Silver hack: Pokémon Dark Energy (ex Dark Future) [Beta 3.1 Released]

[CycloneGU]

Half of 7 is 3.5. Does this mean you get half a Fire Stone? *g*

Might I recommend an even number, 6 or 8?

Cyclone

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by CycloneGU

Half of 7 is 3.5. Does this mean you get half a Fire Stone? *g*

Might I recommend an even number, 6 or 8?

Cyclone

If we have n amount of miners who find m amount of Fire Stones, you'll get m/2 amount of Fire Stones. Basically, 7 hikers may found 4 of them leading 2 being in the crate there.
Also related to this, you can have 0, 1, 2, 3, .., 7 miners at the time who work there (obviously, you can't work with 0 miners though). So even without 7, there are still possibilities of you having odd amount of miners.

How it really goes is that you don't get "half" or "third" of anything, the items of the crate are randomized everytime you pay for the workers to mine and at maximum, every hiker can found 1 single item. But it's also quite likely a hiker doesn't find anything either.
Like explained in the video, I had 20 hikers to work with, leading into me finding 9 items.

For the ones who didn't see my latest post, watch this video!
You're gonna miss a lot if you don't.

[TotalPotato]

The difficulty seemed to ease a little after Aaron, which is nice. Although for some reason, I'm having huge trouble deciding what to catch as my fourth Pokémon. As soon as I saw people mention Miltank Farm, I thought "Ooh! Miltank!", but either they're extremely rare, or you can't catch Miltank at Miltank Farm!

Someone's probably already mentioned these little things, but here goes anyway:
If you save inside the Highland Town Mart while the goon is in there, the title music will play inside the Mart when you reload your save.
Accuracy is misspelled.
Farfetch'd is misspelled.
If you run into a wild Pokémon in Miltank Farm, you won't be able to reopen the gate unless you enter and exit a building.

[CycloneGU]

What will the Ore serve as a function? Do you sell that at a shop, thus making money off of employing the miners?

Cyclone

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by TotalPotato

The difficulty seemed to ease a little after Aaron, which is nice. Although for some reason, I'm having huge trouble deciding what to catch as my fourth Pokémon. As soon as I saw people mention Miltank Farm, I thought "Ooh! Miltank!", but either they're extremely rare, or you can't catch Miltank at Miltank Farm!

Someone's probably already mentioned these little things, but here goes anyway:
If you save inside the Highland Town Mart while the goon is in there, the title music will play inside the Mart when you reload your save.
Accuracy is misspelled.
Farfetch'd is misspelled.
If you run into a wild Pokémon in Miltank Farm, you won't be able to reopen the gate unless you enter and exit a building.

That thing related to the mart music is something I didn't know about. It's unlikely that I will fix it though because it's probably related to the asm routine used to load the map music. That map is using music byte which stands for "no music" and this does seem to occur that way.
I'll write it down though (I have been keeping track of all possible bugs) and might fix that later.

Thanks for the other bug reports as well!

I have already fixed the name of Farfetch'd yet this is not in Beta 3.1. Accuracy on the other hand is one I haven't run into.
And I can also fix that gate thing now that I've heard about it. I may even be able to make it so, once the gate is opened, it won't be closed after a wild pokemon battle is fought.

But yeah, it's nice to see you have been paying attention to pretty much everything
If I need beta testers later on and you want to apply for the job, PM me about it.

Originally Posted by CycloneGU

What will the Ore serve as a function? Do you sell that at a shop, thus making money off of employing the miners?

Cyclone

Yeah, Ores can be sold for $150 and they have no other purpose in the game.
Fire, Water, Thunder, and Leaf Stones for $1050 like normally but prices of Sun Stone and Moon Stone have been increased so that they can be sold for $1500.

There there are also other stones you can get (which I won't mention here) but they are more rare though.

[miksy91]

Not really an update but something neat I came up with.



