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Old June 16th, 2011 (12:15 AM).
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Hi, im trying to build a good team for my competative battling and really need some help! So i need you poke experts to rate my team and give me feed back! I only have 4 pokemon in my team at the minute and neeed some help! thank you

LV50
Lucario
Phsychic,Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse
ATK.130
DEF.81
SP.ATK.137
SP.def.90
Speed.108

LV73
Dragonite
Aqua tail,flamethrower,thunderbolt,Draco meteor.
ATK.225
DEF.173
SP.ATK.177
SP.def.191
Speed. 135

LV91
Flygon
Hyper Beam,Fissure,Feint,Earthpower
ATK.204
DEF.176
SP.ATK.171
SP.def.167
Speed. 208

LV50
Blissy
Calm mind,Thunderbolt,Softboiled,Double edge.
ATK.22
DEF.19
SP.ATK.87
SP.def.129
Speed. 75

LV100
Absol
Physco cut,Night slash, Swords Dance, Suckerpunch.
ATK.394
DEF.156
SP.ATK.167
SP.def.157
Speed.249
Item,Razor claw

I need your help to recommned a 6th pokemon and if i should change any of the original ones (like flygon-his stats are pretty bad for a level 91.) What Evs i should train up to maxamise there potential and any moves i should change and what items to give them.

Thanks for Helping
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Old June 16th, 2011 (05:37 PM).
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Hi there, InspectorH. Instead of rebuilding your team for you, I'm going to give some pointers and tips that I think might help out. (also I'm assuming this is fourth or fifth gen Pokemon - if it's like GBA stuff you probably shouldn't listen to this advice since a lot of mechanics changed from third to fourth gen). edit: owait you have draco meteor and feint nvm this is gen 4+ for sure

First of all, when you're building the sets of your Pokemon, you'll want to take into account their strengths. I mean, taking a look at Dragonite's stats, I think you'd agree with me that his normal Attack stat is better than his Special Attack stat, isn't it? Why are you using all of those specially-based moves if it's working off of his lesser attack stat? Dragonite could run a mixed set (meaning, both physically- and specially-based attacks), sure, but then it should be more physically-inclined because that's its better stat. By using the best stats it has, you start to maximize a Pokemon's potential and make them a lot more useful.

Flygon's got a lot of issues. Firstly, yeah, his stats are definitely lower than they should be. This could be because of poor IVs or just some unlucky EV training or something. Next, the same rules apply as to what I said about Dragonite - maximize its potential by using its strongest stats! Earth Power and Hyper Beam are both Special moves, meaning they work off of his SpA (Special Attack abbreviation). You should try to use Physical attacks to use its better attacking stat. Now, on the note of Hyper Beam, it's a move you want to avoid using. Sure, it looks super powerful, but it's really not as good as you think, because once you use it, the opponent has a free turn to do whatever they want. There's no attack powerful enough to make up for giving the opponent free turns.

Next on Flygon's issue list is Fissure. In general, OHKO moves are banned from competitive play in almost all circumstances. No one likes to be coasting to a win to all of a sudden be OHKOd because someone randomly had an OHKO move. It's considered a cheap move in general and no one wants to be on the receiving end, so it's mutually agreed upon that no one uses OHKO moves. (Plus 30 accuracy sucks ;;). Lastly, Feint is a really bad move. Why? It requires the opponent to use Protect/Detect so that it can hit, and it only has 50 base power even when it does work. There are a lot of much much much better moves to use there instead of Feint.

Blissey's best job is to be a Special wall - to suck up any specially-based attacks with her huge bulk. She's not something that wants to set up with Calm Mind because she's a team supporter first and foremost. There are all kinds of moves you can run on Blissey, and Softboiled (or Wish + Protect) is the only necessary one I think. You can run Toxic, Stealth Rock, Flamethrower (to hit things like Scizor on the switch in), Seismic Toss (to deal reliable damage since Blissey's attacking stats aren't too hot), etc. Also, speaking of attacking stats, have you seen Blissey's Attack? It's got a 22 Attack stat. The -last- thing it should be doing is using Double-Edge.

Absol looks like it has a fair set, actually.

