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Old November 27th, 2011 (06:18 PM).
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Quite new to the battling scene, me and a friend really want to do double battles. Can we double team online or are we required to find two people locally? Is there any features even in game against the computer we could tag team?
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Quite new to the battling scene, me and a friend really want to do double battles. Can we double team online or are we required to find two people locally? Is there any features even in game against the computer we could tag team?
It depends on what game you have. In Black and White you can do this in the Multi Trains, but it's only against the computer, while gen 4 also has this with the "Pokémon Communication Club Colosseum" but no on the main games there is no way as of yet to tag battle online, so you're going to have to face the computer :(
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Which EV spread is more effective for Eviolite Porygon2?:
1. 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
2. 252 HP/184 Def/72 SDef
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Old December 7th, 2011 (09:48 AM).
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Hello everyone!

I have been EV training my Pokemon Party in SoulSilver for quite some time now. I just recently spent 2 whole days of trading my old party (aka the Parents of my newly breed Pokemon) to get the exact Nature I want, after reaching level 100 for their parents.

Now I have had 5 across my entire game play of SoulSilver, never cared to work on #6. Until now, its time to find the perfect fit in. The more ideas/opinions, the better! Here is my party:

Naive Raichu (Mighty Fast)
Modest Ninetales
Modest Umbreon
Hasty Espeon
Sassy Dragonite
??????????????

And a good movepool for a Raichu? I had the father learn Volt Tackle with Focus Punch, Thunder & Rain Dance. But I want Raichu to know Thunderbolt instead and still has the moves learned from his father. Just lost on what I should teach him. As Rain Dance take a turn to use and the foe is likely to switch to a Ground/Earthquake user by the time I can use Thunder. Gross Knot would be a good move to teach him as well. He does know Focus Blast rather than Focus Punch now so don't mention that lol

Thunderbolt, Focus Blast, Grass Knot..4th move? I don't even have a clue..I like Volt Tackle though, powerful move. Shame recoil exist lol
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Old December 8th, 2011 (01:24 AM). Edited December 8th, 2011 by PikachuGuy.
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Raichu needs something like this....

Raichu @ Leftovers/Focus Sash
Timid nature
EV's: 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Attack, 6 HP

Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot
Substitute

You can run Focus Blast to deal with the Rocks.....however you're left open to Ground types. Grass Knot, in my opinion has better coverage. It hits Ground and Rocks. But it's up to you.
If you're going Physical, go with this

Raichu @ Leftovers
Jolly nature
EV's: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP

Thunder Punch
Brick Break
Substitute
Return

You can run Volt Tackle over T-Punch for more power, but the recoil will eventually take its toll. Focus Punch is good combo with Substitute, however I like Brick Break better, in my opinion. Return is just a filler...you could run Protect, Toxic, T-Wave....but it's entirely up to you.

Good luck!


Let me edit:

If you're gonna run a Dragonite, never use a Sassy nature! It hinders 'Nite's already slow speed. Use something like this

Dragonite @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Adamant nature
EV's: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP

Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch

Other options include: Dragon Claw for less power and more reliable, Roost to recover damage, Superpower to deal with Rock and Ice types, and Extreme Speed as a priority move.
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Quote originally posted by PikachuGuy:
Raichu needs something like this....

If you're gonna run a Dragonite, never use a Sassy nature! It hinders 'Nite's already slow speed. Use something like this

Dragonite @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Adamant nature
EV's: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP

Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch

Other options include: Dragon Claw for less power and more reliable, Roost to recover damage, Superpower to deal with Rock and Ice types, and Extreme Speed as a priority move.
Alright, well earlier today I restarted half the team. I replaced Dragonite with a newly bred Gabite (Garchomp, Speed). Even though he's banned, but I don't do tournaments. For the Raichu Help, got him maxed to level 100 anyway. I just put him in the box and he'll be for fun use rather than competitive as well. I'll keep that in mind, Jolly Raichu may fit for to my favor though.
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Old December 9th, 2011 (12:41 AM).
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Nice choice on Garchomp! I have one in my personal team with a Jolly nature, and in my opinion, it is the best non-Legendary Physical sweeper. Glad you were able to get one.

