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Old June 14th, 2013, 10:20 AM
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Beta 4 is available!
Go and grab the hack in the main post.


What comes to other things, I've been touting this release a lot and by downloading it, you can see how good it really is. I've realized one thing though. No matter how much effort you put into something or how good the product you make is, praising it is totally no no.
I've a feeling some people have gotten annoyed of it and I apologize for that. I've done mistakes, realized I've done them and so I'm trying to learn from them.
Goes especially for stupid discussion elsewhere in the hacking forum, not specifically this thread.
But yeah, that's pretty much about it.

I hope you download the hack and have fun playing it! It's totally worth it!
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Old June 14th, 2013, 10:47 AM
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Old June 14th, 2013, 12:00 PM
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Can you continue from your old save file or do you have to start over?
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Old June 14th, 2013, 12:42 PM
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Can you continue from your old save file or do you have to start over?
You can't continue but neither would you like to.
Dark Future beta 3.1 is quite a lot different than this new release. Even the part of the gameplay that was accessable in it has been changed in many ways.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 01:11 PM
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Alright In guess I will download it and just have to start a new game than.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 06:23 PM
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Just started playing new beta (awesome btw) and was just wondering does eevee stay shiny if you evolve him/her?
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Old June 14th, 2013, 07:44 PM
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Let's Play em now xD !
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Old June 14th, 2013, 07:50 PM
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Long time of waiting is finished. I'm going to play right now.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 11:23 PM
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Just started playing new beta (awesome btw) and was just wondering does eevee stay shiny if you evolve him/her?
You were one lucky guy (especially if you got it without soft resets which I doubt you did). The shiny pokemon "ratio" has been modified so that any pokemon can be shiny with the chance of 1,14%.

It will definitely stay shiny, no matter what you do with it. If it doesn't, there is something totally wrong with the preservation if DV values.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 01:09 AM
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Cool !!! A new beta !!! offering more gameplay than gamefreak games...How long will it be in the final version ??? :O
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Old June 15th, 2013, 02:39 AM
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16 hours ago I loaded my save from 3.1. And today I see that 4.0 is available :D.

I wonder if you'd ever thought about adding Leafeon and/or Glaceon into your Dark Energy?
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Old June 15th, 2013, 04:21 AM
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So crazy indeed! You upgraded it a lot! I really like your hack!
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Old June 15th, 2013, 04:24 AM
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Hey I'm in north star "treasure hunting" I have the wooly hat and the sweater but I still end up fainting due to the cold, is there something else I need?
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Old June 15th, 2013, 04:52 AM
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Ohh yeah XD i'll just download it and a clean Silver rom and SSSSHHHHAAAAAZZZAAAAMMMM !! hehe thanks miksy91
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Old June 15th, 2013, 05:01 AM
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Cool !!! A new beta !!! offering more gameplay than gamefreak games...How long will it be in the final version ??? :O
The final version will probably include a bit more content than GSC have. I may eventually have to expand the amount of maps there are in the game, we'll see...

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16 hours ago I loaded my save from 3.1. And today I see that 4.0 is available :D.

I wonder if you'd ever thought about adding Leafeon and/or Glaceon into your Dark Energy?
Leafeon and Glaceon won't be put in the hack. This is simply because there is a certain sidequest related to Eevee and its upper forms (which can be completed in beta 4 already), and I won't be changing that since it works just fine now. But that's pretty much the only reason though. But I really don't think the hack needs them, although I admit getting them would be cool

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So crazy indeed! You upgraded it a lot! I really like your hack!
Thanks jiangzhengwenjzw! Normally, I don't have to copy paste the nickname of anyone if I want to mention his name when quoting to him. This time, I had to :D

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Hey I'm in north star "treasure hunting" I have the wooly hat and the sweater but I still end up fainting due to the cold, is there something else I need?
The Sweater is all you really need. Even though you have it, there is a high chance you'll faint due to the cold in the "colder rooms" of the cave though. But it's not so high that you wouldn't be able to "do what you gotta do" there.

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Ohh yeah XD i'll just download it and a clean Silver rom and SSSSHHHHAAAAAZZZAAAAMMMM !! hehe thanks miksy91
No problem. And have fun!

