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Old February 29th, 2012 (07:38 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Tofutheenderman:
I pretty much looked on the grass and i got tired of looking for it..Is annoying to be honest and will be more annoying if is not actually there like on the problem i have with route 119...Again aside from that, what ability suggestions are you looking for?
You can find Charmander here:


As for the abilities, I'm open to any suggestions so if you have any just let me know, I'll try and fix Route 119.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (07:53 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Suicune™:


You can find Charmander here:


As for the abilities, I'm open to any suggestions so if you have any just let me know, I'll try and fix Route 119.
Thats the spot where i don't seem to get it. I click in front of that tall grass and nothing happens or walk in and click.

As for abilities, what about Blaziken having Speed boost as secondary? Like in the 5th gen. Not sure if that can be done.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (08:17 AM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Blue.
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I can add second abilities, I'll do it during my next update.

Also, try here now:



Just download the attachment (It's still named 7.1 but it's been slightly edited/tweaked)
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Old February 29th, 2012 (09:29 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Suicune™:
I can add second abilities, I'll do it during my next update.

Also, try here now:



Just download the attachment (It's still named 7.1 but it's been slightly edited/tweaked)
Well i went there but all i see is an invisible block where the pokeball is suppose to be. There is something but cant be picked up or touched.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (09:44 AM).
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This Game looks very Promising. And i will definitely send reply after i have played the game. And thanx for putting in your time for us. Thank you on behalf of everyone that plays this game.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (10:50 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Suicune™:
As for the abilities, I'm open to any suggestions so if you have any just let me know.

Despite losing chlorophyll, drought would also suit bellossom. It has several pokedex entries talking about it's dance to summon the sun.

I had a few ideas but at the moment I've forgotten them all

Man... if you give blaziken speed boost and bellossom drought i'll have to restart the game from scratch for a 4th time. This might be the most invested in a hack i've ever been. Kudos. I actually care about EVs in this game and that's saying something
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Old February 29th, 2012 (12:00 PM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Blue.
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Quote originally posted by Zetsubou Johnny:
Despite losing chlorophyll, drought would also suit bellossom. It has several pokedex entries talking about it's dance to summon the sun.

I had a few ideas but at the moment I've forgotten them all

Man... if you give blaziken speed boost and bellossom drought i'll have to restart the game from scratch for a 4th time. This might be the most invested in a hack i've ever been. Kudos. I actually care about EVs in this game and that's saying something

Well.. like I say I don't really pay attention to abilities/secondary abilities so whatever suggestions you have I'm happy to try out and thank-you!


Quote originally posted by seto123:
This Game looks very Promising. And i will definitely send reply after i have played the game. And thanx for putting in your time for us. Thank you on behalf of everyone that plays this game.
Anytime, and thanks for the kind words!


Alright so I took those ideas on and changed some more myself, the following changes to abilities are:

Bellossom now has the second ability - Drought
Blaziken now has the second ability - Speed Boost
Sceptile now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Swampert now has the second ability - Sturdy
Magneton now has the second ability - Levitate
Swellow now has the second ability - Keen Eye
Miltank now has the second ability - Clear Body
Donphan now has the second ability - Rock Head
Huntail now has the second ability - Water Absorb
Gorebyss now has the second ability - Cute Charm

~ Open to more suggestions + planning to add more.

- These can be downloaed in Beta 7.23!
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Old February 29th, 2012 (12:56 PM).
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Dream World FTW. Really nice job Suicune. I'll delete my save file to play this hack again.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (03:24 PM).
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Scizor with Pure Power
Breloom with Pure Power
Sharpedo with Speed boost
Walrein with Water Absorb
Cacturne with Rough skin (Not sure, just saying since his a cactus maybe some contact can cause some damage.)

Thats all i have in my brain for now...
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Old February 29th, 2012 (03:27 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Suicune™:



Well.. like I say I don't really pay attention to abilities/secondary abilities so whatever suggestions you have I'm happy to try out and thank-you!




Anytime, and thanks for the kind words!