Anyways, I have a question for the experienced competitive battlers. I recently made a custom EV spread for Uxie. I am wondering what ya'll think about a mixed wall, for Special and Physical attacks. Moveset, EV spread, nature, and held item will be posted below.

Uxie @ Leftovers
Relaxed nature
EV's: 252 HP, 126 Defense, 126 Sp. Defense, 6 Sp. Attack

Extrasensory ---- Might switch for Psychic later on.
Toxic ------ Major annoyer, great for all walls in my opinion.
Amnesia ------- For bumping up Sp. Defense, since Defense is higher.
Yawn -------- May replace it for something else....since it's an easy move to avoid.

Well, post your opinions....or PM me. I appreciate it!
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Quote originally posted by PikachuGuy:
Nice choice on Garchomp! I have one in my personal team with a Jolly nature, and in my opinion, it is the best non-Legendary Physical sweeper. Glad you were able to get one.

Anyways, I have a question for the experienced competitive battlers. I recently made a custom EV spread for Uxie. I am wondering what ya'll think about a mixed wall, for Special and Physical attacks. Moveset, EV spread, nature, and held item will be posted below.

Uxie @ Leftovers
Relaxed nature
EV's: 252 HP, 126 Defense, 126 Sp. Defense, 6 Sp. Attack

Extrasensory ---- Might switch for Psychic later on.
Toxic ------ Major annoyer, great for all walls in my opinion.
Amnesia ------- For bumping up Sp. Defense, since Defense is higher.
Yawn -------- May replace it for something else....since it's an easy move to avoid.

Well, post your opinions....or PM me. I appreciate it!
Uxie is more of a team supporter than a dedicated wall, as seen here:
-Stealth Rock
-U-turn
-Thunder Wave/Toxic
-Psychic/Heal Bell/Yawn
Nature: Bold/Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Uxie has enough Speed to do whatever it needs to do before other defensive Pokemon can do anything and has enough natural bulk to take hits from faster Pokemon. Even though Uxie's defenses are naturally high, it's best to focus on its physical defense because it helps it to take Fighting attacks should it switch into them.

Also, when coming up with EV spreads, make sure that the amount you use for one stat is divisible by 4.
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Old December 11th, 2011 (06:51 AM).
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I'm planning on using a Multiscale Dragonite for my friend's upcoming tournament, where you are required to use a dragon type and something that resembles a dragon. I am wondering what is the best set to use for a multiscale Dragonite. Please help!
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I'm planning on using a Multiscale Dragonite for my friend's upcoming tournament, where you are required to use a dragon type and something that resembles a dragon. I am wondering what is the best set to use for a multiscale Dragonite. Please help!
Well it depends, since there's literally like 7 sets for Dragonite and all except one are based upon its Multiscale ability, which is seen to be the most useful.

Since 2 of those are for rain, that leaves you with about four sets. tbh, it basically depends on the Pokemon you have in your team.

You've got either the choice band set which doesn't last as long as the others if you're planning on switching in and out often unless you have a spinner (since it can't utilise multiscale if hazards are up, etc). The Dragon Dance sets both utilise DD as well as Roost. Then you've got the other DD set, making use of Substitute, aka multiscale is really useful then once you've got a Substitute up, and finally the t-wave set - you can't boost your stats but if you've got Pokemon that can set up hazards then that set can be really useful with Dragon Tail.

Aaand I'll just c/p them to make it easier.

