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  #51    
Old May 16th, 2011, 12:58 PM
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How do you use the Seasons editor?? I put the offset and it said it had been inserted but they didn't work anywhere. Do I need a script? How does the Seasons Header work aswell??
It's a BRILLIANT tool, the day and night works GREAT but the seasons don't work anywhere.

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EDIT: I'm using a Fire Red ROM (BPRE)

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Old May 16th, 2011, 01:04 PM
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Hmm... so will this work?

Code:
#dynamic 0x[FSF Offset]
#org @start
compare 0x[RTC Var] 0x0
if 0x1 goto @sunday
...
#org @sunday
msgbox @sunday2 0x2
end

#org @sunday2
= It's a Sunday.
Yeah, that should work. I don't know if this tool designates a "RTC Var" but if you can find where the data is stored, you can use it with either 'compare' or 'comparefarbytetobyte'.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 01:46 AM
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Script working, check.
Now if someone can post the RTC Variable, that would be cool. :D
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Old May 19th, 2011, 08:19 AM
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There isn't a RTC variable. You have to create your own with an ASM-script or you have to use comparefarbytetobyte and the RTC offset.

@wildbeast
You have to add some tilesetoffsets in the Boxes under the Seasons. I have made a tutorial how to use the Seasonseditor but it's written in german so it would not help you...
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Old May 19th, 2011, 09:50 AM
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There isn't a RTC variable. You have to create your own with an ASM-script or you have to use comparefarbytetobyte and the RTC offset.
Can you post an example? I don't know how to use comparefarbytetobyte...?

comparefarbytetobyte [pointer] [byte] - ok i know that, but where should I write RTC offset?
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Old May 19th, 2011, 10:09 AM
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Code:
[...]
comparefarbytetobyte 0x03005540 0x1
if 0x1 goto @ok
[...]

#org @ok
msgbox @txt 0x6
end

#org @txt = It's the 1st.
you can see the RTC-RAM-offset under the textbox with the RTC-script-offset...
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Old May 19th, 2011, 11:15 AM
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Code:
[...]
comparefarbytetobyte 0x03005540 0x1
if 0x1 goto @ok
[...]

#org @ok
msgbox @txt 0x6
end

#org @txt = It's the 1st.
you can see the RTC-RAM-offset under the textbox with the RTC-script-offset...
Ah...Ok, i know everything now...Great thanks, I was think that, posted [pointer] is like pointer in script (@something) :D

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Old May 19th, 2011, 12:20 PM
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There isn't a RTC variable. You have to create your own with an ASM-script or you have to use comparefarbytetobyte and the RTC offset.

@wildbeast
You have to add some tilesetoffsets in the Boxes under the Seasons. I have made a tutorial how to use the Seasonseditor but it's written in german so it would not help you...
I got the HEX offset 002D4A94 for the main outdoor tileset from A-Map. When I inserted it into the 'Offset' box and pressed "Write Season changes to ROM" I got this error message: h**p://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4480/dnsediterrormessage.png
(Soz i can't post links :cer_shifty

Am I doing something wrong :cer_confused:?

I have read the tutorial for the season editor but it didn't make much sense to me.....probably because I put it into a translator :\

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Old May 21st, 2011, 01:18 AM
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I think you just have to leave out the '8' from the offset becuase thetool automatically adds 0x8000000.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 04:46 PM
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For anyone who is using BPRE, these routines will use the RTC's status byte to get what time of day it is, and evolve Eevee accordingly.

For Espeon:
Code:
.text
.align 2
.thumb
.thumb_func
.global espeonevocheck
main:
 ldr r1, time
 ldrb r1, [r1, #0x0]
 cmp r1, #0x4
 bge no
 cmp r1, #0x1
 blt no
 ldr r1, happinesscheck
 bx r1
no: ldr r0, exit
 bx r0
.align
time: .word 0x0203C000
happinesscheck: .word 0x08043001
exit: .word 0x08043111
Assemble and insert that routine anywhere in the ROM, then change the pointer at 0x42FC8 to point to the new routine, NOT PLUS ONE. The game uses mov pc, r0 to jump to the routine, meaning we do NOT need to add 1 for THUMB mode.

