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Old June 30th, 2013, 01:21 PM
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Good afternoon everyone!

I'd like to join this club. It will be my first club on PokéCommunity too. Here is a little bit about myself:

I'm a nineteen year old FtM (female-to-male) transsexual from Virginia, USA. I go by male pronouns both online and offline, and have been living/passing as male for several years now, despite still residing at home while I attend community college. I'm also gay; I'm in a relationship with another new member to PokéCommunity. Neither he nor I are "activists" per say. We watch the news and take notice of big things happening in the LGBT community, but for the most part, we try not to concern ourselves with political affairs. Despite us being gay we are also more interested in transgender issues than we are "gay issues", since gender identity is ... slightly more complex.

Later on in the day I'll see if I can drag him in here as well. Until that time, though, it's just me. How is everyone doing today?
Hello :D Welcome to the LGBT club

I'm glad you decided to join the discussions. I'm positive you'll get tons of support here, and lots of familiar people you can talk to

I dunno about everyone else, but I'm doing great :)
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Old June 30th, 2013, 02:49 PM
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I just spent the last few hours reading an article about LGBT MP's. For all you Americans out there, there have been 7 since 1983 (you don't count until you're out). The most remarkable conclusion for me was how their mere presence can open the door to legislation getting passed, due to familiarity with both their co-workers and the voting public. Also, the fastest growing group of LGBT MP's are Conservative parties, but over the long run the party ideology with the largest number of LGBT MP's will still be SocDem, Socialist, and Green Parties - the Conservative parties are playing catch-up.

What's also interesting is that out of the 62 out LGB MP's in the world right now, 41 are elected in rural or suburban districts, while 21 are from urban districts. It's surprising to me because you'd think LGB candidates would be concentrated in liberal, urban districts, but apparently not.

Part of their disproportionate success has to do how few of them there are. Because there's so few of them, they're unable to form voting blocs on their own, and they must make political alliances. This leads to educating and creating working relationships with their heterosexual colleagues, as well as creating familiarity. In contrast, other marginalized groups like ethnic minorities tend to have enough representation to form a voting bloc and keep to themselves.

Also, if you are LGBT and live in Western Europe and is interested in public service as an MP, there is no better time than now. The parties want you.

Anyways, it was political science article so it was mostly about drawing on the study of the representation of women and ethnic minorities to analyze the effects of LGBT representation in legislatures so most of it is pretty dry. And I don't know my terms of service so I probably can't copy & paste. But yes, if you are interested in the impact of LGBT representation in legislatures and society in general, here's some food for thought.
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Old June 30th, 2013, 04:20 PM
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What exactly is an LGBT MP? I'd read about them but when I type in MP to google it just gives me many random meanings so I have no clue what it is :[

You're saying there are more "MPs" in rural areas (hillbilly farmers against gay marriage type of thing?) which is surprising because there would usually be less support from those areas?
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Old June 30th, 2013, 05:29 PM
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Oh, MP's are ministers of parliament, who in the US would be members of Congress. So lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender they may be, but represent their constituency they still do.

And yeah! Because the LGBT social movement is associated with progressives, which is also associated with urban centres, it came as a surprise to me that around 2/3 of LGB MP's in 2011 came from rural/suburban districts.
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Old June 30th, 2013, 06:21 PM
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Dude, that's cool! So we have that many LGBT supportive congress members? That's totally awesome :D

That definitely helped put down DOMA and 8 didn't it?
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Old June 30th, 2013, 06:45 PM
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The study was done worldwide, and well, the US tends to be lacking in that department. Whether it help put down DOMA and Prop 8 - those were in the court's hands, but I'm sure the record high 7 members did their part in Congress debating the virtues (or lack of) of DOMA. The good side is that there'll be more in the future - there were only 4 LGBT members of Congress only last year, and now that Republican heavyweights like Colin Powell and Dick Cheney have come out in favour of same-sex marriage, the tide may yet turn. The US is a bit slower than Western Europe (or Canada for that matter), but change is coming.
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Old June 30th, 2013, 07:35 PM
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I am really happy about DOMA. I think it was a big step in the right direction and I hope the LGBT community wins more victories along the way.

But there are still the people who are against it. I heard some woman on the news saying that she hopes God forgives the US for recognizing gay marriage... >_<!
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Old June 30th, 2013, 08:06 PM
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I am really happy about DOMA. I think it was a big step in the right direction and I hope the LGBT community wins more victories along the way.

