Go Back   The PokéCommunity Forums > The PokéCommunity Archives > ARCHIVED: Battle Center
Reload this Page Simple Q&A Thread

Notices
For all updates, view the main page.

ARCHIVED: Battle Center This forum is designed for all of your Pokémon battling needs! The main forum is meant for discussions, battle requests, battle logs, and other threads related to battling. Look to the sub-forums for events and team help.



 
 
Thread Tools
  #651    
Old May 11th, 2012 (05:20 PM).
snogaws snogaws is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 56
The pokemon is in 4th generation, and was leveled up using rare candies. So I don't think it has any EV's. So am I just gonna have to get a new one and start over?
  #652    
Old May 11th, 2012 (05:39 PM).
tj4bigred's Avatar
tj4bigred tj4bigred is offline
Instant Classic
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Gender: Male
Nature: Quiet
Posts: 106
If it's level 100, I believe it is impossible to add anymore. I think I heard about some trick using your PC to add four at a time, but I'm not too familiar with it.

You'd have to start over.
  #653    
Old May 14th, 2012 (12:22 PM).
AdrianD's Avatar
AdrianD AdrianD is offline
Competitive Trainer
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Nature: Serious
Posts: 1,026
What does that stand for? I think its offensive Unit but not sure
  #654    
Old May 14th, 2012 (04:58 PM).
Forever's Avatar
Forever Forever is offline
let it go
Battle Server
BS
CS
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: http://goo.my/server
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Posts: 33,844
Quote originally posted by AdrianD:
What does that stand for? I think its offensive Unit but not sure
Nope, it means OverUsed. That's a tier which involves the Pokemon that are usually much stronger than the ones in NU etc, but not overpowered (since those are in ubers). Those in OU can be found here.
__________________
I'm paired with and in love with Frizy ♥
  #655    
Old May 14th, 2012 (06:04 PM).
Musica's Avatar
Musica Musica is offline
PPPPPDPPPPP
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Goldenrod City
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Nature: Timid
Posts: 722
Quote originally posted by snogaws:
The pokemon is in 4th generation, and was leveled up using rare candies. So I don't think it has any EV's. So am I just gonna have to get a new one and start over?
If you transferred this 4th Gen Pokemon to 5th Gen, you can EV Train it still by using Medicine and Feathers then deposit it and withdraw. I'm not however sure if you can EV Train by killing a Pokemon.
  #656    
Old May 14th, 2012 (07:04 PM).
PlatinumDude's Avatar
PlatinumDude PlatinumDude is offline
Nyeh?
Gold Tier
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Nature: Hasty
Posts: 11,902
Send a message via Yahoo to PlatinumDude Send a message via Skype™ to PlatinumDude
Quote originally posted by Musica:
If you transferred this 4th Gen Pokemon to 5th Gen, you can EV Train it still by using Medicine and Feathers then deposit it and withdraw. I'm not however sure if you can EV Train by killing a Pokemon.
I'm pretty sure that you can EV train a level 100 Pokemon by battling with wild Pokemon. They still give out EVs, don't they?
__________________

  #657    
Old May 15th, 2012 (07:14 PM).
Ursaring89 Ursaring89 is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 29
Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me with the last addition to my mostly mono-ice hail and trick room team for NU. My lead is Snover, Beheeyem for trick room and fighting type counter, Beartic for life orb attacker, Walrein for my wall (thick fat turns it into a reliable special wall as well), Armaldo for rapid spin and stealth rock support, and the last slot is what I'm stuck on. I don't know whether to use Lapras for curse, thunderbolt, blizzard, and Zenheadbutt, a Choice Banded Delibird to take advantage of Ariel ace and the hustle ability, or a Glaceon with choice specs and hidden power electric to cover water types. Remember, this is a combination of Hailstorm and Trick Room, so all of these Pokemon will be as slow as possible. As of now I'm leaning towards Delibird because with its STAB, +50% damage boost, a x2 attack bringing it to over 450, Ariel ace's base power climes to over 100, and Ariel ace never missing, it sounds like it might be fun to use and catch a lot of people off guard.
__________________
I only use pokemon I like, regardless of which tier they're in. I only claim to be in the RU tier simply because 5 of my favorites are from RU so I call it home.
  #658    
Old May 16th, 2012 (01:55 AM).
SoulRed12 SoulRed12 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 130
If I switch in espeon while a whimsicott uses encore, thanks to magic bounce does he end up encoring himself into using encore? Cuz that would be awesome =p
__________________
AKA sr12 on Shoddy!

