsiracy]

Originally Posted by CrimsonK

Yeah... There are Soul Silver roms out there and DS emulators for them...
You can go get one if you like, though I am not advising it.

I kind of like the feel of Liquid Crystal, though. Soul Silver just felt... off. Too soft and colorful, if that makes any sense. Kind of dumbed down. And there were certain things I didn't like about it, like what they did with the Goldenrod Casino, for one thing.

No see ds emulators are for the computer only I want a gba version of soul silver. That way I can play it on my android device my psp or the wii

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by konsiracy

No see ds emulators are for the computer only I want a gba version of soul silver. That way I can play it on my android device my psp or the wii

Lemme get this straight - You want us to port SoulSilver to the GBA, remove the touch screen stuff, completely downgrade the engine so it can RUN on GBA, downgrade the music so it can be played on GBA - all so you can play it on your phone or Wii?

Buy a DS!

Worst thing is - it'd still be vastly inferior to LC!

Originally Posted by Gamerboy7991

Do I need to re-apply the patch to another clean Firered rom?

Yes, you do. However, the dev team of LC, as well as myself - hence why i'm adopting it for the 649 Patch starting from the next release, think it will be a good way to go from now on as it means all these bugs getting reported will be fixed and the fixes will be immediately available to the playing public.

[Lucario14]

the game keeps freezing when a pokemon evolves so i have to restart the game. how can i fix this?

[konsiracy]

Originally Posted by Jambo51

Lemme get this straight - You want us to port SoulSilver to the GBA, remove the touch screen stuff, completely downgrade the engine so it can RUN on GBA, downgrade the music so it can be played on GBA - all so you can play it on your phone or Wii?

Buy a DS!

Worst thing is - it'd still be vastly inferior to LC!



Yes, you do. However, the dev team of LC, as well as myself - hence why i'm adopting it for the 649 Patch starting from the next release, think it will be a good way to go from now on as it means all these bugs getting reported will be fixed and the fixes will be immediately available to the playing public.

Well I have built android from source and messed around in a few kernels so I know browsing through layers of code can be difficult. I also know very little about modding gba or ds roms but one would think you have to be about at the limit of the fire red engine. I mean yall have been working on this rom for years, so you tell me.... How much fire is left in the fire red engine? What about the emerald engine? I mean with the DS being were all of nintendos dev action at, can yall continuously port all the changes to the new moves and skills to the fire red engine without problems?

Honestly though this has to be one of the only hacks that has had so much popularity and is actually looking like its gonna be finished. { I think we are all tired of playing unfinished roms } You should also have paypal donation links so we can donate a couple bucks here and there. I wouldnt mind buying yall a beer or soda or whatever......

Thanks for your time and patients,

[Gamerboy7991]

Does the PokeGear work because I want to re-battle these trainers but it keeps on saying that there are no trainers within range even when I'm really close to them.

[konsiracy]

Originally Posted by Gamerboy7991

Does the PokeGear work because I want to re-battle these trainers but it keeps on saying that there are no trainers within range even when I'm really close to them.

I have used it like 6 times around golden rod.
Im temp. gonna stop playing untill the special attack thing is fixed because its killing the game hard core.

[Zeikku™]

Originally Posted by konsiracy

Well I have built android from source and messed around in a few kernels so I know browsing through layers of code can be difficult. I also know very little about modding gba or ds roms but one would think you have to be about at the limit of the fire red engine. I mean yall have been working on this rom for years, so you tell me.... How much fire is left in the fire red engine? What about the emerald engine? I mean with the DS being were all of nintendos dev action at, can yall continuously port all the changes to the new moves and skills to the fire red engine without problems?

Honestly though this has to be one of the only hacks that has had so much popularity and is actually looking like its gonna be finished. { I think we are all tired of playing unfinished roms } You should also have paypal donation links so we can donate a couple bucks here and there. I wouldnt mind buying yall a beer or soda or whatever......

Thanks for your time and patients,

Not a lot of Fire Red's engine still exists, there's a lot different. The only think I can think of is the intro movie and a few of the in-game similarities.

As for porting a DS game, it's simply not possible - I develop for Android so you'd know the difference between GPU's and how some games simply cannot be ported despite being on the same or similar platform. Let me just say that the GBA only runs 16-32bit colour games, DS runs 256 colours natively. Liquid Crystal is a lot better that HG/ SS. I'm not going to lie; over half these bugs people are reporting look like they're being caused by using the wrong emulator..but I'll have a look.

However; donations seems good only because I broke my touchpad on release day and need to get it fixed. Donatations aren't needed though.

[konsiracy]

Originally Posted by Zeikku™

Not a lot of Fire Red's engine still exists, there's a lot different. The only think I can think of is the intro movie and a few of the in-game similarities.

As for porting a DS game, it's simply not possible - I develop for Android so you'd know the difference between GPU's and how some games simply cannot be ported despite being on the same or similar platform. Let me just say that the GBA only runs 16-32bit colour games, DS runs 256 colours natively. Liquid Crystal is a lot better that HG/ SS. I'm not going to lie; over half these bugs people are reporting look like they're being caused by using the wrong emulator..but I'll have a look.

However; donations seems good only because I broke my touchpad on release day and need to get it fixed. Donatations aren't needed though.

Yes unfortunately i do Understand the difference. Try getting hardware acceleration to work in Ice Cream Sandwich with an adreno 205

Well put up a paypal donation link

[lukasz_pro]

im stuck on orange island , i taked GS ball from ivy and i must give this for oak , but all the time guard tells " u missed the last train " , and the gym is empty

[Gamerboy7991]

You guys should fix how the Eevee looks because it's right eye looks like it's deformed

[pirateof7sea]

Where do you get EXP Share since the Pikachu from Lake of Rage gone?

[Nintendork15]

How does Eevee evolve into Espeon or Umbreon?
It's at level 55 now, and it hasn't evolved, shouldn't it be happy enough yet?
It is happyness right?
Also, Don't think anyone answered, what music was used for Zane's battle theme

[Gamerboy7991]

Originally Posted by Nintendork15

How does Eevee evolve into Espeon or Umbreon?
It's at level 55 now, and it hasn't evolved, shouldn't it be happy enough yet?
It is happyness right?
Also, Don't think anyone answered, what music was used for Zane's battle theme

I don't know if there is Day or Night, but I think you need to have maximum happiness and need to level it up at either day or night.