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Old October 21st, 2013 (07:27 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Shining Raichu:
So gay marriage in Australia is in a bit of a precarious position right now. The ACT, which is a tiny tiny state in the middle of New South Wales, is passing a bill legalising same-sex marriage, which will make it the first state in Australia to do so. However, the new homophobic Federal Government in power has said that it will challenge the new laws in the High Court of Australia, which has made the ACT lawmakers amend the bill to create a separate status of marriage for same-sex couples to give it a better chance of surviving the challenge.

I don't know whether to be happy or enraged...
Be both. The people of Australia voted in a homophobe because they cared more about their own personal issues than they cared about the plight of an oppressed minority. It's reactionary politics at its worst. I'm almost to the point where I'm just shrugging my shoulders now because the electorate seems to be becoming less and less informed about issues than ever before, and quite frankly, I think they deserve the government they get. Maybe if they begin opening their eyes and start tuning in to what's going on around them and not being so selfish things will start getting done. Instead all I keep hearing from the same old politicians is the same old arguments and the electorate that keeps falling for the same old lies. I guess it's true what they say, you never can teach an old dog new tricks.
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Old October 21st, 2013 (09:37 AM).
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Australia doesn't seem like the kind of place that would backslide and start becoming more hostile to gay rights so it could be a halfway victory. (But what do I know about Australia?)

It's okay to feel annoyed and upset that you're not getting what your rightfully deserve while also feeling a little accomplished if you get something that's imperfect but still better than what was before. Just gotta keep it up.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (04:48 AM).
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The thing is though, I don't actually care so much. Australia is nothing. It always has been and always will be. It simply doesn't matter, so I don't care too much what happens here. My happiness/rage is more on principle, the way you get pissed off when the wrong person gets evicted on Big Brother.

I know gay marriage will be legal here by the time I actually manage to hunt myself down a man lol
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (06:42 AM). Edited October 22nd, 2013 by LaVida.
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Have you guys heard about Russia's policy regarding gay rights?
I didn't know much about Russia but I was completely shocked when I read a newspaper article about the situation of homosexuals in Russia. The government is constantly restricting gay rights. For example, at the beginning of this year, a law was passed that prohibits showing homosexual relationships openly in the public, as "to protect" minors. In the article I read, some homosexuals were quoted who can no longer live without fear. One of them said that she can't hold hands with her girlfriend on the streets anymore because people will stare with disgust. There has been a clear increase in violent attacks against gay people as well.

What shocked me most, though, was a comment made by the state television's Vice-Secretary-General Dmitri Kisseljow during a TV show. He said something like: "I think it's not enough to punish gay people because of gay propaganda around minors. Gay people should not be allowed to get semen or blood donations and after a fatal car accident, you need to bury or burn their hearts as they are unsuitable for a prolongation of life-no matter for whom."

Reading all that, it's impossible to think that just about 10 years ago, the famous (apparently) lesbian duo "t.A.T.u." was Russia's contribution to the Eurovision Song Contest.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (08:20 AM).
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Yeah, Russia is a bad place. I can only suppose that there is enough unrest among people that the government has chosen gay people to be a scapegoat and work up the dregs of their society to support Putin and his crowd.

It's been in the news a bit since they're hosting the Olympics and there's been talk back and forth about whether people should boycott, or how safe it would be for gay athletes or visitors. I know I'm not going to watch the games this time.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (10:38 AM).
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^ After reading the above, I think I'll be boycotting the Olympics as well. That's horrible. No one should have to live in those conditions. That's psychologically damaging.

