The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club]

[Rossay]

Originally Posted by Shining Raichu

This has to be the most horrible story I've read tonight. I honestly don't think, even in the extremely sad circumstances you're facing, I'd be able to overcome the hurtful things she has said. You are far stronger than I am.

I'm really sorry to hear that she's soon to pass away, I can't even imagine. I know it sounds hollow and presumptuous coming from a stranger who is likely not even in the same country, but I'm here for you if you need me.

Thanks, I appreciate it . I don't have any gay friends inrl so it's difficult if you are trying to get advice on an LGBT-specific issue.


Although the typical family is has straight parents, would you see yourself having a family and raising children (adopted or not, doesn't matter)? Or do you think that you will most likely just find a soul mate? Or do you see yourself single, with open relationships?

If I was with a guy, then I don't think I could see myself having kids / adopting them. I think that I would feel guilty that they wouldn't be brought up in a standard mother-father family & I'd feel terrible if they were to face any kind of prejudice / bullying because of me.

I would like to think that I will eventually find someone... despite not ever having had a boyfriend before... While an 'open' relationship seems to work okay for more casual scenarios, I think that at some point I would want a serious monogamous relationship.

[Shining Raichu]

*pants, having run for twenty posts to catch up*

Although the typical family is has straight parents, would you see yourself having a family and raising children (adopted or not, doesn't matter)? Or do you think that you will most likely just find a soul mate? Or do you see yourself single, with open relationships?

I cannot stand children. I don't want them anywhere near me, or, if it can be helped, within a 10-mile radius of me. There are no children in my future. Plus, OVERPOPULATION SCARES THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF ME so I won't be dropping another sucker into this mess.

Originally Posted by Landorus

I figured I can start post gay news again since someone else isn't.

NOOOOOO. Donchu go stealing my job away from me I'll be better I promise.

Originally Posted by Rossay

Thanks, I appreciate it . I don't have any gay friends inrl so it's difficult if you are trying to get advice on an LGBT-specific issue.

You're very welcome!

[Ctrl.Alt.Geak]

Originally Posted by Shining Raichu

*pants, having run for twenty posts to catch up*
I cannot stand children. I don't want them anywhere near me, or, if it can be helped, within a 10-mile radius of me. There are no children in my future. Plus, OVERPOPULATION SCARES THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF ME so I won't be dropping another sucker into this mess.

I'm so glad someone has the same opinion as me on kids. Just adding to what you said, I cant really stand having to talk to them on the phone when they call up my shop all too much either. Whenever I say this kind of thing to the people I associate with, they think I'm just being a jerk (I actually wanted to use another 4 letter word that starts with 'P' but I'm not sure on what the rules are about that kind of thing )

[QuilavaKing]

I hate kids too, maybe not quite as much as you though, lol.

[Scarf]

Originally Posted by -ty-

The thing that really gets me is that male homosexuality is illegal and female homosexuality is legal in many countries!

Probably it's got a lot to do with weird ideas people have of women. I wouldn't be surprised if you found people who said women couldn't be gay. (People have weird ideas.) Or maybe it's because in some places women have a lot less freedom so there's never been a "problem" with women wanting to be with other women since they never had the freedom to live their own independent lives where they were out from under a man's view/control/whatever.

Oh, this makes me wonder:

If you support gay rights (and I'm assuming you do) do you also consider yourself a feminist?

[Kiyoshi the Polar Bear]

If you support gay rights (and I'm assuming you do) do you also consider yourself a feminist?

I'm a Feminine Eminem, a Slim Shady Lady~

No....?

Although I am in favor for equal rights for women (I don't why some aren't, because that's alienating more than half the freaking population of humans just because they've got different physical build and slightly different mental makeup) I'm not a feminist because I don't actively participate in the movement and I never have consitered myself to be one?

[Snow Phoenix]

If you support gay rights (and I'm assuming you do) do you also consider yourself a feminist?


A bit. I'm probably much more belligerent than Kiyoshi ^.^ I don't take discrimination based on sex lightly and may possibly do something out of character because of it. My views also tend to favor what my lesbian friends believe in (as opposed to other groups) to the point that they consider me an "honorary lesbian" worthy of the title of "the lesbian in a man's body." It's quite an interesting image, but I'll take it as a compliment o.o

[Shining Raichu]

Originally Posted by Ctrl.Alt.Geak

I'm so glad someone has the same opinion as me on kids. Just adding to what you said, I cant really stand having to talk to them on the phone when they call up my shop all too much either. Whenever I say this kind of thing to the people I associate with, they think I'm just being a jerk (I actually wanted to use another 4 letter word that starts with 'P' but I'm not sure on what the rules are about that kind of thing )

I'm so glad someone else feels this way! I can only ever seem to find gay guys who want children, which is frustrating because there aren't that many gay guys to begin with and then adding to that that you don't want kids makes one that much harder to find. But yeah, REALLY hate kids.

Also, I didn't answer the question properly. I do see myself finding a soulmate and getting married etc. I just saw the part of the question about children and it made me fly into a rage


If you support gay rights (and I'm assuming you do) do you also consider yourself a feminist?