These are picked from the battle with Isaac after modifying the coding related to "shiny pokemon encounter ratio". During the game in the next release, you won't see him using shiny Machoke though because that would also turn all of the other pokemon he has into shiny.

Basically, in G/S/C trainers can be made to use shiny pokemon by default if a certain table defining the DV values of pokemon used by that trainer are changed. Isaac (or Bruno originally) had those DV values set so that his pokemon are not shiny considering how the original "shiny pokemon ratio" code worked but in release with my hacked routine, his pokemon actually were.

I might put this in use for further releases, we'll have to see about that...

Oh and by the way, I may "lean" on releasing the next beta with the info related to Option 1 in that poll. In other words, as "quickly as possible" (not really, I'm only spending a little bit of my free time working on this). The reason for this is that that way I have a reason for starting to improve the "beginning parts" of the hack earlier and also have a playable release out there without the minor scripting errors beta 3.1 had.

If I do release this kind of a beta next, it might come sometime during the Spring I believe.

[miksy91]

Something "revolutionary", loaning kkj1116's comment in the video.

No, not gonna lie. Practising for more than 3 years has clearly paid off like you can see in the contents of this video I just scripted.



That there is how an add-on called "Battle Room" or "Battle Simulator" like stated in the video title works. You can choose the "experience rank mode" of one from "Novice" to "Supreme" and an a random opponent of the chosen rank is simulated to battle with you. The faced trainer isn't actually totally random, there will be 5 ones to choose from but the one chosen is really randomized.

[Pokemaster37]

I haven't started playing yet, but everything you added looks great. The Battle Sim is a very good idea, you can always battle a trainer. Another method of getting rare stones is amazing as well. It must be great to not have to buy all of the ones you want.

[joenelgwapo]

I saw Legendary Zapdos in Forest then I followed the Legendary Zapdos . when I saw again Legenday Zapdos is fLy to TaLLest building ahead then I go to Agent warehouse but it has a password

Sorry for wrong Grammar because I'm TagaLog

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by Pokemaster37

I haven't started playing yet, but everything you added looks great. The Battle Sim is a very good idea, you can always battle a trainer.

Yeah, I figured it would be worth adding because you can easily run out of money if you lose many times against and battled gym leader (parts of the hack can be quite difficult). But it also serves for an easy way of training. I do like how it turned out myself too.

Originally Posted by Pokemaster37

Another method of getting rare stones is amazing as well. It must be great to not have to buy all of the ones you want.

That's actually not the objective behind the side-quest. Sure, you receive rare stones in the process (and actually one of them called De-Stone can be dug up this way too and cannot be bought anywhere else). But there is also another reason behind this side-quest (which is why it exists actually, I don't like doing stuff for "no reason"). Not telling here though, would spoil stuff for final release

Originally Posted by joenelgwapo

I saw Legendary Zapdos in Forest then I followed the Legendary Zapdos . when I saw again Legenday Zapdos is fLy to TaLLest building ahead then I go to Agent warehouse but it has a password

Sorry for wrong Grammar because I'm TagaLog

Yeah, that's what was supposed to happen there. And you've got that right, it indeed flew to the building where you need the password in Argent Warehouse. The password isn't obtainable in beta 3.1 so you'll just have to wait for the next release to be able to get there.

[Snakebyte]

Hey, glad to see you're still progressing with this and looking forward to the next release!

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by Snakebyte

Hey, glad to see you're still progressing with this and looking forward to the next release!

Thanks! Believe it or not, I'll be progressing with this hack one year from now on as well (gotta take a loooong time to finish this).

Currently, I'm improving parts of Beta 3 that were "lacking something". Mainly some dialogue (things like someone talking about "Shouldn't you be at a school in a time like this?" will be replaced) but there will also be changes to existing events. For instance, Roland's house has been added to The Capital, and the scripts in your house should be completely redone (obtaining Eevee + stuff that happens downstairs). I also added a minor assembly hack for radios there (you can listen to actual music with them instead of stuff like "Oak's pokemon talk" which would make no sense being possible in this hack in the first place).

