4th Gen Help Thread

[bobandbill]

Fourth Generation Help Thread

Before asking your questions, please take a look at our FAQ And Known Information sticky.

Did you not find the answer you are looking for within the Fourth Generation FAQ? Then, you may ask your questions regarding the fourth generation games (DPPt/HGSS) here. Or, if you happen to know the answer to a question being asked, feel free to supply the user(s) with the given answer.

For reference's sake, you can visit the old HG/SS Help Threads here and here, and the old DPPt Help Thread here.

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Well, ask (or answer) away!

[Skuntank]

i know that in black/white reshiram, zekrom, victini, etc can't be used online but in hg/ss can the legendaries be battled with online?

[Amore]

Well, I can't offer a perfect answer, but in Pt/Hg/Ss if you play Battle Frontier online the rules of normal BF will ensue so the following will be banned:

Mewtwo
Mew
Lugia
Ho-oh
Celebi
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza
Jirachi
Deoxys (all formes)
Rotom (formes. Normal Rotom is allowed)
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina (All formes)
Phione
Manaphy
Darkrai
Shaymin (all formes)
Arceus
Spiky-Eared Pichu
Eggs

Hope this helps :)

[FrostPheonix]

Originally Posted by Skuntank

i know that in black/white reshiram, zekrom, victini, etc can't be used online but in hg/ss can the legendaries be battled with online?

As said above, that goes with most legends on the battle frontier. Should you play in the wifi part of the pokecenter (forgot what its called...), there is no such restriction.

[ltsang]

Hello. I'm trying to hatch a lapras with the ability of water absorb and nature is jolly. So far I'm not getting any luck. Oh genders does not matter. And a egg move of DD. Is there any other way to do it. I've also tried with dittos.

[dragonomega]

Originally Posted by ltsang

Hello. I'm trying to hatch a lapras with the ability of water absorb and nature is jolly. So far I'm not getting any luck. Oh genders does not matter. And a egg move of DD. Is there any other way to do it. I've also tried with dittos.

First off, make sure one of the parents has a Jolly Nature, it does not matter which, just as long as one has it. Once you have a Jolly nature'd parent, give it an Everstone, this gives you a 50% chance of passing down the Jolly nature. As for the ability, that's luck.

Originally Posted by Skuntank

i know that in black/white reshiram, zekrom, victini, etc can't be used online but in hg/ss can the legendaries be battled with online?

Actually, for online play any Pokemon can be used. \: Zekrom/Victini are banned from standard play (OU and below) and Victini is banned from UU and below. The Pokemon that are banned from the standard play in HG/SS are the Pokemon that are placed in the Uber tier for that generation (4th) so it would be; Mewtwo, Mew, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Latios, Latias, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Wobbuffet, Wynaut, Deoxys (All forms), Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, Giratina-O, Shaymin (Sky Form), Manaphy, Arceus, Darkrai and Garchomp.

[Karpman]

Originally Posted by ltsang

Hello. I'm trying to hatch a lapras with the ability of water absorb and nature is jolly. So far I'm not getting any luck. Oh genders does not matter. And a egg move of DD. Is there any other way to do it. I've also tried with dittos.

I'm no breeder, son, but I'll see what I can do. For a Jolly Dragon Dancing Lapras, you'll want a female Lapras as the mother and a Jolly Male Horsea [or member of the Horsea evolutionary family] with Dragon Dance [learned by Horsea at Lv. 38] as the Father and make sure the Horsea is holding an everstone. I honestly have no idea how to receive Water Absorb on your Lapras, but it may help if the Lapras you're breeding with has Water Absorb as its ability.

[Elixir]

In my Pokemon Pearl game, it's recently come to my attention that when my Machamp uses Seismic Toss, although it is said to be a Fighting Move, if I use it on pokemon that fighting is normally super effective on, (say, a Bibarrel or something) it is not super effective. I could use Cross Chop or Karate Chop on the pokemon, and it would be super effective, but for some reason, Seismic Toss is not. It's been confusing me for a while. Can anyone explain this?

[PokéSwimmer]

Originally Posted by Elixir

In my Pokemon Pearl game, it's recently come to my attention that when my Machamp uses Seismic Toss, although it is said to be a Fighting Move, if I use it on pokemon that fighting is normally super effective on, (say, a Bibarrel or something) it is not super effective. I could use Cross Chop or Karate Chop on the pokemon, and it would be super effective, but for some reason, Seismic Toss is not. It's been confusing me for a while. Can anyone explain this?

Seismic Toss does damage equivalent to the level your Pokémon is regardless of typing. For example, a level 50 Machamp's Seismic toss will always do 50 hit-points of damage.

[Nato4eyes]

Hi, When SRing for a shiny starter in Pearl, when can you first see its shininess? Like in the pokeball or in the first battle?

[bobandbill]

It'd be in the first battle - afaik the only starters that will show up as shiny in the 'choose a starter!' screen/pokeballs are the HGSS ones.

