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View Poll Results: Who Is The Hardest Gym Leader Of HG/SS?
Falkner 5 1.77%
Bugsy 11 3.90%
Whitney 140 49.65%
Morty 15 5.32%
Chuck 15 5.32%
Jasmine 16 5.67%
Bryce 4 1.42%
Claire 76 26.95%
Other (Kanto) 0 0%
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Whitney wasn't too hard for me, TBH. I used a female Heracross with Brick Break to beat her Miltank. She wasn't that hard to beat. (Though Milk Drink was very irritating.) For me, I think that Falkner and Bugsy were quite annoying. Falkner's Pidgeotto kept spamming Flying-moves (Started with Chikorita.) and Roost, while Bugsy's Scyther was a pain. (I even had a Flying-type that time.)
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Clair was quite hard.
I had to use a ton of items like X Special to beat her.
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Whitney got my vote. Clair is close behind though.
These are the most annoying Pokemon of the gym leaders:

Falkner: Not too hard, never really had trouble. His hardest is obviously Pidgeotto.

Bugsy: Scyther, No questions.

Whitney: MILTANK.

Morty: Gengar. He isnt too troubling, but his Gengar can be annoying.

Jasmine: Steelix is a pain, especially at Lv 35. Her magnemites with thunderwave? Annoying.....But Steelix tops it.

Chuck: His Poliwrath is the hardest.

Pryce: His dewgong and Piloswine are as bad as each other, But not too troubling.

Clair: KINGDRA.

Top 3 hardest leaders:
Whitney (That d*mn Miltank :cer_pissed
Clair (That d*mn Kingdra :cer_pissed
Bugsy (....Scyther = annoying :cer_pissed
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Whitney isn't hard at all for me, compared to my Gold/Silver/Crystal days. I know how to handle her.

Jasmine was hardest for me in HG/SS.
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Well, if you started with Cyndaquil Bugsy's Scyther isn't hard at all, but whatever..

Whitney...she's Miltank...is weak! What's the problem is miltank's milk drink...! + she cries when she lose! She forget to give a badge! What a Gym Leader!
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Jasmine no doubt. If you don't get Typhlosion as your starter or have a fire/fighting type on your team, you're going to have a really hard time beating her... dat Steelix man
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Old February 7th, 2012 (03:52 PM).
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Whitney's miltank used milk drink like 80 times. I hate that miltank.
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I'll tell ya who WASN'T hard. Falkner. Amiright? Remember in RBY where if you'd choose Charmander, you'd have a relatively tough time, (theoretically)? Well, not only do you have the chance to get a Mareep at R32 before Falkner, you have your first in-game trade right there in Violet City! A bellsprout for an Onix! Congratulations, you just traded yourself into a win! =D

(Honestly though, that's awesome game design that they'd make all the stuff so convenient in the first town and not spring the whole "weaknesses" thing on you later on.)

For conversation's sake though, I'd say Whitney. Sabrina was a little tough as well.
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I found Whitney the hardest because I never lost to any of them but Whitney. Which irritated me xD

Her stupid Miltank always used roll out, then I'd get it down to low health and she'd use full restore.

I just shook my head sooo irritated.
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Whitney is very weak...the ONLY thing that was HARD for ME, is her MILK DRINK!
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The only one I had troubles with, was Bugsy's Scyther.
So Bugsy was the hardest gymleader I fought.
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None were ''hard'', necessarily, but Claire would be the most challenging I would say. Her Pokemon were sturdier, and stronger offensively than everyone else.

I'm honestly surprised to hear that many had a problem with Whitney, since she never gave me the slightest problems, even in the originals when I was still a child. She was easily beaten by Ember, or if you wanted to guarantee a victory use a Geodude or something.

Use some debuffs if you have to, like Leer, and you're good to go.
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In Johto, Whitney, for reasons already said. I would normally say Chuck, but without Dynamic Punch from the original games, he's nothing. As for Kanto, Blue takes the cake. He's got some serious ish on that team. Overall though, looking at rematches as well as the first battles, Blue still wins this one. He's tough the first time, and every time after. ...Unless you're level 100, then that's a different story, but...
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Eh I would have to say Clair in all honesty due to her Kingdra giving me more than my fair share of irritation but Bugsy and Whitney tie for a close second though I suppose lol.
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Whitney for sure. That Miltank was just a complete monster. What made it worse was Milk Drink, and Stomp. In Kanto, I'd have to go with Lt. Surge. I really don't know why, but I had the longest and toughest battle against him. I usually win with just a few hits, but this time it was a totally different story...
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Whitney is hands down the toughest even if she is the 3rd Gym Leader, Miltank is strong!
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Old February 9th, 2012 (02:49 PM).
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None were extremely hard. But if I have to choose one, that would be "Kingdra". It gave me a tough battle in HG. Pryce was kinda hard too. As for the Kanto Gym Leaders, Blue.
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I don't like following the crowd, but I have to agree by saying:

Whitney. Her Miltank's Defense Curl, Rollout, and Milk Drink made our battle either go on forever or end with me losing. T^T
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None of them I found challenging, though Whitney's Miltank was definitely annoying to take down. Attract and the Paralysis caused by Body Slam was irritating. ;__; I ended up making my Geodude use Self Destruct to take Miltank out in one hit, even though it was capable of a 2HKO with Magnitude (probably would have taken longer anyway due to Attract).
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For me the toughest were Clair and Whitney. Whitney because of Miltank's Stomp flinching, Rollout and Attract hax. As for Clair her Kingdra was a real pain due to good 95/95 defenses and only 1 weakness.
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whitney who else?

It's obvious because of her Miltank. Tbh I had a hard time with many of the gym leaders :/
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In johto,whitney took me 3 tries,because of charm and rollout

I also think clair isn't hard at all,i beat her with a quagsire and a amparhos xD

They say jasmine is hard,but i beat her easily with a quilava.....

Scyther was beaten by a cyndaquil!


Chuck,well...... Pidgeot used fly!

As for kanto....

The hardest gym for me woul be LT.Surge,it was hard because i was underleveled,that stupid electebuzz!

People say blue is hard,but i beat him with a lvl 63 typhlosion! And other lvl 55-58 pokemon,beat him on the 1st try!
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Chuck and Clair completely raped me D:
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Claire was really the only one that gave me significant trouble. Kingdra is just too hard to beat conventionally with raw power, you have to outspeed + status it somehow and just beat on it while it can't attack. Otherwise, it hurts you.
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Whitney. That milktank does damage early on. . . .
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