Does anyone else get tripped up by labels? I just realized that I have recently described myself as pansexual (because my romantic attraction to people is based on their personality), bisexual (because I tend to be romantically attracted to both genders), but also asexual (I don't seem to be sexually attracted to anyone ever.) It's confusing. After looking at the term bisexual, I guess I can't really apply that to myself because it implies sexual attraction. Bi-romantic would be more accurate? I know a lot of people kind of hate these extra labels, but I personally love them - I need that extra nuance or else I'm just misrepresenting myself.
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Old October 23rd, 2013 (09:12 AM).
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To be honest I feel like labels should either be kicked out entirely or they should be really nuanced. If we stop using them then we'll have to get to know people individually, but if we keep them then we give everybody the chance to find something that works for them.
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Old October 23rd, 2013 (11:22 AM).
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I guess if people use labels and how they use them is entirely up to them. I personally don't see a point in looking for the "right" orientation desperately. So, I wouldn't overuse (is this even a word?) labels like Magic Christmas Lights does but if you feel best that way, then why not? I just call myself bisexual but sometimes, I think it'd be best to go without a label. I just like people. That's it. It doesn't really matter to me if I'm attracted to guys more romantically and to girls more sexually. I don't see a point in making a fuss over my orientation like that. It took me long enough to realize that I like both anyway XD
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Old October 23rd, 2013 (12:10 PM).
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I guess if people use labels and how they use them is entirely up to them. I personally don't see a point in looking for the "right" orientation desperately. So, I wouldn't overuse (is this even a word?) labels like Magic Christmas Lights does but if you feel best that way, then why not? I just call myself bisexual but sometimes, I think it'd be best to go without a label. I just like people. That's it. It doesn't really matter to me if I'm attracted to guys more romantically and to girls more sexually. I don't see a point in making a fuss over my orientation like that. It took me long enough to realize that I like both anyway XD
When the big three (homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual) both don't describe you and would actually misrepresent you to others, it's hard not to "overuse" labels.
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Old October 25th, 2013 (06:19 AM).
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Well, I don't know. Most people I know have never heard of the term "bi-romantic" so if it applied to me, I'd probably not use it as it would stir up more confusion than it'd help to express myself. But that's just me. Just because a term is not so well-known, it doesn't mean, it can't be used. So, if it helps you, then it's totally fine :3
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Old October 25th, 2013 (11:22 AM).
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Sounds like there needs to be a big push to educate the people about all these terms we've got. I can just see it: billboards and youtube ads all over the place.

That might scare a lot of people away though.
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Old October 25th, 2013 (11:45 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Scarf:
Sounds like there needs to be a big push to educate the people about all these terms we've got. I can just see it: billboards and youtube ads all over the place.

That might scare a lot of people away though.
I feel you. I think people don't bother because it's too much work to go through so much information that frankly isn't useful on an individual level, really.
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Old October 25th, 2013 (11:56 AM).
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It would make things so much easier if people were, you know, not intolerant.
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Old October 25th, 2013 (11:58 AM).
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Maybe intolerance isn't the best word to describe it, more like apathy :\ The absence of interest doesn't necessarily mean hostility.
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Old October 25th, 2013 (12:31 PM).
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No, I mean intolerance. I don't care about apathy (haha) but people who are intolerant just make any environment a little toxic to even bring up topics like this. With apathetic people you can be "Hey, I'm actually bi-romantic, etc. etc." and they'll be like "Okay."
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Old October 25th, 2013 (07:24 PM).
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I can understand and respect a polite level of expressed apathy. Though I will admit that it is deflating at first when you find someone who really doesn't really care or mind who it is you love. Once you realize it's not a bad thing, it's pretty easy to accept actually. It's sad that so many people choose to remain ignorant though.
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Old October 26th, 2013 (08:55 AM).
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This is a question for all transgender people.

How did you find out that you were transgender? You see, I feel that the whole issue of transgender is very difficult to understand for people who are not concerned. I just can't imagine what it's like. When you're a guy and not satisfied with it and just want to be a girl... is that what it is? I suppose as a guy, you could be girlish, even though it's not what society expects from a guy. There's more than sterotypes. But I guess, with transgender people, it's more than just not fitting in with these sterotypes. Do you feel that you were born in the wrong body? Have you always known that you're "different"?

I'm looking forward to your replies :3
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Old October 29th, 2013 (09:22 PM).
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I'm straight and cisgendered and I don't always fit in the stereotypes so that answers one of the questions. Maybe it doesn't have to do so much with stereotypes like you've said? Not so sure myself, good discussion point though! Let's show and tell XD
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Old October 29th, 2013 (10:53 PM).
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I feel like I am indeed a girl, but nature gave me the wrong chromosome. I wound up finding it out when I felt like I had no sense of fitting in, and asked myself, "who am I?" I figured out what transgenderism was, and I was appalled by how it described how I felt so well (I was twelve.) I went with living like a boy until I was about 18 and a half, then it got to the point where I was unable to take it for much longer. I don't have the answer on exactly how I knew, in part due to that period of time is one I try so hard to forget.

