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Old August 11th, 2011 (02:40 PM).
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On the topic of reform camps:

I personally would not send my child to one, but I also cannot meddle in the affairs of other families who choose to do so.
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On the topic of reform camps:

I personally would not send my child to one, but I also cannot meddle in the affairs of other families who choose to do so.
I think that a person has every right to go to the camp; however, I believe that the teen/young adult/adult must do so voluntarily. Sure a parent can make life threatening surgery or mental health therapies mandatory for their children. As far as the ex-gay camps go, their therapies are not recommended by the the American Psychiatrist's Association, and therefore should not be involuntary. A psychiatrist discussing some deep-seeded issues involving sexuality with a patient that has been greatly affected by their sexual identity, may be a more suitable option, and may be necessary for LGBT children whom develop suicidal thoughts or anti-social disorders as a result of their sexuality.
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Old August 11th, 2011 (03:59 PM).
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On the topic of reform camps:

I personally would not send my child to one, but I also cannot meddle in the affairs of other families who choose to do so.
So if you were in the situation where you had the power to stop somebody going into one of these camps where they would be bastardized and mentally/emotionally abused and Bible-bashed into what ultimately will not work and further scar them, you would not use that power?

In this world there is such thing as right and wrong. Not every little thing can be brushed away under the argument that it's a parent's right to do whatever they want to their child according to their beliefs.
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Old August 11th, 2011 (04:48 PM).
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Rights and wrongs can differ among people. Most of it comes from upbringing, but that does not give the parents the right to force morals when their child is old enough to know better. It pisses me off that parents think they can still shove false moral crap down their children's throats when their children have differing opinions. Camps are proof that some parents still think they can control their children's beliefs.
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Old August 11th, 2011 (06:23 PM).
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Rights and wrongs can differ among people. Most of it comes from upbringing, but that does not give the parents the right to force morals when their child is old enough to know better. It pisses me off that parents think they can still shove false moral crap down their children's throats when their children have differing opinions. Camps are proof that some parents still think they can control their children's beliefs.
Ah. Thanks for reminding me of my mom -.- The way I was "raised" was pretty much to loath my mom. But... that's not really important.

To be honest... isn't it just a cycle? Those parents were once children themselves and it was how they were raised. While I do agree that it's wrong to force those different ideals down someone's throat, I also believe in understanding. That's why I can't really blame them. I just feel sorry and in times like that... it's just best to support whomever needs it. One of my English teachers, for instance, was extremely homophobic, but through a bit of understanding... we were able to assuage her fears and now she's perfectly fine with homosexuals <3
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Old August 12th, 2011 (07:47 AM).
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Although the typical family is has straight parents, would you see yourself having a family and raising children (adopted or not, doesn't matter)? Or do you think that you will most likely just find a soul mate? Or do you see yourself single, with open relationships?

From my experience, it's about equally in all categories among gay guys I know; the younger ones tend to pick option 3 more, and the more mature ones are divided by the options 1 and 2. But for me, I see myself with a husband and two kids.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (08:31 AM).
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Although the typical family is has straight parents, would you see yourself having a family and raising children (adopted or not, doesn't matter)? Or do you think that you will most likely just find a soul mate? Or do you see yourself single, with open relationships?

I see myself as being the male equivalent of a cat lady. I have multiple reasons for believing this.
1. Cats are freaking awesome.
2. I don't like people and have no desire to be in a relationship (emotionally) with someone.

so..yay me.

I figured I can start post gay news again since someone else isn't.

I find it funny how a bunch of highly religious Catholic nations are more progressive than a secular United States who claims to be the most free country on the planet. :3
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Old August 12th, 2011 (08:32 AM).
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Although the typical family is has straight parents, would you see yourself having a family and raising children (adopted or not, doesn't matter)? Or do you think that you will most likely just find a soul mate? Or do you see yourself single, with open relationships?

I know I dont want kids under any circumstances. I believe most people probably dont find their soul-mates upon entering their first relationship, though if I could garuntee I would find a soul-mate, I would choose the 2nd option. I dont think I have the kind of self-esteem or confidence where I could handle an open relationship.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (08:46 AM).
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Although the typical family is has straight parents, would you see yourself having a family and raising children (adopted or not, doesn't matter)? Or do you think that you will most likely just find a soul mate? Or do you see yourself single, with open relationships?
There's a definite no to me having children. Children just don't fit into the lifestyle I love and have planned, whether with a partner or single.

I also wouldn't be able to handle open relationships. I have major problems with jealousy that stems from low self-esteem.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (10:39 AM).
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I find it funny how a bunch of highly religious Catholic nations are more progressive than a secular United States who claims to be the most free country on the planet. :3
And at the same time you have places like Ghana and Zimbabwe where they're making it a crime/disease to be gay. It's like some places are moving forward, but some places are moving backward. You'd think that, generally, things would just get better overall. Maybe slowly in some parts of the world, but at least not backsliding like this.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (10:50 AM).
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And at the same time you have places like Ghana and Zimbabwe where they're making it a crime/disease to be gay. It's like some places are moving forward, but some places are moving backward. You'd think that, generally, things would just get better overall. Maybe slowly in some parts of the world, but at least not backsliding like this.
In a lot of places there is growing opposition to those laws. Many places with laws like that, they are old laws that are decades, maybe even more than a century in some places.

The world collectively is moving forward. The only place that I can think of that actually has a growing opposition towards civil liberties is Uganda. In other places it's growing in favor of us.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (10:51 AM).
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Well, there are already several countries that have a death penalty for being homosexual.