P.S
You may find out something neat about Dark Energy by playing the next version of Mateo's Christmas hack

[Al3X]

Keep up the awesome work! This will be a legendary hack.

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by Al3X

Keep up the awesome work!

I will

Originally Posted by Al3X

This will be a legendary hack.

I guess...
It would be better not to praise this hack that much though. DE is turning out an excellent hack (even though I say it myself), and I'd really like to see more support to it. Still calling a rom hack "legendary", "glorious" or something similar is wrong I think. Gamefreak could have implemented something far more spectacular, something that not even the best hackers in this forum wouldn't have been able to "compete with". But for some reason, they wanted to retain pokemon games "as simple as possible".

And even so, there are at least 5 people in Skeetendo Inc. who could have done better than I have with this hack (if they had planned the storyline and events in the way I did). Pointing out to that legendary word there here as well.


Edit:
I have done some changes to the main post there. Go and check it out!

Double-edit:

I got graphical assistance from Solar at Skeetendo Inc. and have now succesfully inserted a couple of new sprites in the game (Solar made all of these; Chikorita, Cyndaquil and Mew). The actual difficult part here was to change some of the game's coding so that more sprites could be loaded from the "sprite tables" but everything is running smoothly and without glitches

[miksy91]

More updates (check the latest from the previous post).

Mystery Box, or is it?

All I'll say here that the contents of this item ball are no way randomized. And there are actually one million choices for the amount of money received from it...

[brane]

Should really get back to following this thread. I played the beta (3.1 I think it was) a few months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't know why but I'm a sucker for retro games. I'm loving the new changes you're implementing to really flesh out the game and am pretty jealous of the things you've come up with (the battle simulator and some of the events through the beta).

Looking forward to the next release and beating the guy with the Steelix all over again when I'm not supposed to.

[Snakebyte]

Don't be so modest, 'could have' is worthless. You're the one actually doing it.

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by brane

Should really get back to following this thread. I played the beta (3.1 I think it was) a few months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't know why but I'm a sucker for retro games. I'm loving the new changes you're implementing to really flesh out the game and am pretty jealous of the things you've come up with (the battle simulator and some of the events through the beta).

Looking forward to the next release.

Thanks, I like every single bit of what I see here :D
And not to worry about beta 4 at least, it won't be a disappointment (but you do have to start over from the beginning, or are advised to at least). I've been re-doing some events there.

Originally Posted by brane

and beating the guy with the Steelix all over again when I'm not supposed to.

Ivysaur: Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, switch out... Go Eevee! Eevee: Sand Attack, Sand Attack...
Or some another way, hahha!

Originally Posted by Snakebyte

Don't be so modest, 'could have' is worthless. You're the one actually doing it.

You are right about that! But still, shouldn't be praising own hack myself, it's completely okay for others to say that though but even though the hack is good, most players don't seem to care or take some time posting a message about how the game was.

[maximumgeek5]

what do i do after brightbulb?

[Mystery Man]

Finished the beta a few months ago. Got to say, this is definitely one of my favorite hacks out there. The features you added, the ideas incorporated here, such splendor! Very original, too. I will be keeping an eye out on this thread for updates. You have my support.

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by Mystery Man

Finished the beta a few months ago. Got to say, this is definitely one of my favorite hacks out there. The features you added, the ideas incorporated here, such splendor! Very original, too. I will be keeping an eye out on this thread for updates. You have my support.

Thanks for positive feedback
And don't think I wouldn't have noticed you voted for DE in HotY

[Seppy]

Just finished the beta (or at least, where it seems to end).
I must say, this game is actually awesome and has all of my support.
The storyline is great, i like the fact that the protagonist doesn't want to be the very best, but simply study and do some research for the university. The enemies seem well done, much better than the usual Team Rocket. I like the fact that you can buy some of the evolution stones, i always found that quite useful, when you reach the end of the game with a lot of money and have to complete the pokédex.
The only question i have is this: will it be possible to complete the pokédex at the final release? I love when hacks give the possibility to capture or trade all pokémon.
Again, such a great job, i really liked your hack and i'll be here in the forums to keep track of its progress.