And thanks for the comments everyone!
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Old June 15th, 2013, 05:21 AM
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Will people atack me if I say the shiny ratio is too high? Because I found 2 in less than an hour XD Nidoran Male and Female....And by the way, is there a way for you to get the guy that does haircuts in the capital? I want to eveolve eevee into espeon fast, but in the beta 3.1 i was by the 4th gym with eevee at lvl 36 and it still had not evolved
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Old June 15th, 2013, 05:38 AM
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Will people atack me if I say the shiny ratio is too high? Because I found 2 in less than an hour XD Nidoran Male and Female....
I personally like the new shiny pokemon ratio. Or specifically, the definitions on what DV values the pokemon requires to be shiny.

I did three test runs on the hack - first time I found 2, second time 1 and third time ~5 shinies. I didn't "bush grind" much though but you shouldn't have to do that either, battle room is there for grinding purposes whenever grinding is needed.

You got lucky if you were able to find two shinies that easily though. But how it is that the chance of encountering a shiny pokemon is 6*5^3 / 65536 = 1,14%. So if you ran into less than 175 pokemon by the time you found two shinies, you had more luck than an average player.

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And by the way, is there a way for you to get the guy that does haircuts in the capital? I want to eveolve eevee into espeon fast, but in the beta 3.1 i was by the 4th gym with eevee at lvl 36 and it still had not evolved
Right... this is one thing I forgot to mention about as well. And there are probably more things to come.

In original games, the required happiness rate for evolution is min. 219/255. In Dark Energy, it is 176/255 I think. The happiness rate should increase by 3 (or so) every time you get a level up so your Eevee should probably evolve (if treated in a similar way) at level 25 or so. In my third test run, it fainted a couple of times but still evolved in level 27.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 07:33 AM
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I was grinding with VBA speed up option, so I may have encountered about 50 pokémon in that hour XD I didnt know about the Battle Room XD Also
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why is the squirtle event 100% shiny and the charmander one not (at least in 3.1 it was like that)...
I personally would like those the other way arround
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Old June 15th, 2013, 06:48 PM
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hi! please help me. im playing pokemon dark energy . . after talking to the messenger at the bbc . . what should i do to go the next area?? the road was close.

what should i do after talking to the messenger at the bbc? the road was cloased. im playing pokemon dark future.

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Old June 15th, 2013, 08:30 PM
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haha my curiosity didn't worked enough XD i tried my 3.1 .sav file at 4.0 , and i'm stuck at Greenwood Town where the guard had lost his key :D I went back to his house at Milky Village but the Wife's not giving it anymore XD
And now i really started a new game because i know i'll miss out a lot of COOL events nice work !!
P.S .. in the intro where Oak introduces himself , is it really Techinal University of Suden ?
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Old June 15th, 2013, 08:42 PM
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Sounds amazing, can't wait to play it, downloading it right now.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 09:52 PM
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"Beta 4"

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Oh my god, Beta 4 has easily outdone it's predecessor by a long shot. The cutscene at the beginning was inventive. The guard key quest was pretty laughable ("I could use a nap myself...") and the gameplay has gotten some serious improvements.

The only thing I see that hasn't been changed is the wild Pokemon to Trainer Level Ratio thing. In the last version, the wild Pokemon were incredibly hard to train with. It's really hard to have a fighting chance against the third gym when their Pokemon are like, what, Lvl. 26 while I can only train against Lvl. 11 Pokemon in the wild. I'd recommend upping the wild Pokemon levels a bit more. Instead of only increasing the levels by 2 or 3, I'd change them by 4 or 5 depending on the distance between the Routes and towns and any caves or tunnels or etc. in between. (This is probably a personal issue since I just straight up suck at training and really only wanna focus on the gameplay as opposed to actual battling stuff.) Just something to consider during Beta 4.1

Great job otherwise, impressive and creative as always!
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Old June 15th, 2013, 11:57 PM
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I've found a text error while playing. When you received Totodile, and battled Roland afterwards, and then talk to Professor Joke, he says:

"Have fun with your Chikorita!"

EDIT: I've found another error, this time in Area 123 (S). Here's a picture:

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Old June 16th, 2013, 05:38 AM
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I was grinding with VBA speed up option, so I may have encountered about 50 pokémon in that hour XD I didnt know about the Battle Room XD Also
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why is the squirtle event 100% shiny and the charmander one not (at least in 3.1 it was like that)...
I personally would like those the other way arround
When I started creating this hack a long time ago, I wanted to try out something new all the time. So at the time, I wanted to go for making a shiny pokemon encounter and therefore, that event turned out like that and I never changed it.