Nearly every country in Africa/The Middle East have some sort of criminal penalty for being Gay.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (10:53 AM).
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So if you were in the situation where you had the power to stop somebody going into one of these camps where they would be bastardized and mentally/emotionally abused and Bible-bashed into what ultimately will not work and further scar them, you would not use that power?

In this world there is such thing as right and wrong. Not every little thing can be brushed away under the argument that it's a parent's right to do whatever they want to their child according to their beliefs.
I'm somewhat of a moral skeptic and I'm also a libetarian. I believe that unless therenis a general consensus among socitey, there is not right and wron. There are only opinions. Thus, I wouldn't be meddling in a parent's affiars with their children just like I wouldn't appreciate someone meddling in mine.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (10:55 AM).
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Well, there are already several countries that have a death penalty for being homosexual.

Nearly every country in Africa/The Middle East have some sort of criminal penalty for being Gay.
And South Africa is like a beacon of hope. lol

South Africa is actually very politically active in efforts to change the laws throughout Africa.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (10:57 AM).
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Old August 12th, 2011 (11:03 AM).
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Well, there are already several countries that have a death penalty for being homosexual.

Nearly every country in Africa/The Middle East have some sort of criminal penalty for being Gay.
O_O

Seriously?! That's just ridiculous. Those who try to criminalize homosexuality are just sick, in my opinion. I'm sorry, but I don't have much respect for them.

I just looked something up on one country I've heard of that criminalizes homosexuality: Uganda.

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The legislation strengthens the criminalisation of homosexuality in Uganda by introducing the death penalty for people who are considered serial offenders, are suspected of "aggravated homosexuality" and are HIV-positive, or who engage in sexual acts with those under 18 years of age.[13] People who are caught or suspected of homosexual activity will be forced to undergo HIV tests; Ugandans who engage in same-sex sexual relations outside Uganda will likewise fall under the jurisdiction of this law, and may be extradited and charged with a felony. Furthermore, if passed, the bill will require anyone who is aware of an offense or an offender, including individuals, companies, media organisations, or non-governmental organisations who support LGBT rights, to report the offender within 24 hours. If an individual does not do so he or she is also considered an offender and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding 250 "currency points" or imprisonment up to three years.
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This is totally ridiculous, in my opinion. According to the source, it hasn't yet been voted on, but it showed overwhelming support. *gags*
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O_O

Seriously?! That's just ridiculous. Those who try to criminalize homosexuality are just sick, in my opinion. I'm sorry, but I don't have much respect for them.

I just looked something up on one country I've heard of that criminalizes homosexuality: Uganda.



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This is totally ridiculous, in my opinion. According to the source, it hasn't yet been voted on, but it showed overwhelming support. *gags*
Have you never seen the "eat da poo poo" video?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w (Edit: I guess I should warn you that this may be offensive... so watch at your own risk. lol)

I find it funny that every thing he mentions that Gays do is entirely possible for straight couples to do as well.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (11:36 AM).
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Have you never seen the "eat da poo poo" video?

Just a few months ago I laughed my butt off at this. Now I just face palm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w (Edit: I guess I should warn you that this may be obscenely offensive... so watch at your own risk. lol)

I find it funny that every thing he mentions that Gays do is entirely possible for straight couples to do as well.
Yes, I have seen that video. It's hilarious, admittedly, but I highly disagree with the message sent by it. I first saw it on Tosh.0.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (03:52 PM).
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My first thought on this was "Didn't straight people invent those activities?"
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Old August 12th, 2011 (05:34 PM).
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My first thought on this was "Didn't straight people invent those activities?"
Why would you think that? There's no valid reason to think any single group did it. They've all been around forever and both do it.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (05:41 PM).
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It was a joke. I don't know who invented it, but I do know it's not a gay-only thing.
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Have you never seen the "eat da poo poo" video?

Just a few months ago I laughed my butt off at this. Now I just face palm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w (Edit: I guess I should warn you that this may be offensive... so watch at your own risk. lol)

I find it funny that every thing he mentions that Gays do is entirely possible for straight couples to do as well.
Was that on Tosh.0, lol. I think I watched that! I think that all countries supporting death penalty or prison sentencing for homosexuality should be embargoed and not be a part of our world, I do not want to celebrate the Olympics with despotic nations. lol. Let's just pray that Anne Coulter does not take over the U.S.! (I am sorry that I forget to include other nations other than the U.S all the time; Americans are so egocentric!)

The thing that really gets me is that male homosexuality is illegal and female homosexuality is legal in many countries!
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Old August 12th, 2011 (07:39 PM).
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Although the typical family is has straight parents, would you see yourself having a family and raising children (adopted or not, doesn't matter)? Or do you think that you will most likely just find a soul mate? Or do you see yourself single, with open relationships?

Definitely. I love kids and I plan to have at least two (Adopting.) kids and if my partner and I want to discuss the possibility of more then we will.

I definitely cannot be in an open relationship. I want someone to be all mine and with no one else. :3
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Old August 12th, 2011 (08:16 PM).
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The thing that really gets me is that male homosexuality is illegal and female homosexuality is legal in many countries!
Seriously? I can't believe sexist laws like that actually exist!
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Unbeatable Flame, this.
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Old August 12th, 2011 (08:25 PM).
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Seriously? I can't believe sexist laws like that actually exist!
Yeah, quite a few are that way actually.

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