I'm sort of not understanding how one has that much to do with the other, but yeah I'm absolutely a feminist. Everybody should be equal. Everybody. Cept maybe the Jews. that was a joke, no hatemail please

[Retro Bug]

): I don't see how you can hate kids. Well, I mean I can but yeah.

If you support gay rights (and I'm assuming you do) do you also consider yourself a feminist?

Erm. tbh I think I am. I'm not like some radical feminist though but I won't let stupid comments that downgrade people slide by. I love my women!

[Landorus]

If you support gay rights (and I'm assuming you do) do you also consider yourself a feminist?

Well, my friends always call me the Male Feminist.

So yes. Although I prefer the title of "Not sexist" instead of feminist.

[Scarf]

Originally Posted by Shining Raichu

I'm sort of not understanding how one has that much to do with the other, but yeah I'm absolutely a feminist. Everybody should be equal. Everybody.[/s]

Gay rights and feminism are both movements that revolve around gender issues and aim for equality. In reality they're quite nearly the same thing, simply having slightly different approaches and focuses. But they have a much greater difference in their public images and that's what I was wondering when I asked.

So of course I'm a feminist. I believe in equality. But I'm also not afraid of the image that people have of what a feminist is and so I'm not afraid to say I'm a feminist.

[deoxys121]

I, myself, fully believe in equality for everyone. So, yes, I guess you could say I am a feminist. I want everyone to have equal rights, regardless of age, race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, or anything else.

[U_Flame]

The one thing I don't like about hypocrite feminists are the ones that say they want equal rights but don't want the bad sides of equality. I agree to equal rights for everybody. Both the good side and the bad side.

[deoxys121]

Originally Posted by U_Flame

The one thing I don't like about hypocrite feminists are the ones that say they want equal rights but don't want the bad sides of equality. I agree to equal rights for everybody. Both the good side and the bad side.

I'm assuming what you mean here is that you don't like it when they want to have equal rights, but they still want to get the treatment like "We'll go easy on you because you're a woman." If that's what you're saying, then I agree with you. Equal rights also means equal punishment.

[U_Flame]

Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[-ty-]

I am for equal rights of all people. I do not think that any groups deserves more or less than the other. I do think that women are close to equal to men as far as legislation. In some cases women do get preferential treatment when it comes to state laws pertaining to families, and men tend to get paid more than women. Neither of those are equitable, so I cannot endorse either gender for more right than the other.

But for GLBT people and straight people, there is a very substantial gap between rights; even though I support gender equality, there is much more blatant inequities that are felt by the sexual minorities. With that being said, not from a legal standpoint, but a philosophical, I believe that gender roles are rubbish, and it's my personal belief that a man or woman can have a job, nurture children, or anything that the other gender can do, except for some of the biological impossibilities of course (bearing children, urinating standing up) lol

[Renii]

If you support gay rights (and I'm assuming you do) do you also consider yourself a feminist?

Yes, but it doesn't have anything to do with GLBT issues. I respect everybody's right to equality. I'd protect anybody being mistreated (which includes, sexism, racism, rich-poor (?) etc.)
I don't see myself as an activist, or a public supporter for any groups. Not even GLBT issues. I deal with hatred and hypocrisy in daily life, that's it

Oh btw, I'm back. Missed this place. =P
Just that I don't have interest in Pokemon anymore

[FreakyLocz14]

I'm not a feminist. I'm an imdividualist. I don't believe that anybody's rights should be because they ar of a certain group, but they should be because they're individuals. Group membership shouldn't be taken into account.

[Shining Raichu]

I think it's time for some gay news!

• Gay student Larry King's murder was a conscious plan.
• Michelle Bachmann praised for her comments on the gay community - wtf?

Both of these stories sicken me. The first one fills me with renewed rage at Brandon McInerny, who I personally believe should be met with no leniency whatsoever in this matter. How dare his lawyers try to plead anything even resembling temporary insanity? It was clearly - clearly a pre-meditated plan, and he will have a whole community to answer to if he is shown any leniency in this matter.

As for the second one, I honestly don't understand it. Michelle Bachmann has said that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that she will try to reinstate the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy - yet she is being praised for saying that she doesn't judge gay people? Well, how kind of her! The woman is clearly a bigot and should be treated as nothing but exactly that. A disgusting bigot trying to recreate a discriminatory America.

[-ty-]

What if homosexuality was the "norm", and heterosexuality was considered to be unnatural by societal and religious institutions. How would you treat heterosexuals? How would the world treat them? The same as homosexuals are now?

Although I would say that I would treat them as equals, in different circumstances I would be a completely different person. Although I do not like the fact that my sexuality has changed the environment I live in and thus my personality, I believe it does play a major role in who I am. I think that heterosexual teens would undergo the same struggles with bullying in school, and I think that it is likely that I might tease a person that was heterosexual. I think that if this happened to ever heterosexual person that has displayed prejudice toward GLBT people, then I think that they would not be the way they are. Also, I believe that Bisexual and transgendered people would undergo the same prejudices if the swap in norms occurred. And we would have the term "SBT" or straights, bisexuals, and trangendered people. What are your thoughts?