But there are still the people who are against it. I heard some woman on the news saying that she hopes God forgives the US for recognizing gay marriage... >_<!
*sigh* Christians like that drive me crazy. They just keep flying straight over the WHOLE FRAKKING POINT of Christianity and diving right down onto little nit-picky details. Really wish they would just sit the hell down and stop making the rest of us look bad.

Or at least stop claiming to be "Christian" while actively hating an entire group of people.

Totally. Missing. The point.
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Old June 30th, 2013, 08:27 PM
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But there are still the people who are against it. I heard some woman on the news saying that she hopes God forgives the US for recognizing gay marriage... >_<!
I think these people can be ignored. At this point, it's just meaningless speech. Less and less people are taking them seriously, and screaming louder isn't going to do anything for them. Besides, talking that snidely? Please. I wouldn't take seriously someone who talked like that, no matter where they were coming from.
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Old June 30th, 2013, 09:07 PM
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I think these people can be ignored. At this point, it's just meaningless speech. Less and less people are taking them seriously, and screaming louder isn't going to do anything for them. Besides, talking that snidely? Please. I wouldn't take seriously someone who talked like that, no matter where they were coming from.
Yes, I completely agree with you. Now, with all of us living in the 21st century I highly doubt that this behavior and crude speech will be taken seriously anymore within the next ten years. It seems as if most of the older citizens are the ones responsible for spreading these ideas of homosexuals not being moral. If I'm correct, history repeats itself and we will see this behavior go down like it did with slavery back in the early 1900s.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 11:09 AM
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It's certainly easy to ignore what random people on the television are saying, but it's not the same when you know those people personally or you see them in your neighborhood. Same-sex marriage is all over the news, and it's great that DOMA was struck down and all, but all it's done is increase my dad's aggression towards gays. His favorite thing to say is that a bomb should be dropped in the middle of a pride parade.

It's unfortunate that people will continue to insist that being gay is immoral and same-sex marriage should be illegal, because no matter what type of victory we get, those types of people will always put a damper on the mood.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 03:57 PM
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It's certainly easy to ignore what random people on the television are saying, but it's not the same when you know those people personally or you see them in your neighborhood. Same-sex marriage is all over the news, and it's great that DOMA was struck down and all, but all it's done is increase my dad's aggression towards gays. His favorite thing to say is that a bomb should be dropped in the middle of a pride parade.

It's unfortunate that people will continue to insist that being gay is immoral and same-sex marriage should be illegal, because no matter what type of victory we get, those types of people will always put a damper on the mood.
Ah yes, I seem to have forgotten about my parents as well.

My mother is tolerant, but my father is not what you could call "lenient" towards gay citizens.

He holds a consistent belief that the only thing President Obama is currently doing wrong is supporting gay marriage and rights, and also has a habit of commenting negatively whenever a gay activist is mentioned.

As time passes, some people have opinions that can eventually turn. Some others are stubborn and will not accept us, but that is the way it shall stay until newer and newer generations come into this world.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 07:42 PM
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His favorite thing to say is that a bomb should be dropped in the middle of a pride parade.
Wow, that's actually a pretty disturbing sentiment, especially considering the recent bombing at the Boston marathon.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 08:08 PM
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He holds a consistent belief that the only thing President Obama is currently doing wrong is supporting gay marriage and rights...
Well it's certainly nice of him to talk about Obama like that considering everything else that's going on at the moment XD

The polls are in: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...post-abc-poll/

You can check out the trendlines for yourself. Here is a great selection from another article:

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But supporters of same-sex marriage said the Pew poll reflects a growing acceptance of such unions and a shift in attitudes, as more Americans have gay friends, relatives and co-workers. Pew found that nearly nine out of 10 Americans know someone who is gay, and half said a close friend or relative is gay. The poll said people with gay and lesbian acquaintances are more likely to support same-sex marriage than people who say they don’t know anyone who is gay.

“It’s clear that is not a wedge issue anymore,” said Fred Sainz, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, which advocates changing laws to recognize same-sex marriages. “Not only are Americans supportive of marriage equality, even those who are opposed to it view it as inevitable. That’s a proxy for their eventual support, in my opinion.”