Some people suggested me changing it to being non-shiny by default but others said "No, keep it shiny since it's been like that in beta 3 as well.". And you've gotta make choices, and I went with option #2.

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hi! please help me. im playing pokemon dark energy . . after talking to the messenger at the bbc . . what should i do to go the next area?? the road was close.
You won't get further from there, it's the end of the road.

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haha my curiosity didn't worked enough XD i tried my 3.1 .sav file at 4.0 , and i'm stuck at Greenwood Town where the guard had lost his key :D I went back to his house at Milky Village but the Wife's not giving it anymore XD
And now i really started a new game because i know i'll miss out a lot of COOL events nice work !!
P.S .. in the intro where Oak introduces himself , is it really Techinal University of Suden ?
Well that wasn't "much of a bug" really. There would have probably been straight "freeze" glitches there as well if you tried entering some areas. Of course, it still made it impossible to continue.

What do you mean about "Techinal University" ? It's just that, I wanted to name to place that way. It could have also been just "University of THE CAPITAL" or similar

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Sounds amazing, can't wait to play it, downloading it right now.
Alrighty! And thanks for the comment.

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Hahha! :D

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Oh my god, Beta 4 has easily outdone it's predecessor by a long shot. The cutscene at the beginning was inventive. The guard key quest was pretty laughable ("I could use a nap myself...") and the gameplay has gotten some serious improvements.

The only thing I see that hasn't been changed is the wild Pokemon to Trainer Level Ratio thing. In the last version, the wild Pokemon were incredibly hard to train with. It's really hard to have a fighting chance against the third gym when their Pokemon are like, what, Lvl. 26 while I can only train against Lvl. 11 Pokemon in the wild. I'd recommend upping the wild Pokemon levels a bit more. Instead of only increasing the levels by 2 or 3, I'd change them by 4 or 5 depending on the distance between the Routes and towns and any caves or tunnels or etc. in between. (This is probably a personal issue since I just straight up suck at training and really only wanna focus on the gameplay as opposed to actual battling stuff.) Just something to consider during Beta 4.1

Great job otherwise, impressive and creative as always!
Darn it... I've seemingly not made it clear everyone should go training to the Battle Room instead of grinding against wilds in the bushes (when grinding is needed).

Actually, the same guy who talks about taking a nap will tell you they've build this battle simulator rooms in upper rooms of every PC and says you should check it out (this happens when you're not looking for a way how to wake up the guard).

But really, thanks for mentioning about it. I know just the way how to "lure" people out to go and check that place even if you hadn't heard of Battle Room by that time (something to be put in "bug fix release" beta 4.0.1 if such comes up before 4.1).

Thanks a lot for the feedback by the way! I appreciate it.

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I've found a text error while playing. When you received Totodile, and battled Roland afterwards, and then talk to Professor Joke, he says:

"Have fun with your Chikorita!"
That's actually not an error but something I added in as one of the "last minute" add-ons during this week. What's the idea is to make professor Joke even more stupid than he is.

What happens in the cutscene is that the boy who says "I got to choose first!" was supposed to get a pokemon while the player and Roland end up in the lab due to that jerk sailor. Prof. Joke knows only one person should have begun his journey that day but due to his sillyness, he ends up giving you and Roland a pokemon too. And after Roland picks his own one, Prof. Joke is even "excited" about you getting your first pokemon too;
"It's your turn! Go and get the one that's still left!"

And after you've gotten Totodile, Joke mistakes that ball for Chikorita that was in the other pokeball. That's no way self-explanotary, that's true, but something I felt like dropping in.


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EDIT: I've found another error, this time in Area 123 (S). Here's a picture:

Area 126 is not accessable in beta 4 and I was kinda lazy because I didn't want to map that area yet (or put up a map connection leading there either). That most likely won't be fixed until beta 5.
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Old June 16th, 2013, 08:14 AM
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Okay, so I tried out the Simulator after your recommendation and was purely amazed. It's definitely much, much better than grinding in the wild, and the instant heal afterwards saves a lot of time. I earned enough BP to get a Magby, and it totaled the second gym xD Pure amazing, and Fire Punch on it is super powerful.

And while I'm here, I currently have 3 shiny Pokemon - the Squirtle event, and a Zubat and Swinub I caught within one battle of each other (I'm still shocked myself lol). Beta 4 is freaking amazing.
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