[deoxys121]

In response to the story about Larry King:

That is just sickening! What Larry did was not "teasing" as they call it; it's very clear. He was just being himself by making a comment to another guy he found attractive. If that's what he needs to do express himself, he should be allowed to. If McInerney didn't like the comment, all he had to say was "Sorry, I'm straight." It could have ended right then and there. But, no. This crime was committed out of pure hate, and he deserves nothing less than the maximum punishment. It wasn't manslaughter; it was murder, simply because he actively thought about it and planned it out.

[Shining Raichu]

What if homosexuality was the "norm", and heterosexuality was considered to be unnatural by societal and religious institutions. How would you treat heterosexuals? How would the world treat them? The same as homosexuals are now?

Before I discovered I was gay, Will & Grace was what desensitised me to the idea of homosexuality and normalised it for me. After watching that show I really couldn't understand what the big deal about being gay was, not that I'd had much exposure to it before then. So I imagine this alternate-reality version of Will & Grace in which they were a hilarious straight couple cranking out children would do the same thing for me in this world. I can't imagine treating straight people any differently, just as I didn't treat gay people any differently before I found out I was one of them lol

[-ty-]

Larry King case:

I think that boy should not get first degree, and maybe second-degree ONLY because of his abuse as a child from his meth-addict parents. If you do drugs, your kids suffer greatly. I think that the gay flaunting is nonsense. Is it flaunting straightness when a boy and girl hold hands and kiss in the hallways? I think that our government has the right to take children out of these at-risk homes to prevent this type of occurrence. Look at the statistics, most drug-addict parents, had parent whom were drug-addicts. These children are likely to suffer from severe psychological harm, in a never-ending cycle. So I think an asylum would be the most beneficial solution to this problem, not prison. That will just enable him to become more psychologically damaged and more homophobic. All-in-all parents do not have the right to treat their children however they want to.


MICHELE BACHMANN:

Alright, apparently Anne Coulter's Aunt wants to run for president! I have followed the race fairly closely, in hopes that Ron Paul might win. Even though he was less than a percentage point away from Bachmann, the media awarded him very little acknowledgement. The only reason why Bachmann is becoming more and more successful is her relentless efforts to be a part of the media.

The sad thing is that her step sister Helen is a lesbian. Although the two were close, she has estranged her step-sister based off her sexual orientation. Michele Bachmann preaches religious freedom, but does not understand that Christianity, is not the only religion, and in fact the Constitution denies the government the right to establish a religion so that religious freedoms can thrive. She is for forcing "intelligent design" alongside evolution, restricting marriages to only heterosexual couples (states legislation have no say), restricting same-sex unions and even same-sex activities, ostracizing gay people from the military and society as a whole. I do not believe that anyone has the right to let their religious beliefs oppress other people, it is subjective and it has no place in the United States or any country that wants freedom to reign.

*cough*

Let's hope her migraines turn into an aneurysm, lol, jk...kinda

As far as Ron Paul goes, he has expressed that he believes that marriage is between one man and one woman, but he believes that it is the right of the states to be able to allow same-sex marriages. So at least he doesn't let his religious views get in the way of his decision-making. But it is likely that Bachmann or Romney will win the nominations, or even Sarah Palin if she runs, which is quite unfortunate.

[Shining Raichu]

Originally Posted by -ty-

I think that boy should not get first degree, and maybe second-degree ONLY because of his abuse as a child from his meth-addict parents. If you do drugs, your kids suffer greatly.

I don't understand how the fact that he was abused by meth-addict parents means he should get leniency on the charge of murder. Whether or not he was affected negatively by this notwithstanding, he was in his right mind and he made a plan to kill another person. He planned it and he executed it; it's that simple. I don't take pity on him nor do I feel sorry for him. He took someone else's life, now he has to pay with his.

[-ty-]

Originally Posted by Shining Raichu

I don't understand how the fact that he was abused by meth-addict parents means he should get leniency on the charge of murder. Whether or not he was affected negatively by this notwithstanding, he was in his right mind and he made a plan to kill another person. He planned it and he executed it; it's that simple. I don't take pity on him nor do I feel sorry for him. He took someone else's life, now he has to pay with his.

I guess I do not know the full extent of the abuse, but I would not give him first degree. I think that by sending him to prison for 20 years will do nothing but continue the cycle, although I want someone to pay for the child's death, I think that punishment aside, the future would be better for society if the child was sentenced to an insane asylum so because he is essentially brainwashed from his parents. But I do not intend to pity killers, I just want to prevent killers from continuing their behavior. I will say that if the evidence is not strong enough to suggest psychological harm that the child should get second-degree murder, or 15 years with psychological treatments. I think that more importantly we need to understand that parents should not be able to indoctrinate their children with discrimination that inhibits their ability to function in society. This should be accomplished through education, and strict parenting laws. Parents should not have to tell their kids that gays are good, but they should not be able to teach hate and discrimination.