For Umbreon:
Code:
.text
.align 2
.thumb
.thumb_func
.global umbreonevocheck
main:
 ldr r1, time
 ldrb r1, [r1, #0x0]
 cmp r1, #0x4
 bge yes
 cmp r1, #0x1
 blt yes
 ldr r0, exit
 bx r0
yes: ldr r1, happinesscheck
 bx r1
.align
time: .word 0x0203C000
happinesscheck: .word 0x08043001
exit: .word 0x08043111
Assemble and insert that routine anywhere in the ROM, then change the pointer at 0x42FCC to point to the new routine, NOT PLUS ONE.

When assembled, along side the RTC, this will allow Eevee to evolve into Espeon and Umbreon in the proper way in BPRE. Anyone who wants to convert these routines for another version, feel free to do so. Just remember to credit me for the original routines.

For people who don't know how to assemble the routines, I attached the binaries to this post, allowing you to insert them from the binary directly. I offer no help on inserting these routines. You should read HackMew's ASM tutorials for a good beginner's insight into inserting ASM.
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Old May 23rd, 2011, 03:39 PM
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Also, to the author of this tool. I highly recommend adding that into the patcher. A D/N System just isn't complete without Espeon and Umbreon. Just be sure to ask Jambo51 first. To Jambo51: Interesting! I'm just curios as to how exactly that works. Maybe just a small explanation.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 07:02 AM
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Also, to the author of this tool. I highly recommend adding that into the patcher. A D/N System just isn't complete without Espeon and Umbreon. Just be sure to ask Jambo51 first. To Jambo51: Interesting! I'm just curios as to how exactly that works. Maybe just a small explanation.
All they do is compare the status byte of the Day and Night system and compare it with values which should be day or night.

I reasoned that status bytes 0, 4 and 5 would be night, while the rest would be day. There are 2 separate ones because the original ROM uses 2 separate ones. If it is the right time of day, the routine branches to the actual happiness evolution check already in the rom at 0x08043000.
If the time is "wrong" it branches to a routine which skips to read the next entry of the Pokémon's evolution data.

While it was designed for Espeon and Umbreon, it will work with any Pokémon in the game.

To port for other versions of BPR, you simply need to find the evolution types table, and replace the branches in my routines with appropriate branches for your version of the ROM.

@Prime - If you want to include it in your tool, feel free. Just credit me for the original routine. That's all I ask. :D

Also, If you wouldn't mind... Could I include a working version of your DAN in my patch i'm making? I'm creating a 649 Pokémon patch, and I have managed to include all the evolution types currently available. The thing is, a lot of them rely on the time, which isn't in a standard FR rom. So without the RTC, the routines will always think it's night time and people will complain that the routines don't work.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 05:32 AM
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Great going, Jambo51. Your 649 patch is pretty cool and what better way to cool-ify it more than to integrate it with another cool concept, right? :D

In my opinion, prime-dialga's DNS is the best RTC program that all others before it, 'cause this one is easier to use, and it has Seasons (perfect for a BW Demake). The 649 patch plus the DNS in a great hack would be like playing DS in a GBA... minus the touchscreen. XD

Here's to success for the both of you! Cheers!
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Old June 7th, 2011, 01:28 AM
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Great going, Jambo51. Your 649 patch is pretty cool and what better way to cool-ify it more than to integrate it with another cool concept, right? :D

In my opinion, prime-dialga's DNS is the best RTC program that all others before it, 'cause this one is easier to use, and it has Seasons (perfect for a BW Demake). The 649 patch plus the DNS in a great hack would be like playing DS in a GBA... minus the touchscreen. XD

Here's to success for the both of you! Cheers!
The RTC/DNS is actually a requirement of the patch, in many ways. A lot of gen 4's evo types rely on the time of day, which is something the standard rom doesn't have. But I refuse to include someone else's work within my patch without the OK to do so. The exception to that, of course, being sprites which I will give credit for.
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Old June 9th, 2011, 01:16 AM
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Darn, I can't understand anything going on, with all the bytes the tool gives me. Can anyone PLEEEAAASSE post an example of a script that reads the year, month, day, day of the week, etc...