When you do post your team to be rated, it'd be great if you can post your Natures, EVs (if you can), and the items that they have too. I can't recommend any of those things since a) I'm lazy and b) I don't really want to build your team for you but if you come up with your own I'll do my best to rate it and help you make it better. Good luck with your team.
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Old June 17th, 2011 (02:11 PM).
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Thanks loads for the Advice Vrai it will really help alot I know that dragonites SP.A is lower but i couldnt think of any strong elemental type moves that were physical :/ and seeing as ice is his main weakness i thought flame thrower would be a good shout to counter that. I have just transfered my team on to White and think i will change Draco meteor for Outrage now that its a physical move. ( i got dragonite in hoenn and outrage used to be a special move i belive?) I think il remove flygon from my team now that im on white and as you have pointed out he has A LOT of problems. And thanks for the advice on blissy i just really had calm mind to help with thunderbolt, but seismic toss is a good call il definatly use that and proberbly steath rock as well and change Double edge *cringe* for toxic.
Absol is my beast and helps me out in tight spots, With the ability of Super luck and 2 increase critical hits move plus razor claw he can usally be relied on to do some damage with a 25% chance of getting critical
What about lucario? he is pretty solid but im not sure about dark pulse :/
As for items
Wise glasses for lucario
Luck punch for chansey
Persim berry for dragonite
Razor claw for absol

Thanks loads for you help
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Old June 17th, 2011 (03:55 PM).
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Quote originally posted by InspectorH:
Thanks loads for the Advice Vrai it will really help alot :) I know that dragonites SP.A is lower but i couldnt think of any strong elemental type moves that were physical :/ and seeing as ice is his main weakness i thought flame thrower would be a good shout to counter that. I have just transfered my team on to White and think i will change Draco meteor for Outrage now that its a physical move. ( i got dragonite in hoenn and outrage used to be a special move i belive?) I think il remove flygon from my team now that im on white and as you have pointed out he has A LOT of problems. And thanks for the advice on blissy i just really had calm mind to help with thunderbolt, but seismic toss is a good call il definatly use that :) and proberbly steath rock as well and change Double edge *cringe* for toxic.
Absol is my beast and helps me out in tight spots, With the ability of Super luck and 2 increase critical hits move plus razor claw he can usally be relied on to do some damage with a 25% chance of getting critical :)
What about lucario? he is pretty solid but im not sure about dark pulse :/
As for items
Wise glasses for lucario
Luck punch for chansey
Persim berry for dragonite
Razor claw for absol

Thanks loads for you help :)
Well, to be honest with you, most people decide to run mix sets if they can't balance between physical and special. I'm not so sure what the exact moveset and EVs are and whatnot for Mix Dragonite(252 Atk/252 SpAtk/6 HP maybe?), but if you really want flamethrower to counter all of your steels that might wall your outrage, you'd best go with that, then. Also, probably go with a Lonely/Mild Nature if anything else, though I'm not so sure if that's the best choice to go either. .__.;

And, I don't have a problem with you relying so much on criticals, but do keep in mind that they are based on luck, and that you'd be taking quite the heavy chance attempting to critical your opponent. What if your criticals don't work out the way you want them to? Absol is a fairly frail Pokemon. While it can hit hard in certain circumstances, it falls easily to a lot of things(such a Mach Punch or Vaccum Wave from Lucario), so I'd watch out for those if I were you. Priority attacks can be in a pain in the neck to deal with. Then again, you have Sucker Punch, so I guess it's all a matter of prediction, then. I doubt it'll do much to those who utilize aforementioned moves, which is why it'd be best if you switch out Absol anyway.

As for your Lucario, I would suggest something like Choice Specs over Wise Glasses. As far as I know. Wise Glasses only boosts your special attacks by a certain percentage, while Choice Specs raises it even higher than that. The only disadvantage to choice specs is that you pretty much get locked into one move, so when you pick a move, choose wisely, cause that will determine whether the tables get turned on you or not, depending on what your opponent sends out.

I wouldn't so much count on Persim Berry as I would Lum Berry, if you're really on the lookout for status. As far as I know. Will-o-wisp seems pretty common, so I'd definitely avoid that if I were you.

And Razor Claw...I really wouldn't know a good substitution for that. Hopefully one of the other raters would come by and help me out a bit on this, cause I'm not entirely sure myself.

And I almost forgot...Dark Pulse...are you able to replace that with Vaccum Wave, by any chance? Or Perhaps put Nasty Plot somewhere in there. If you don't want to run Specs(which I suspect will not work anyway), then Nasty Plot Lucario is your best other alternative.

Nasty Plot/Vaccume wave/Aura Sphere/Shadow Ball(to counter ghosts and whatever resists Vacuum wave and Aura Sphere).

If you're playing OU, then this Lucario would put quite the number on Pokemon like Hydreigon and perhaps other Lucario that may stand in your way.

Anyway, that's all the advice that I have for now. Happy Battling~!
 
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