What pokemon are you...?
  #659    
Old May 16th, 2012 (02:48 AM).
PlatinumDude's Avatar
PlatinumDude PlatinumDude is offline
Nyeh?
Gold Tier
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Nature: Hasty
Posts: 11,902
Send a message via Yahoo to PlatinumDude Send a message via Skype™ to PlatinumDude
Quote originally posted by SoulRed12:
If I switch in espeon while a whimsicott uses encore, thanks to magic bounce does he end up encoring himself into using encore? Cuz that would be awesome =p
Yes. Magic Bounce reflects most, if not all, status moves back at the opponent. In Encore's case, if it reflects back at the user, it fails.
__________________

  #660    
Old May 16th, 2012 (11:05 AM).
SoulRed12 SoulRed12 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 130
Quote originally posted by PlatinumDude:
Yes. Magic Bounce reflects most, if not all, status moves back at the opponent. In Encore's case, if it reflects back at the user, it fails.
Aww, alright. What sucks about that is Espeon could be in for some hurt if he uses u-turn. If he got encored into using encore, Espeon could set up screens and get out before he could do so.
__________________
AKA sr12 on Shoddy!

What pokemon are you...?
  #661    
Old May 16th, 2012 (01:51 PM).
OreoMaster OreoMaster is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 254
1. Is Blissey a good Pokemon to use in OU?

2. Is she a good user of Counter?

3. Isn't Defense Curl,Softboiled,Seismic Toss and Refresh a good idea on her? I mean she can fix her low Def issue and Refresh is to heal status without needing to switch.

Those following aren't questions concerning competitive battling but well, let me ask them since I have already opened up the topic Thank you good mods.

4. Is she difficult to find in Safari Zone and capture?

5. Did you know that she can take physical hits just like Aipom and Mr.Mime, a bit worse(almost exactly the same though) than Raichu,Roserade and even better than Alakazam?

6. Wouldn't Blissey be a great Pokemon id they gave her at least 30 base Def?

7. Why does she have such low Def ? I am not talking about the game as everything is about balance. A pink monster with vast HP and both defenses looking up the sky would be overpowered. I am talking about real life. Say she existed. What would make her have such little Def yet so much HP?

8. Wouldn't you yet prefer Blissey with these stats:
255 HP
10 Att
30 Def
10 Sp.Att
10 Sp
I would really prefer that. Blissey would be much more sturdy physically and besides her speed and sp.att are already useless.

9. Is Blissey good in-game apart from healing Pokemon outside of battle?
Does Alomomola do the same thing outside of battle(healing teammates)?

10. Why does Blissey's TGC card claim only 120-130 HP while Wailord's 200? Blissey has the highest HP. Also, Drifblim and Wigglytuff's cards claim a bigger HP than Alomomola's while Alomomola has more HP than them. I mean, in the games Blissey has the most HP yet in the card games she has way less than wailord,alomomola,wigglytuff etc
  #662    
Old May 16th, 2012 (02:09 PM). Edited May 16th, 2012 by Dark Azelf.
Dark Azelf's Avatar
Dark Azelf Dark Azelf is offline
Dream Evil.
Gold Tier
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Nature: Impish
Posts: 7,038
Quote originally posted by OreoMaster:
1. Is Blissey a good Pokemon to use in OU?

Yes, she is the best special wall in the game.

2. Is she a good user of Counter?

Kind of, but Eviolite Chansey does that better.

3. Isn't Defense Curl,Softboiled,Seismic Toss and Refresh a good idea on her? I mean she can fix her low Def issue and Refresh is to heal status without needing to switch.