Sainz said opposition to gay marriage often crumbles when people learn how many people they live and work among are gay. “When you get to know them, you quickly find the myths propagated against gay people by our opponents are not true,” he said. “My goal is to get to the point where gay people are thought to be as dull and boring as everyone else, because we are.”
It only gets better. And very soon it will be good enough.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...age-fred-sainz
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 06:52 AM
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Wow, that's actually a pretty disturbing sentiment, especially considering the recent bombing at the Boston marathon.
Unfortunately, my father has been repeating this years before the Boston bombing, so it isn't anything new (for him). I find it funny (sad? ironic? unbelievable?) that my dad has at least one lesbian friend. He has admitted that she and her partner are nice people, yet he still continues to make negative comments at home.

I used to think he simply exempted people he knew personally, because he has never commented on my own sexual preference and he actually really likes my boyfriend! I tried to get him to stop making the bomb comment year after year by asking, "What if I was at the pride parade?" His response was "Oh, well, I guess you'll be getting blown up too."

Ouch.
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 02:12 PM
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I used to think he simply exempted people he knew personally, because he has never commented on my own sexual preference and he actually really likes my boyfriend! I tried to get him to stop making the bomb comment year after year by asking, "What if I was at the pride parade?" His response was "Oh, well, I guess you'll be getting blown up too."

Ouch.
I almost physically hurt inside when I read that. It's too bad your father can't come around.

It's good that he accepts the couple as nice people though. Even though he still makes negative comments, at least he's not one of the "I don't care if they're nice, all gays are bad" people.
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 05:42 PM
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So one of my friends just came out as trans today! It's been many years coming for sure. She's hot as hell now XD It's nice that she's gonna stay herself, I felt do agree with her in that he played up the stereotypes a lot in high school. Glad to see that things are normal now.

Some good news to offset the bad lately. And I also agree that Glee sucks.
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 06:43 PM
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So one of my friends just came out as trans today! It's been many years coming for sure. She's hot as hell now XD It's nice that she's gonna stay herself, I felt do agree with her in that he played up the stereotypes a lot in high school. Glad to see that things are normal now.

Some good news to offset the bad lately. And I also agree that Glee sucks.
Is she mtf? I'm always so confused by the "he"s and "she"s in trans descriptions. I can't tell which was before or after!

Anyways that is a huge step and I'm glad she's happier.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 06:46 AM
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Is she mtf? I'm always so confused by the "he"s and "she"s in trans descriptions. I can't tell which was before or after!

Anyways that is a huge step and I'm glad she's happier.
You are supposed to refer to a trans person as the gender they are physically transitioning to. I'm going to assume (due to the positive nature of their message) that BlahISuck knows this, so she is most likely MtF.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 07:31 AM
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Is she mtf? I'm always so confused by the "he"s and "she"s in trans descriptions. I can't tell which was before or after!

Anyways that is a huge step and I'm glad she's happier.
I was supposed to respond as soon as I saw your message yesterday with a single "yes" but I was afraid of breaking the 4/25 rule. Here's not not breaking that *cheers*!
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 11:06 AM
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Ahh, the character rule :p Don't we just love the character rule?

I knew about transgender terms before, but I always get so confused. I knew you were supposed to call mtf female and ftm male, but it was just confusing reading your paragraph because you referred to her as both, lol
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 06:05 PM
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Well, she really played up the gay stereotype before, so that's why I went with he, but just for that one instance.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 05:36 AM
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This is super late but welcome Bumi! I think you're the first F-to-M transgender person we've ever had here - for some reason they're a lot harder to come by than M-to-F's.

Meanwhile that video was awesome. I love the honesty about it - the douchebag closet case and all.
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I thought I might as well say a hello to this thread again n,n' (it pains me to say again; why can't I stay on one site at a time gah)

Well its not that it matters too much, I wasnt that "big" on this site or thread. Well, I'm Rozen (or Matt) and I'm genderqueer and pansexual. I'm not a really serious person with sexuality and gender, I'm who I am and I'll like who I like.

So to add something besides my reintroduction; I have some plans for a convention I'm going to (Otakon) - I'm going to be doing some crossplay (which apperently is a bit more taboo for guys?) with Meenah Peixes (homestuck), and I may also rock out some stockings when I go up to the LGBT group center (Don't forget the yaoi and yuri :>),
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