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by Seppy

Just finished the beta (or at least, where it seems to end).
I must say, this game is actually awesome and has all of my support.
The storyline is great, i like the fact that the protagonist doesn't want to be the very best, but simply study and do some research for the university. The enemies seem well done, much better than the usual Team Rocket. I like the fact that you can buy some of the evolution stones, i always found that quite useful, when you reach the end of the game with a lot of money and have to complete the pokédex.

Nice to see you commented about it and I liked the feedback you put up
The reason why you can buy the evolutions stones is pretty much for Eevee (and of course other stone-evolution pokemon) there. Have you been doing the "magical book" sidequest? You can find 4 Pages in beta 3 already (related to the reason why getting evolution stones had to be made as simple as possible).

Originally Posted by Seppy

The only question i have is this: will it be possible to complete the pokédex at the final release? I love when hacks give the possibility to capture or trade all pokémon.

If this was a normal pokemon game, I'd probably make it that way but there are specific reasons for making it so pokedex won't be completeable in the game. The hack has lots of differences to original pokemon games (and most hacks) as you have seen already but there will be more to come. Beta 4 will somewhat cover the idea behind the final version so you'll see when I've got that one up :D
But no, all pokemon won't be catchable but almost every single one will be.

Originally Posted by Seppy

Again, such a great job, i really liked your hack and i'll be here in the forums to keep track of its progress.

Thanks If progress goes according to the plan (I actually can't promise it will, some other types of issues than hacking to take care of, hahha!), I ought to have a new release up sometime in the Spring already.

[Seppy]

Originally Posted by miksy91

Nice to see you commented about it and I liked the feedback you put up
The reason why you can buy the evolutions stones is pretty much for Eevee (and of course other stone-evolution pokemon) there. Have you been doing the "magical book" sidequest? You can find 4 Pages in beta 3 already (related to the reason why getting evolution stones had to be made as simple as possible).

I only found one of them actually, didn't understand at first what they are for. Even when the guy gives the De-Stone made me think that Eevee was of some importance, but didn't actually think of this. Then i'll go and hunt the other for pages then to fill the time and explore a little more the maps waiting the next beta.

If this was a normal pokemon game, I'd probably make it that way but there are specific reasons for making it so pokedex won't be completeable in the game. The hack has lots of differences to original pokemon games (and most hacks) as you have seen already but there will be more to come. Beta 4 will somewhat cover the idea behind the final version so you'll see when I've got that one up :D
But no, all pokemon won't be catchable but almost every single one will be.

Just asking, at the end it's still a pokémon game, so "gotta catch em all". Even if it's not, in the actually game i'm playing, i have only Eevee (didn't make it evolve), Venusaur, Blastoise and Charizard, just because i wanted to know the story, and that is coming out greatly.

[miksy91]

Originally Posted by Seppy

I only found one of them actually, didn't understand at first what they are for. Even when the guy gives the De-Stone made me think that Eevee was of some importance, but didn't actually think of this. Then i'll go and hunt the other for pages then to fill the time and explore a little more the maps waiting the next beta.

Good luck, you're gonna need it
The locations of the missing pages can be found somewhere in this thread as well, one of them is a bit tricky. For now, you can't achieve anything special by finding the pages though. After all, only 4 of them have been inputted in the game and there are two left to be found.

Originally Posted by Seppy

Just asking, at the end it's still a pokémon game, so "gotta catch em all". Even if it's not, in the actually game i'm playing, i have only Eevee (didn't make it evolve), Venusaur, Blastoise and Charizard, just because i wanted to know the story, and that is coming out greatly.

I don't know... I don't think it qualifies a pokemon game with that definition. Glad to hear you've liked the story so far. And believe me, everything starts to make sense eventually