Defense Curl sucks and doesnt help with what switches into Blissey see: Pokemon with Fighting moves which she should just switch out of anyway, she shouldnt try and take on physical threats she is a team supporter and special wall. Refresh doesnt help either thanks to Natural Cure, plus Aromatherapy/Heal Bell outclass it as the heal the whole team. Regardless Blissey DOES need max def evs to stop weak phys attacks from mashing her, plus her HP and titanic special defense let her wall special attackers with hardly any investment well enough regardless.

The best sets for Blissey are the following;

Blissey@Leftovers
148 HP / 252 Def / 108 Sp.Def
Calm Nature
Trait: Natural Cure
~ Wish
~ Protect / Softboiled
~ Seismic Toss / Flamethrower
~ Toxic

Pass massive Wishes to the rest of your team. Activate Wish for yourself and stall for Toxic damage with Protect. Attacking move is up to you. If you use Flamethrower, put about 80 sp.att evs taken from HP to KO Scizor on the switch, Flamethrower also nails the steels immune to Toxic. Btw her sp.att isnt useless, its actually quite usable.

Blissey@Leftovers
148 HP / 252 Def / 108 Sp.Def
Calm Nature
Trait: Natural Cure
~ Aromatherapy / Stealth Rock
~ Softboiled
~ Seismic Toss / Flamethrower / Ice Beam
~ Toxic / Thunderwave

Same thing here except this is a more support oriented set. Aroma heals the whole team of Status whilst Stealth Rock is Stealth Rock and arguable the best move in the game and causes residual damage. Thunderwave slows things down whilst Ice Beam is an option for Gliscor and dragons.



Those following aren't questions concerning competitive battling but well, let me ask them since I have already opened up the topic Thank you good mods.

4. Is she difficult to find in Safari Zone and capture?

Yes lol.

5. Did you know that she can take physical hits just like Aipom and Mr.Mime, a bit worse(almost exactly the same though) than Raichu,Roserade and even better than Alakazam?

Wrong, with max defense Evs she can take hits as a Max HP Spritiomb and Scizor.
Comments in bold. Yeahhhhh hope that helps.
__________________
Since the beginning of time, man has sought to know the unimaginable. To shake hands with the intangible. To measure the abstract with concrete gauges, to fit the mind of the infinite within the imagination of the finite. Nevermore.

  #663    
Old May 17th, 2012 (01:19 AM).
OreoMaster OreoMaster is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 254
Good answer buddy! I didn't know she could take hits like Spiritomb! I would never imagine that actually as Spiritomb is considerably durable. Anyway, seems that she has potential.
But still, without any EVs she can take a physical brawl just like Aipom and Mr.Mime and better than Alakazam.

As for the moveset I suggested, it was actually for my 'fun' team. You know, in these teams you choose Pokemon you like and make some crazy movesets. Just to have fun,not to win. Your movesets,although common, are indeed the best for Blissey.

Won't you answer the rest of my questions stranger?!
  #664    
Old May 17th, 2012 (11:57 AM).
SoulRed12 SoulRed12 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 130
Quote originally posted by OreoMaster:
6. Wouldn't Blissey be a great Pokemon id they gave her at least 30 base Def?
She'd be even better with base 50 def...or 70...or 160...or...

Quote:
7. Why does she have such low Def ? I am not talking about the game as everything is about balance. A pink monster with vast HP and both defenses looking up the sky would be overpowered. I am talking about real life. Say she existed. What would make her have such little Def yet so much HP?
Her high HP makes sense as she's basically a nurse/healer pokemon. But she's a pink blob. I hardly see her as being able to take a physical hit. How well do you think your feather pillow would take a Salamence outrage? Or in a more realistic sense, how well do you think your friendly local nurse could withstand a swift punch to the face from Jackie Chan?

Quote:
8. Wouldn't you yet prefer Blissey with these stats:
255 HP
10 Att
30 Def
10 Sp.Att
10 Sp
I would really prefer that. Blissey would be much more sturdy physically and besides her speed and sp.att are already useless.
Her special attack isn't actually useless when you consider that it's a healing and support poke primarily. If you give her ice beam, she could actually take out gliscor, who otherwise taunts and walls her thanks to protect and poison heal. Without ice beam he can even stall her out with toxic. As for speed, being able to outspeed at least SOME pokes means the difference between being able to switch in and then heal, and being able to switch in, get hit, and then get KOd on the next turn. Also consider that Blissey's signature move tends to be seismic toss; if she's up against e.g. slowbro, she can kill it before it manages to slack off and regain health.

