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Old June 4th, 2011, 06:56 PM
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Sawk
Giga Impact
Retaliate
Reversal
Close Combat

Item: Fist Plate
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Darmanitan
Thrash
Overheat
Flare Blitz
Hammer Arm

Item: Flame Plate
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Haxorus
Dragon Tail
Dragon Claw
Hyper Beam
Dragon Pulse

Item: Draco Plate
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Boldore
Explosion
Iron Defense
Rock Slide
Stone Edge

Item: Stone Plate
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Tornadus
Fly
Air Slash
Toxic
Agility

Item: Sky Plate
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Samurott
Hydro Cannon
Waterfall
Hydro Pump
Surf

Item: Splash Plate
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Old June 5th, 2011, 01:43 AM
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Btw, this forum is for competitive teams.
This is the forum you're looking for.
Spoiler:

I'm gonna rate this from an ingame point of view, since you're in the wrong forum.
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Sawk
Bulk Up
Reversal
Stone Edge (Gives him something to use against flying types.)
Close Combat

Item: Rocky Helmet (Contact moves used against the holder will damage the attacker with 1/6 of their maximum HP. - Bulbapedia)
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Darmanitan
Stone Edge
Superpower/Earthquake/Belly Drum
Flare Blitz
Hammer Arm

Item: Wide Lense (Better accuracy)
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Haxorus
Brick Break
Earthquake
Dragon Dance (Boosts attack and speed)
Outrage

Item: Dragon Fang
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Gigalith
Explosion
Earthquake
Steal Rock
Stone Edge

Item: Stone Plate
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Sigilyph (Gives your team better type coverage than Tornadus)
Psychic
Air Slash
Roost
Energy Ball (For rock types)
Item: Leftovers
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Samurott
Swords Dance
X-Scissor
Ice Beam
Surf

Item: Splash Plate
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Old June 5th, 2011, 06:15 AM
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I meant this for competitive... Why is it not for competition?
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Old June 5th, 2011, 06:30 AM
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A lot of the things about your team are very uncompetitive to the point where it may be mistaken for an in-game team. For example, your Samurott. You cannot run four Water-type moves on it without expecting poor results, and that goes for all of your other Pokemon too - you should only run one move of each type. What happens if someone switches in a Vaporeon with Water Absorb? Hydro Cannon is a really bad competitive move because it causes you to waste a turn after you use it. Fly, Hyper Beam, etc are all in the same vein. Plates are also poor choices for items all around - there are more specific items that work better.

If this is intended to be a competitive team, there are a lot of things to shape up. The things I mentioned aren't even the full of it. If you'd like to be more competitive, I suggest looking at some of the other RMTs around here and comparing them to your team, and trying to understand the difference between competitive and in-game because right now this team does look like an in-game team.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 06:49 AM
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Thank you both for your advice, I'll work on my team...
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Old June 5th, 2011, 07:41 PM
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You're new to this, I know...but it takes a lot of practice to actually realize what you need on one of these.

I'll try to give a step by step analysis.

Sawk
Giga Impact
Retaliate
Reversal
Close Combat

Item: Fist Plate




First off, as with all Pokemon, make SURE you use Protect unless something isn't allowing it to be efficient. Secondly, Sawk is a good Pokemon, but there are actually better alternatives for what he does...I.E. Conkeldurr, Terrakion, Scrafty.

The item also isn't necessary, this will also go for all 6 Pokemon. Plates are rarely to never used. Go with a gem of the STAB move if anything- 50% boost on one attack usually 1HKO's anything that it's normal against. If you think the Pokemon is great and just needs a speed boost to get its primary move off faster, use a choice scarf, and if you think it gets OHKO'd too easily, use a focus sash. Sash and scarf should always be utilized no matter what your team looks like.

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Darmanitan
Thrash
Overheat
Flare Blitz
Hammer Arm

Item: Flame Plate



This is a somewhat legit Pokemon. Again, go with protect and a fire gem here. Thrash isn't a great move...And overheat doesn't work as far as his strengths go. He's an Attacker, not a Sp Attacker. Flare Blitz is his key move, that should definitely stay. Hammer Arm could be a good filler.
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Haxorus
Dragon Tail
Dragon Claw
Hyper Beam
Dragon Pulse

Item: Draco Plate


Another legit Pokemon. This is a good one to scarf if you can afford it.