Alright so I took those ideas on and changed some more myself, the following changes to abilities are:

Bellossom now has the second ability - Drought
Blaziken now has the second ability - Speed Boost
Sceptile now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Swampert now has the second ability - Sturdy
Magneton now has the second ability - Levitate
Swellow now has the second ability - Keen Eye
Miltank now has the second ability - Clear Body
Donphan now has the second ability - Rock Head
Huntail now has the second ability - Water Absorb
Gorebyss now has the second ability - Cute Charm

~ Open to more suggestions + planning to add more.

- These can be downloaed in Beta 7.23!
The second abilities aren't working. Spent 20 minutes softresetting and never got a starter torchic with speed boost. Went to the catchable torchic with a trace ralts and after close to 40 resets saw no speedboost. Even tried breeding them and got nothing.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (03:33 PM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Tofutheenderman.
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Quote originally posted by Zetsubou Johnny:
The second abilities aren't working. Spent 20 minutes softresetting and never got a starter torchic with speed boost. Went to the catchable torchic with a trace ralts and after close to 40 resets saw no speedboost. Even tried breeding them and got nothing.
Because is Blaziken who gets it on evolving...

Edit: The 2nd abilities are working fine so far. Just found my first Miltank with Clear Body. The blossom one is not working unless i'm being very unlucky to get the 2nd ability...On the bright side i found Latias out of the farming for Glooms. I was shocked.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:02 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Zetsubou Johnny:
The second abilities aren't working. Spent 20 minutes softresetting and never got a starter torchic with speed boost. Went to the catchable torchic with a trace ralts and after close to 40 resets saw no speedboost. Even tried breeding them and got nothing.
Yeah, it's only Blaziken who has the speed boost, although I can add it to Torchic/Combusken and do the same with the other starters.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:04 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Tofutheenderman:
Because is Blaziken who gets it on evolving...

Edit: The 2nd abilities are working fine so far. Just found my first Miltank with Clear Body. The blossom one is not working unless i'm being very unlucky to get the 2nd ability...On the bright side i found Latias out of the farming for Glooms. I was shocked.
That is extremely troublesome. I can be spending hours/days raising a pokemon without knowing it's proper ability. Dream world pokemon have the same abilities since their first stage so should these.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:06 PM).
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Here are some suggestions.

- Politoed with Drizzle
- Ninetales with Drought
- Swampert with Swift Swim ( Sturdy is useless, it's unfortuately not like 5th gen which prevents a OHKO
- Give Seviper a better movepool / Base Stats. I've always liked Seviper, but it's just too weak for me to use.

If I think of more, I'll let you know :]
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:08 PM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Tofutheenderman.
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Quote originally posted by Suicune™:


Yeah, it's only Blaziken who has the speed boost, although I can add it to Torchic/Combusken and do the same with the other starters.
I found a problem. Pokemon like Kunbusken (whatever is spelled) and Gloom (for example) wont learn there 2nd ability wen they evolve, must be something with the scripting or whatever. BUT i found a solution for it. Since gloom can be found in the wild, you can add it Drought and since is by encounter rate it will come out with Drought or its original ability. wen evolved they will keep the ability. But if is there original one they will evolve with that ability. :D

Edit: Made the test my self so it works. Clearing what i said. Starter pokemons should have the option of coming out with second or first ability from the first pre-evolution like Torchic ect. Still not sure why can't be out of the random wen you have them already and evolve them but is how is working for me. I found 3 bellosom in the wild. 2 of them had Drought so the ability are working but only if there found in the wild.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:29 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Tofutheenderman:
I found a problem. Pokemon like Kunbusken (whatever is spelled) and Gloom (for example) wont learn there 2nd ability wen they evolve, must be something with the scripting or whatever. BUT i found a solution for it. Since gloom can be found in the wild, you can add it Drought and since is by encounter rate it will come out with Drought or its original ability. wen evolved they will keep the ability. But if is there original one they will evolve with that ability. :D

Edit: Made the test my self so it works. Clearing what i said. Starter pokemons should have the option of coming out with second or first ability from the first pre-evolution like Torchic ect. Still not sure why can't be out of the random wen you have them already and evolve them but is how is working for me. I found 3 bellosom in the wild. 2 of them had Drought so the ability are working but only if there found in the wild.
well then there's also catchable versions of all the starters as well, so they can specifically have the secondary abilities.