Quote:
9. Is Blissey good in-game apart from healing Pokemon outside of battle?
Does Alomomola do the same thing outside of battle(healing teammates)?
I've never, ever used her or Chansey in-game. In-game battling is so much different than competitive. Softboiled might be useful as it can heal your pokemon outside of battle. I have no idea about Alomomola.

Quote:
10. Why does Blissey's TGC card claim only 120-130 HP while Wailord's 200? Blissey has the highest HP. Also, Drifblim and Wigglytuff's cards claim a bigger HP than Alomomola's while Alomomola has more HP than them. I mean, in the games Blissey has the most HP yet in the card games she has way less than wailord,alomomola,wigglytuff etc
Who knows? It's a trading card game. Why are bug type pokemon grass type cards? Why are ice type pokemon water type cards? Why are there attacks in the cards that don't exist in the game? Why can you evolve a pokemon while you're battling? Etc. It's a separate game, it doesn't need to follow all the rules of the video games.
__________________
AKA sr12 on Shoddy!

What pokemon are you...?
  #665    
Old May 18th, 2012 (06:59 AM).
Obesesniper93's Avatar
Obesesniper93 Obesesniper93 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 23
Couple questions:
1. Is Shuckle even midly competetive? I would assume it makes a good wall.
2. EV training is battling a pokemon against a wild pokemon whose dominant stat is the stat you want to increase, yes???
Or does the wild pokemon's stat have to be HIGHER than the pokemon you're EV training?
__________________
Tropius > Raquayza
  #666    
Old May 18th, 2012 (07:01 AM).
PlatinumDude's Avatar
PlatinumDude PlatinumDude is offline
Nyeh?
Gold Tier
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Nature: Hasty
Posts: 11,902
Send a message via Yahoo to PlatinumDude Send a message via Skype™ to PlatinumDude
Quote originally posted by Obesesniper93:
Couple questions:
1. Is Shuckle even midly competetive? I would assume it makes a good wall.
2. EV training is battling a pokemon against a wild pokemon whose dominant stat is the stat you want to increase, yes???
Or does the wild pokemon's stat have to be HIGHER than the pokemon you're EV training?
1. Not really. Its defensive typing isn't the best. Despite having high defenses, its low HP offsets them somewhat. It's also very susceptible to Taunt, and its nonexistent offenses mean that it has to rely on Toxic to deal damage. It doesn't have a reliable recovery move either.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Care to elaborate?
__________________

  #667    
Old May 18th, 2012 (07:08 AM).
Obesesniper93's Avatar
Obesesniper93 Obesesniper93 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 23
Awww. Shuckle is awesome, though :/ lol.

I am not too farmiliar with EV training. I read a couple "essays" or "articles" on EV training, but the grammar and spelling were akin to a 5 year old with a typewriter, so I don't really trust the source.
I'd love to learn more about it, as I rarely go halfway with things and I want to start breeding and training for "perfect pokemon".
I guess my question is REALLY: "do you have a link to a valid source of information about EV training?"
__________________
Tropius > Raquayza
  #668    
Old May 18th, 2012 (07:11 AM).
PlatinumDude's Avatar
PlatinumDude PlatinumDude is offline
Nyeh?
Gold Tier
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Nature: Hasty
Posts: 11,902
Send a message via Yahoo to PlatinumDude Send a message via Skype™ to PlatinumDude
Quote originally posted by Obesesniper93:
Awww. Shuckle is awesome, though :/ lol.

I am not too farmiliar with EV training. I read a couple "essays" or "articles" on EV training, but the grammar and spelling were akin to a 5 year old with a typewriter, so I don't really trust the source.
I'd love to learn more about it, as I rarely go halfway with things and I want to start breeding and training for "perfect pokemon".
I guess my question is REALLY: "do you have a link to a valid source of information about EV training?"
If you're playing Gen V, read this.
__________________

  #669    
Old May 18th, 2012 (07:12 AM).
Forever's Avatar
Forever Forever is offline
let it go
Battle Server
BS
CS
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: http://goo.my/server
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Posts: 33,844
Quote originally posted by Obesesniper93:
Awww. Shuckle is awesome, though :/ lol.