As far as moveset goes, I'd say you should definitely limit it to Dragon Claw for dragon-type moves. The other ones are completely unnecessary. Also, Hyper Beam is a Sp Att move...so it wouldn't do anything. Hax is a pure attacker. No Sp Att ANYWHERE.

He also is a good Rockslider. That's a key move in this metagame.

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Boldore
Explosion
Iron Defense
Rock Slide
Stone Edge

Item: Stone Plate



I'll trade that and trade it back for a Gigalith, first of all.
I actually like the moveset...just get rid of iron defense for protect.

Stone plate...meh. Go with either a rock or normal gem.

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Tornadus
Fly
Air Slash
Toxic
Agility

Item: Sky Plate

Fly? Not necessary, acrobatics takes care of that in a heartbeat. Air slash is SP ATT, not many people use Tornadus for that. Go with a Tailwind instead to give your team a speed boost. Also, Toxic isn't necessary if you're not a staller. Go with Taunt if you want to shut someone down harder. Also, agility isn't really needed, Tornadus is the fastest OU Pokemon in this metagame.
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Samurott
Hydro Cannon
Waterfall
Hydro Pump
Surf

Item: Splash Plate


Waaay too many water-type moves. This wouldn't be a bad Pokemon to Sash, either. It's an attacker...go with Waterfall, cut the other three moves. Also, put an Aqua Jet on it for priority. Ice Beam wouldn't be another bad move. Protect for the last one.


You're lacking some overall team fluidity too. I recommend you really hit up either Smogon's or Skarmbliss's servers on Pokemon Online and give it a test.


Looks like you've got an idea though for who to consider using.


GL HF and stuff.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 08:26 PM
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Something you probably should put on here are the natures and what ability the pokemon should have. A great deal of pokemon have more than one ability, and knowing that will help alot.

Another thing is EVs. EVs are important to get the most out of your Pokemon's abilities.

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Sawk
Giga Impact
Retaliate
Reversal
Close Combat

Item: Fist Plate

I would honestly recommend using Conkuldur instead of Sawk. While Sturdy is useful and Sawk is faster. Conkuldur can be breed with Mach Punch (and Drain punch if you have the older games) and his abilities are better. Also this Sawk has two Normal moves, while they are strong, they don't play to his advantages. Close Combat = Giga Impact for all intents and purposes and it's Same Type Attack Boost (50% extra dmg). Retaliate is only really good on a normal type, since it can STAB.

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Darmanitan
Thrash
Overheat
Flare Blitz
Hammer Arm

Item: Flame Plate

Ability would really help here, since you can catch a darmanitan with Zen Mode, which completely changes the Pokemon.

Thrash is a meh choice. Its a normal type move, but his Atk can let him cause serious havoc. Overheat is a SPAttack on an attack focused pokemon. Flare Blitz and Hammer arm are good choices.

Try Stone Edge and Earthquake. Not STAB, but with it's High Atk, it can do some major damage.


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Haxorus
Dragon Tail
Dragon Claw
Hyper Beam
Dragon Pulse

Too Many Dragon Moves.

Dragon Claw or level it to 66 for Outrage. Hyper beam and Dragon Pulse are Special Attack on a Physical Attack Pokemon. Dragon Dance and Sword dance are both really good moves that you shouldn't pass over.

My Haxorus has the Mold Breaker ability, and knows

Dragon Claw
Earth Quake
Swords Dance
Brick Break
This gives him good coverage for alot of favored walls and type advantage.



Item: Draco Plate
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Boldore
Explosion
Iron Defense
Rock Slide
Stone Edge

Item: Stone Plate

Trade to Evolve. A good move set, just drop Iron Defense for Earthquake.

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Tornadus
Fly
Air Slash
Toxic
Agility

Item: Sky Plate

I would replace for a tank. Look up Ferrothorn or even Weezing.

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Samurott
Hydro Cannon
Waterfall
Hydro Pump
Surf

Item: Splash Plate

Too many water moves.

go

Aqua Jet (STAB revenge Kill Move)
Sword Dance
Ice beam
and maybe breed Air Slash

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A solid first attempt, you need to check your typing, you may be weak agianst certain types.

Also, there are a lot of items you can use instead of plates. Leftovers are great, and the Choice Specs, Choice Scarf, Focus sash are excellent for competive battling.

Check the Resources to find sites that can help you improve your team. Marrils team builder is one I use often since it tells you where your weakest.
 
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