But I seriously suggest making the entire line know the ability. In normal pokemon games when a 2nd or 3rd stage pokemon learn different abilities usually the pre-stage pokemon knows a different ability to signify that it's ability will be that. EXAMPLE: in generation4 a tyroge can know guts and steadfast. However when evolved into a hitmontop if that tyroge knew guts its ability will always be intimidate and if its ability used to be steadfast its ability would be technician. so when evolving you could at least predict what ability it would have. i suggest you give some indication of what it's final ability would be or something. Its a bit unfair for us to have to play the game and pray we get lucky.

Also a sharpedo with speedboost would be nice as well. to coincide with it's dream would ability.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:30 PM).
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Alright so I've added some more abilities and one more move change (Beta 7.27)


Torchic now has the second ability Speed Boost
Combusken now has the second ability Speed Boost
Treeko now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Grovyle now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Mudkip now has the second ability Swift Swim
Marshtomp now has the second ability Swift Swim
Swampert now has the second ability Swift Swim
Scizor now has the second ability Pure Power
Breloom now has the second ability Pure Power
Tauros now has the second ability Pure Power
Stantler now has the second ability Pure Power
Altaria now has the second ability Pure Power
Pidgeot now has the second ability Guts
Carvanha now has the second ability Speed Boost
Sharpedo now has the second ability Speed Boost
Walrein now has the second ability Water Absorb
Cacturne now has the second ability Rough Skin
Persian now has the second ability Intimidate


Swampert now learns Rain Dance at Level 40 - To tie in with Swift Swim ability
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:38 PM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Tofutheenderman.
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Quote originally posted by Zetsubou Johnny:
well then there's also catchable versions of all the starters as well, so they can specifically have the secondary abilities.

But I seriously suggest making the entire line know the ability. In normal pokemon games when a 2nd or 3rd stage pokemon learn different abilities usually the pre-stage pokemon knows a different ability to signify that it's ability will be that. EXAMPLE: in generation a tyroge can know guts and steadfast. However when evoked into a hitmontop if that tyroge knew guts its ability will always be intimidate and if its ability used to be steadfast its ability would be technician. so when evolving you could at least predict what ability it would have. i suggest you give some indication of what it's final ability would be or something. Its a bit unfair for us to have to play the game and pray we get lucky.

Also a sharpedo with speedboost would be nice as well. to coincide with it's dream would ability.
This is the problem with evolving with a certain ability. Example: If you found a Torchic with Blaze and evolve it to Combusken it will have Blaze EVEN if its has Speed boost as secondarily ability. Because they ascend there last ability. Now, if you Found a Torchic with Blaze again and evolve it intl Combusken with only speed boost. That will change completely. Is like this also. Blaze-Blaze-Blaze (Blaze-blaze-Speed boost if Blaziken only has speed boost as only option in its ability.) Other wise it wont change ability on its final evolution. Thats why it has to be from Torchic to Combusken and Blaziken with the same line of abilities. So the problem here is having the luck to find that Torchic with Speed boost that will change to Combusken with speed boost and so on. Is is Blaze it will be the same but all ends into Blaze.

Quote originally posted by Suicune™:
Alright so I've added some more abilities and one more move change (Beta 7.27)


Torchic now has the second ability Speed Boost
Combusken now has the second ability Speed Boost
Treeko now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Grovyle now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Mudkip now has the second ability Swift Swim
Marshtomp now has the second ability Swift Swim
Swampert now has the second ability Swift Swim
Scizor now has the second ability Pure Power
Breloom now has the second ability Pure Power
Tauros now has the second ability Pure Power
Stantler now has the second ability Pure Power
Altaria now has the second ability Pure Power
Pidgeot now has the second ability Guts
Carvanha now has the second ability Speed Boost
Sharpedo now has the second ability Speed Boost
Walrein now has the second ability Water Absorb
Cacturne now has the second ability Rough Skin
Persian now has the second ability Intimidate