For me it's not as much about stereotypes as much as it is as much as others perceive me. I just wish to be recognised as the person I see myself as: a woman. Even to myself, considering I'll look at a mirror and be unhappy with what I am seeing. I'm hoping to change that though since I'm just about to begin hormone therapy (which in itself makes me happy.)
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Old October 30th, 2013 (12:29 AM).
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Quote originally posted by TéaQQ:
I feel like I am indeed a girl, but nature gave me the wrong chromosome. I wound up finding it out when I felt like I had no sense of fitting in, and asked myself, "who am I?" I figured out what transgenderism was, and I was appalled by how it described how I felt so well (I was twelve.) I went with living like a boy until I was about 18 and a half, then it got to the point where I was unable to take it for much longer. I don't have the answer on exactly how I knew, in part due to that period of time is one I try so hard to forget.

For me it's not as much about stereotypes as much as it is as much as others perceive me. I just wish to be recognised as the person I see myself as: a woman. Even to myself, considering I'll look at a mirror and be unhappy with what I am seeing. I'm hoping to change that though since I'm just about to begin hormone therapy (which in itself makes me happy.)
Best wishes to you on your journey to become the real you. The important thing here, I think, is that you be happy with yourself. I would suggest not concentrating on the acceptance of others. The only true opinion that matters is your own. What others think of you should only be given as much weight as what you decide to eat for dinner tonight.

We all want recognition and acceptance, of course, but it can't be forced on others. Only when you are truly happy with yourself will others recognize and accept you. Take your time, enjoy the journey, and like I said, I offer my best wishes to you and my congratulations for having the courage to be true to yourself. I wish others could be more like you.
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Old November 6th, 2013 (08:11 AM).
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So sometimes when the conversation lags here for a while, I just Google "gay" and see what happens. There's always something gay on Google News.

Today I accidentally clicked Pictures instead of News and pretty much every picture is of men in public in their underwear. How do we feel about this being the dominant image?
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Old November 6th, 2013 (08:17 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Shining Raichu:
So sometimes when the conversation lags here for a while, I just Google "gay" and see what happens. There's always something gay on Google News.

Today I accidentally clicked Pictures instead of News and pretty much every picture is of men in public in their underwear. How do we feel about this being the dominant image?
It actually is not surprising at all, considering homosexual males are commonly referred to as being gay, while homosexual females are more commonly referred to as lesbians. Had you entered the latter into the search engine, instead of mostly nude men, you'd be seeing pictures of women. And although both men and women can be referred to as being gay, it's easier for some to use a distinctive label instead of one all-encompassing label. As for the images you saw, really, I don't mind in the least.
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Old November 6th, 2013 (08:23 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Shining Raichu:
So sometimes when the conversation lags here for a while, I just Google "gay" and see what happens. There's always something gay on Google News.

Today I accidentally clicked Pictures instead of News and pretty much every picture is of men in public in their underwear. How do we feel about this being the dominant image?
Yeah. I think this a huuuge problem. It's one of the things that make homophobic and/or conservative people uneasy about considering their views. It's not going to make homosexual people be perceived as the mainstream, everyday kind of people they are, it's only promoting a fringe and sexualized culture and perception.
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Old November 6th, 2013 (02:28 PM).
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Squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's the pride parades and attention-grabbing stuff like that which gets the most attention from the mainstream. It's probably not as bad as it seems. If you do the same thing for "lesbian" you get mostly stuff that is borderline inappropriate for a website like this: half-naked women kissing and grinding and that sort of stuff. Very clearly there for straight men.
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Old November 7th, 2013 (04:53 PM).
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I don't think it's too late to join, so may I? I'm bi, and I don't care what sexual orientation anyone is--I support them all.

To be honest, I've known only recently that I was bi... and recently I feel like I lean more towards women, but yeah, it's what makes me happy in a relationship, right?
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