[Sammuthegreat]

Howdy. I'm midway through a Nuzlocke of SoulSilver at the moment. I lost my Water Pokemon (a Vaporeon) against Clair, and then caught a Poliwag in Blackthorn City straight afterwards. I evolved her into a Politoed and she's currently on my team. Brave nature, Water Absorb as the ability.

Trouble is, on the way to beating Lugia I then caught a Horsea, Bashful nature, Swift Swim ability. I now really can't make my mind up as to which to use. They're both awesome Pokemon able to use Surf and Waterfall well, as well as Ice Beam. Obviously Kingdra only has 1 weakness (not the best weakness when I've got to beat Lance), but Politoed only has 2, and is better defensively.

Help me!

EDIT: I really like both of them as Pokemon and would love to use either, but there's no point having 2 Water-types on my team, even if Kingdra is part-Dragon. I'd just really like someone to choose for me!

[Kamikl]

Kingdra is more powerful, also, Politoed's level up moveset is quite small.
If you want more of a challenge, use Politoed, but if you want to breeze through the game, use kingdra.

[ltsang]

All though I have kingdra for my wifi battles. I like them both as well. I would trained them both, but unfortunately my 4th gen crashes that I can't play.

[bobandbill]

I'll move this to the Help thread so people can give more opinions if they wish, seeing this is a question thread.

[PikachuGuy]

Aloha, everyone.

I am wanting to complete my dream team and all I need is Mew. I was wondering if you can buy Diamond or Pearl and connect to Pokemon Ranch and get Mew that way, THEN transfer him to Diamond or Pearl and then transfer to Heart Gold. Would that work? I don't have wifi, so I can't trade with anyone.


Also, to Mods: Feel free to move this post to another thread (if it's in the wrong thread).

[bobandbill]

It's in the right thread.

And yes, that would work as long as you have a 2nd DS to transfer from DP to HGSS. Just make sure it's not Platinum as that would not work with Ranch (lame, I know).

[Flashmeteor]

Is it possible to get a Shiny Stone in HGSS before beating the E4?

Also would having both Crobat and Togekiss in my team be too much of a disadvantage?

[.,AhKeno*]

What's good place to train lvl 23s in SS, without sharing(like not going to th pkmleague and swtiching)??

and also =D! whats a good moveset for a Nidorino, yea Nidorino not Nidoking lol.??

[p3ndu1um]

Originally Posted by .,AhKeno*

What's good place to train lvl 23s in SS, without sharing(like not going to th pkmleague and swtiching)??

and also =D! whats a good moveset for a Nidorino, yea Nidorino not Nidoking lol.??

I'd say route 48 and the Ice Path, similiar level pokemon to the pokemon you want to train. On route 48 its all Grass type plus Lickitung and Ice Path has Swinub, Jynx, Delibird and Golbats. Hope this helps.

[FrostPheonix]

Originally Posted by Flashmeteor

Is it possible to get a Shiny Stone in HGSS before beating the E4?

Also would having both Crobat and Togekiss in my team be too much of a disadvantage?

You could trade. Other than that, nope, you get it from the pokéathlon halls and from the bug catching contest, and both give them out only after u finish the league. Don't worry, you could always trade.

[~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~]

Originally Posted by Flashmeteor

Is it possible to get a Shiny Stone in HGSS before beating the E4?

Also would having both Crobat and Togekiss in my team be too much of a disadvantage?

First Question was answered so I'll try to answer the second. Well what do you mean by your team, do you mean competitive wise or for the in game play. Because if so, those two Pokemon aren't bad for the in game play, now as for Competitive wise, I'm not that sure.


TG

[Skuntank]

Ev train question:

Let's say that I kill 200 goldeen to get all the Attack evs i need. But, my poke only leveled up to 50. Will it still get the preferred attack stat at lv 100 if I stop killing those goldeens. If it's complicated to answer I'll rewrite the question more clear on my computer later.

[FrostPheonix]

Originally Posted by Skuntank

Ev train question:

Let's say that I kill 200 goldeen to get all the Attack evs i need. But, my poke only leveled up to 50. Will it still get the preferred attack stat at lv 100 if I stop killing those goldeens. If it's complicated to answer I'll rewrite the question more clear on my computer later.

Once you max out ur attack evs then u dont need to up it. seeing as that each goldeen will give 1 attack ev, you wont max it out. But, at level hundred you will get all 50 points (200/4). it just adds up a little later, you wont get all those points instantly.
tell me if that sounds wierd, ill try rephrasing it.

[HeckYeahSeaking]

I've recently started a few breeding projects of sorts.
My first question is which Skarmory should I use
The moves I plan on teaching it are Drill peck, Roost, Metal wing, and Spikes(or Aerial ace)

-Docile nature, strong willed, happily eats anything (not sure if the last two make a difference but might as well put it there)

-Lax nature, somewhat stubborn, likes sour food.
-Timid nature, good endurance, likes sweet food.

Also what would be a good nature for a Magby with thunder punch and a Gabite with outrage.