1. Dragonite@Leftovers
Careful
Multiscale
252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
- Dragon Tail

(If you use SR/spikes/etc)

2. Dragonite@Leftovers
Careful
Multiscale
252 HP / 80 Def / 16 SpD / 160 Spe
- Substitute
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Roost

(Can last long etc)

3. Dragonite@Lum Berry / Leftovers
Adamant / Jolly
Multiscale
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage / Dragon Claw
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake / ExtremeSpeed / Roost

(Offensive)

4. Dragonite@Lum Berry / Leftovers
Adamant / Jolly
Multiscale
252 HP / 44 Atk / 212 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Fire Punch
- Roost

(Lasts longer than above due to bulk)

5. Dragonite@Choice Band
Adamant
Multiscale
60 HP / 252 Atk / 196 Spe
- Outrage
- ExtremeSpeed
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake / Brick Break / Dragon Claw

(Best not to switch in/out too often if opponents put up hazards, so could be really useful with a spinner)
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Old December 13th, 2011 (03:16 PM).
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Hey, I'm thinking of making a weather team for competitive play, so I was wondering, should I do a Rain Dance team, or a Sunny Day team?
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I personally like Sunny Day better than Rain Dance.

Lead with Ninetales. Drought + Speed is never a bad option. Plus, Pokemon with Chlorophyll--Venusaur, Victreebell, etc.--who have low speed to begin with now can outspeed quite a few opponents. Synthesis is a great recovery move if you got a staller. Solarbeam turns to one-turn hit as well as with STAB added on. Just my opinion...
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Imo, rain is easier because Politoed doesn't take 25% from SR (like Ninetails does) and it really helps common steel types by weakening fire attacks. also, water has better coverage imo.
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Since this is more of a question than a discussion, I'm moving this to the Simple Q&A Thread.

Also, rain is usually the better strategy of the two, since the Water-type isn't weak to Stealth Rock and has more useful resistances. Rain has more options to abuse the weather instead of just water moves, such as Thunder and Hurricane. Both are still good regardless.
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So I'm making a Modest/Choice Spec Flygon for the lolz, and I'm trying to figure out which moveset will give me the most coverage.

Currently I'm at Signal Beam, HP Rock, Giga Drain and Earth Power. This lets me hit everything but Normal, Fighting, Dragon and Ghost for x2 or more. I'm not too worried about Dragons but the other three are pretty "guh".

Is there another set I'm missing that has better coverage? I definitely want to keep Giga Drain, at least.
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Quote originally posted by Keiran777:
So I'm making a Modest/Choice Spec Flygon for the lolz, and I'm trying to figure out which moveset will give me the most coverage.

Currently I'm at Signal Beam, HP Rock, Giga Drain and Earth Power. This lets me hit everything but Normal, Fighting, Dragon and Ghost for x2 or more. I'm not too worried about Dragons but the other three are pretty "guh".

Is there another set I'm missing that has better coverage? I definitely want to keep Giga Drain, at least.
Specs Flygon isn't that great imo, but if you want to I'd go with:

Earth Power, Draco Meteor, Fire Blast and probably U-Turn or some other coverage move. U-Turn to scout, coverage move to cover.
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Old December 17th, 2011 (04:07 PM). Edited December 17th, 2011 by Ferallia.
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So I've usually bred and battled Pokemon with the ability to set up stealth rock and spikes (Swampert and Skarmory are my favorites for this task) But I was thinking about the less talked about Toxic spikes. Anyone use Toxic Spikes? I was also wondering if it was possible to put down something like Toxic Spikes and stealth rock at the same time? I know this strategy of mine leaves me open for spinners but I usually fight against my brother and his blasted OU team. I've specifically trained my team to take on his Tyranitar, Dragonite, Scizor, Yanmega, Honchkrow, and Lucario. I know none of these have the capacity for spinning. I was thinking along the line of having a Pokemon lay down toxic spikes and roaring to poison his entire team. Would this be a good strategy?