I am not too farmiliar with EV training. I read a couple "essays" or "articles" on EV training, but the grammar and spelling were akin to a 5 year old with a typewriter, so I don't really trust the source.
I'd love to learn more about it, as I rarely go halfway with things and I want to start breeding and training for "perfect pokemon".
I guess my question is REALLY: "do you have a link to a valid source of information about EV training?"
Adding to PlatDude's link, to keep it in the community, you could also check out PC's EV training guide if Smogon's is a little complicated.
__________________
I'm paired with and in love with Frizy ♥
  #670    
Old May 18th, 2012 (07:15 AM).
Obesesniper93's Avatar
Obesesniper93 Obesesniper93 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 23
Soulsivler That IS gen four, right?
I have a window open, reading a breeding article, on Smogon right now. I'll peek around.
Thanks!

I'll also check out the links.
__________________
Tropius > Raquayza
  #671    
Old May 18th, 2012 (07:19 AM).
Perrie ✿'s Avatar
Perrie ✿ Perrie ✿ is online now
11/05/1982 - 13/07/2013
Gold Tier
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: England
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Nature: Modest
Posts: 3,969
Quote originally posted by Obesesniper93:
Soulsivler :( That IS gen four, right?
I have a window open, reading a breeding article, on Smogon right now. I'll peek around.
Thanks! :)

I'll also check out the links.
Yes, Soulsilver is gen IV. If you're wanting an Ev training guide for it, go here. :)
__________________
1349 6159 4149
  #672    
Old May 20th, 2012 (02:11 AM).
SoulRed12 SoulRed12 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 130
Say pokemon A is faster than pokemon B. If pokemon B uses protect, and on the next turn pokemon A uses encore as pokemon B tries to use a different move, does it encore protect and change pokemon B's move to protect despite the fact that protect would go last? Or what would happen?
__________________
AKA sr12 on Shoddy!

What pokemon are you...?
  #673    
Old May 20th, 2012 (02:28 AM).
Forever's Avatar
Forever Forever is offline
let it go
Battle Server
BS
CS
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: http://goo.my/server
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Posts: 33,844
Quote originally posted by SoulRed12:
Say pokemon A is faster than pokemon B. If pokemon B uses protect, and on the next turn pokemon A uses encore as pokemon B tries to use a different move, does it encore protect and change pokemon B's move to protect despite the fact that protect would go last? Or what would happen?
Quote:
Start of turn 1
Vileplume used Protect!
Vileplume protected itself!

Requility's Infernape used Swords Dance!
Requility's Infernape's Attack sharply rose!

Start of turn 2
Requility's Infernape used Encore!
Vileplume received an encore!

Vileplume used Protect!
But if failed!
So yes, Protect will be encored and fail.
__________________
I'm paired with and in love with Frizy ♥
  #674    
Old May 20th, 2012 (07:17 AM).
Obesesniper93's Avatar
Obesesniper93 Obesesniper93 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 23
I was looking at the tiers for battles and noticed a column titled "BST."
What is this representing?
__________________
Tropius > Raquayza
  #675    
Old May 20th, 2012 (07:21 AM).
Forever's Avatar
Forever Forever is offline
let it go
Battle Server
BS
CS
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: http://goo.my/server
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Posts: 33,844
Quote originally posted by Obesesniper93:
I was looking at the tiers for battles and noticed a column titled "BST."
What is this representing?
It means base stat total - the total of all the the base stats a Pokemon has, added up. The highest base stat can go is up to 255, with the lowest at 1. Each stat, as in attack, special attack, etc, has an amount. It can be seen by the orange/yellow/red/green bars on the Pokemon's page.
__________________
I'm paired with and in love with Frizy ♥
 
Quick Reply

Sponsored Links
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are UTC -8. The time now is 02:45 AM.