Oh, and how do I read a specific byte in an offset? diegoisawesome tells me to read the byte then buffer the correct day of the week number. The tool that "the time will be written to 0300553C", but it also says that year will be 2 bytes, month will be 1 byte, blah blah blah. Okay, how do I read a SPECIFIC byte?

Please help. :l .................
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Old June 12th, 2011, 07:26 AM
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This tool doesn't work for me. Does anyone know why?
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Old June 13th, 2011, 02:10 AM
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This tool doesn't work for me. Does anyone know why?
Hmm, what OS do you run on your computer? It's either you're on XP without the proper .NET Framework, or I don't know.
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Old June 13th, 2011, 08:27 AM
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Hmm, what OS do you run on your computer? It's either you're on XP without the proper .NET Framework, or I don't know.
I can run it on my computer. xD
What I mean is that the environment doesn't look any different when I play the rom. Is their something I'm doing wrong? Because I did insert them.
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Old June 13th, 2011, 11:36 AM
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@Chimchar 9
maybe you haven't inserted the Offsets of the Tileset, where you want to use the Seasons, or the VBA-RTC isn't eneabled...

@Jambo51
I'm working on a better version of this tool with some bugfixes (like Em-2 vs. 2-Trainerbattles) and some new features, if it'll work. Therefore i don't give anyone any permission to add this tool or a patch, created with this tool, in another tool. Please wait until i have released the second version of this tool and the DNS-System.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 01:51 AM
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@Chimchar 9
maybe you haven't inserted the Offsets of the Tileset, where you want to use the Seasons, or the VBA-RTC isn't eneabled...

@Jambo51
I'm working on a better version of this tool with some bugfixes (like Em-2 vs. 2-Trainerbattles) and some new features, if it'll work. Therefore i don't give anyone any permission to add this tool or a patch, created with this tool, in another tool. Please wait until i have released the second version of this tool and the DNS-System.
No problem. :D The only question I ask here is will it still use the same status byte system? Obviously, it helps to know that so I can rewrite the evolution routines if I need to.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 02:32 AM
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If you're working on a new version, I'd really like to see the ability to swap tilesets between night and day (not all 5 or 6 times, though). I tried to do this myself with some success, but it bugged up the whole system.

Main reason for wanting this is... well, darkening the screen is all fine and well, but if you really want to capture the essence of night, you need lit up windows and lights You really do.

So what I'd really want to see is the ability to switch tilesets at a certain time (similar to the seasons, yeah). What I could then do is apply the RGB effect to all but one colour in the palletes and always use that colour for light (So that it's not dimmed at night). Would really be great and could make for some brilliant story scenes~
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Old June 17th, 2011, 09:37 AM
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I have a slight question. I got the seasons inserted and all that but I can't figure out how to have the game automatically update the tilesets to change in accordance with the seasons. When done manually it works but I'm looking for a way to do it within the game.

Would I have to load a level script that loads the new tileset/pallet? If so what command would I use?
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Old June 17th, 2011, 02:12 PM
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@Paupir
sry, i didn't want to add such a feature in a public version.

@Jambo51
I think it will still use the same Statusbytesystem, but probably the offsets of the pointers in the routines will change.

@Quilava's Master
Tools->Season Header Editor
This will help you to edit the Seasonheader and with this, you can change the Tileset.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 07:14 PM
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@Paupir
sry, i didn't want to add such a feature in a public version.

@Jambo51
I think it will still use the same Statusbytesystem, but probably the offsets of the pointers in the routines will change.

@Quilava's Master
Tools->Season Header Editor
This will help you to edit the Seasonheader and with this, you can change the Tileset.
I've done this but when I change the date on my computer the tileset changes don't take affect in the overworld.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 10:41 PM
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Something I think would be pretty cool is if you could load up a certain tileset and palette from the ROM, and edit the tiles/palettes for the seasons and DAN. You know, like you could have a tree full of leaves in Summer, and then it loses leaves when it gets to Autumn/Fall, is covered in Snow when it's Winter, and when it gets back to Spring all the leaves are back, with the addition of some cute little pink flowers.
Create a script for the map header to change the tree tiles when the map is entered depending on what season is on.
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