I currently have the following team

Jolteon Timid Nature
Yawn
Substitute
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power: Grass

Swampert Relaxed Nature
Ice Beam
Roar
Earthquake
Stealth Rock

Salamence Naive Nature
Draco Meteor
Brick Break
Fire Blast
Outrage

Gyarados Jolly Nature
Stone Edge
Bounce
Dragon Dance
Waterfall

Gengar Timid Nature
Pain Split
Substitute
Focus Blast
Shadowball

Dusknoir Impish Nature
Will-o-wisp
Earthquake
Ice punch
Pain Split

Jolteon in particular is my personal favorite. It took me months of breeding to finally get 31 IV's in all stats and get one with hidden power grass. It was worth it with a speed of 390 at level 100. Still, I'm wondering if there are teams that can punch holes in mine? I want to be able to cover my types well in a battle and I can't help but wonder if I should possibly replace Jolteon and Dusknoir with something else. I would prefer non legendaries.
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Probably the most appropriate thing I can think of is Forry, since it can set up both t-spikes and spikes, and provide spin support just incase. tbh I don't think you need two ghosts, especially since Gengar is 2HKO'd by SD and both are weak to Honchkrow, so I'd replace Forry with Dusknoir but it's up to you, and if you really want to keep Jolteon it doesn't necessarily need to be replaced. Either way, steels are really useful and fit really well into most teams - and help against Dragonite.
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Thats really true! I was thinking about Forretress for setting up spikes. So you can set up more than one type of spike in a battle? As for replacing Gengar, I was planning on using her against my bro's Lucario since she can hide behind a substitute and retaliate with a powerful focus punch. She's also used against his Mammoswine which he likes to use too. But I think Forry would make a decent tank. I wouldn't use it against his Honchkrow though because his Pokemon has both Overheat and Superpower which would hurt Forry pretty bad. Should I consider a Trick Room user? Or do you have to make a whole team revolve around that?
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Quote originally posted by Ferallia:
Thats really true! I was thinking about Forretress for setting up spikes. So you can set up more than one type of spike in a battle? As for replacing Gengar, I was planning on using her against my bro's Lucario since she can hide behind a substitute and retaliate with a powerful focus punch. She's also used against his Mammoswine which he likes to use too. But I think Forry would make a decent tank. I wouldn't use it against his Honchkrow though because his Pokemon has both Overheat and Superpower which would hurt Forry pretty bad. Should I consider a Trick Room user? Or do you have to make a whole team revolve around that?
Yes you can. Having 2 out of the 3 entry hazards up may be enough.

Just so you know, Honchkrow can't learn Overheat, but it can learn Heat Wave. Also, Forretress is neutral to Superpower, but it takes severe damage from Heat Wave.

Since some of your Pokemon are pretty fast, I don't think Trick Room is suited for this team.

May I suggest Jellicent over Dusknoir? It has a better defensive typing, as well as Recover:
-Scald/Surf
-Will-o-Wisp
-Recover
-Taunt/Shadow Ball/Ice Beam
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Hello I'm noob and I really don't get the ev training thing I figured I'd just train my pokemon against the elite 4.

I have serperior, excadrill,sawsbuck, unfezent. And was thinking of adding glaceyon and salemence to my team.

What pokemon would be best to fight to train up my Evs for each of my pokemon??

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Quote originally posted by movieguy12:
Hello I'm noob and I really don't get the ev training thing I figured I'd just train my pokemon against the elite 4.

I have serperior, excadrill,sawsbuck, unfezent. And was thinking of adding glaceyon and salemence to my team.

What pokemon would be best to fight to train up my Evs for each of my pokemon??

Thanks!!!
Most of your Pokemon are physically oriented, so for Attack EVs, go fight Patrat and Lillipup in Route 1 and for Speed EVs, fight Basculin in Route 1/3, Striaton City (if your Pokemon is weak to Water, then fight Woobat in Wellspring Cave instead). I wouldn't advise Glaceon; its move pool is terrible.
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My pokemon are lvl 50ish who might you recommend fighting now?
Also if nOt glaceyon what water or I've pokemon might you recommend? (from all 5 gens) thanks!
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You could battle Watchog and Herdier for Attack EVs, especially around that level. For Speed EVs go for Zebstrika and Swoobat, but Basculin can be found at high levels too.
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Say I'm building a team around CM Latias, what Pokemon do you think has great synergy with her?
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