Swampert now learns Rain Dance at Level 40 - To tie in with Swift Swim ability
Pidgey and Pidgoto Must have Guts too so they can ascend with the same line to Pegeot. Sycther must have Pure power so it can ascend it wen evolve anything that is already evolved with a 2nd ability there pre-evolution must have it too so we can get them unless the evolution can be found in the wild
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Old February 29th, 2012 (04:51 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Suicune™:
Alright so I've added some more abilities and one more move change (Beta 7.27)


Torchic now has the second ability Speed Boost
Combusken now has the second ability Speed Boost
Treeko now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Grovyle now has the second ability Chlorophyll
Mudkip now has the second ability Swift Swim
Marshtomp now has the second ability Swift Swim
Swampert now has the second ability Swift Swim
Scizor now has the second ability Pure Power
Breloom now has the second ability Pure Power
Tauros now has the second ability Pure Power
Stantler now has the second ability Pure Power
Altaria now has the second ability Pure Power
Pidgeot now has the second ability Guts
Carvanha now has the second ability Speed Boost
Sharpedo now has the second ability Speed Boost
Walrein now has the second ability Water Absorb
Cacturne now has the second ability Rough Skin
Persian now has the second ability Intimidate


Swampert now learns Rain Dance at Level 40 - To tie in with Swift Swim ability
don't forget the oddish gloom and vileplume
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Old February 29th, 2012 (05:05 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Zetsubou Johnny:
don't forget the oddish gloom and vileplume
Not sure of they will be needed since you can find a bellosom right off the bat but yeah that too. All i know is that every line must have there 2nd abilities too just to have the line option from start instead of not getting anything from 2nd evolution and so on. Is allot now that i think of it...
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Old February 29th, 2012 (05:17 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Tofutheenderman:
Not sure of they will be needed since you can find a bellosom right off the bat but yeah that too. All i know is that every line must have there 2nd abilities too just to have the line option from start instead of not getting anything from 2nd evolution and so on. Is allot now that i think of it...
think from a newcomers stand point it'll be a pain and tiresome to waste time training oddish. sure bellossom's are catchable but not until late in the game.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (05:23 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Zetsubou Johnny:
think from a newcomers stand point it'll be a pain and tiresome to waste time training oddish. sure bellossom's are catchable but not until late in the game.
Very true on that statement. But Vio doesn't need drought though. Is why we got Bellossom. But i wont update it tonight because i'm sure by tomorrow we will have another update with the rest of the 2nd abilities. Because having Pegeot with guts wont do anything if we can't have them on out pre-evos. Like what happen with Blaziken, ect.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (05:23 PM).
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Thanks for including my suggestions :]

Do you plan on adding any extra Wally battles? He only gets like 3 battles in the game (Not including rematches), He deserves more, maybe one right before Rustboro/ Verdanturf Tunnel? And maybe one before you battle Team Aqua at the weather institute?
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Old February 29th, 2012 (05:26 PM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Blue.
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Quote originally posted by Tofutheenderman:
Not sure of they will be needed since you can find a bellosom right off the bat but yeah that too. All i know is that every line must have there 2nd abilities too just to have the line option from start instead of not getting anything from 2nd evolution and so on. Is allot now that i think of it...
I was supposed to do this but kinda got side-tracked as you can see I did it for the likes of Carvanha/Sharpedo etc. Thanks for pointing this out though.


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Thanks for including my suggestions :]

Do you plan on adding any extra Wally battles? He only gets like 3 battles in the game (Not including rematches), He deserves more, maybe one right before Rustboro/ Verdanturf Tunnel? And maybe one before you battle Team Aqua at the weather institute?
No problem!

I'm definitely planning on adding more Wally battles at one point because I agree there should be more, the last time I attempted it everything failed so I'll give it another shot soon and try and get another two or three in reasonable places.
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Old February 29th, 2012 (05:30 PM).
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One Question. Is the save compatible with every new beta of your hack, or must i restart the game?
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