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Old April 15th, 2012 (05:50 PM).
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Well I think there will be new and exclusive areas to explore, I think the Shadow Triad will have a larger part in the storyline and I think N will take you on in a double battle with "Black Kyurem & White Kyurem" however it's kinda hard to call right now.
^what he said because it's more legendary
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The story line will proably revolve around the mascot than previous games, it just seems like Kyurem will play a large, seeing how it's an antagonistic like Pokemon.
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The Musketeers are in the Game's Opening Video. They wont be in hiding like in BW. They will be part of the game's action.

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I can see the Sinnoh dragon trio proably play a role of some kind, maybe a post game storyline dealing with Ghetsis' plans for them.
Also the old player will proably be reference several times by the old characters. Then by the end of the game Hilda/Hilbert will appear with N to help us out.
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Yeah I'm interested to see what the Musketeers actually do in-game. Maybe it'll reflect the movies in that... you need them to advance to the next part of the storyline, aka removing the ice. Dunno but I think they'll have some relation to "ice" or stopping Kyurem in general.
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That would be kind of cool, if it's what I think you're saying.
It would be a couple years after B/W, and the trainer you play as in the first installment of B/W is the champion. That way you can be a new trainer and battle them in the same way that you battled Red in G/S/C.
So Bianca or Cheren could be a Gym leader like Green? (Mostly likely Cheren)
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The Musketeers are in the Game's Opening Video. They wont be in hiding like in BW. They will be part of the game's action.

I've said this before, but Shadow Triad Sinnoh Dragon Rotation Battle Supper Boss
I don't thinks that's very likely, to be honest- the only reason those Orbs were given to us was because you couldn't transfer items from the previous games, and so there'd be no way to get those items otherwise. Having the Sinnoh Dragon trio in the games would be pretty cool but it seems a bit much to me.

However I remember reading somewhere that B2W2 takes place about 10 years after DPPtHGSS, meaning direct continuity is unlikely. Yes, I know Cynthia and Looker were there but neither of them made significant reference to their past storylines.
And while there were references to RSE throughout, I just think that's suggesting their remakes. It seems that bit too crazy to implement Hoenn in the games.
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I think the story will have a hit of irony to it. The Shadow Triad will be revealed as the Striaton trio while N decides to help you against the new rival.
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I think that at the beginnning, your dad is the Trainers' School teacher and he gives you a choice of Tepig, Oshawott or Snivy to kickstart you Pokemon Journey. Soon after leaving, you'll be ambushed by the Shadow Triad, who tell you to beware of a great evil. With them out of the way, you collect the regional 8 Gym Leaders, you'll encounter thugs dressed in red, and you'll also encounter the mad scientist guy. After beating Iris to get your 8th badge, Ghetsis appears with N, and both of them reveal that they're back to working together. They merge N's dragon with Kyurem with the help of technology made by the evil scientist, but the Kyurem will not obey Ghetsis' and N's orders. In order to distract you, who wonders into the Giant Chasm, the Shadow Triad and 3 other grunts now dressed in red/blue depending on version will battle you, the Shadow Triad a tripple battle and the grunts one-by-one. After, Ghetsis and N are defeated, so you catch the Kyurem in it's new forme, and Ghetsis and N are taken away by Looker.

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I was wondering what that Petilil in that small room is about? Would it have something to do with the story?
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Personally, i don't think N will be back to being evil. I think he's over that. I don't know though. I am not GAME FREAK.
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I was wondering what that Petilil in that small room is about? Would it have something to do with the story?
I wondered that too actually. I don't think it'd be a major part of the story, if anything. Maybe a sub-plot of someone losing a Minccino, but certainly not really something I can see half a storyline dedicated around :(
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I wondered that too actually. I don't think it'd be a major part of the story, if anything. Maybe a sub-plot of someone losing a Minccino, but certainly not really something I can see half a storyline dedicated around
That was weird. It was sitting there like it was a legendary or something. Weirddddd. Maybe it's a Zorua in disguise? I could see GAME FREAK doing that.
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That was weird. It was sitting there like it was a legendary or something. Weirddddd. Maybe it's a Zorua in disguise? I could see GAME FREAK doing that.
I don't know why I didn't think of that, I could definitely see it being Zorua in disguise!
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Oh actually, Zoroark or Zorua may have a purpose in the story in these games. maybe early on you find this disguised Zorua and catch it, then realise it's Zorua, THEN when you're in Castelia or somewhere, in where you got Zorua last time, someone points out they want Zorua and there's a sub-plot. :3
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Okay, so I think Kyurem in BW escaped from Hilbert, or it is an alternate reality, 2 years ahead in there or there was no Hilbert or Hilda, Kyurem must have met Reshy and Zeky somewhere in the timelime, Kyurem soon gained access to transform into Black Kyurem in Black 2 and in White 2, White Kyurem, Hilbert 2 must have been born 2 years after, Rival must have been born the same day? We will talk as more news comes. Remember!: BW2 are coming closer and closer every second and happy summer!
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I think that (somehow) Kyreum stole N's dragons energy, perhaps in a battle with N? and came back to Unova and started causing trouble, freezing over half of the region, etc. then team plasma decides to catch the dragon, then N teams up with the player and try to take Ghetsis down once and for all

its doubtful that it will happen like that because Akumaru and the old team plasma wouldn't exactly fit, but its a start i guess
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Quote originally posted by WhiteSamurott:
Okay, so I think Kyurem in BW escaped from Hilbert, or it is an alternate reality, 2 years ahead in there or there was no Hilbert or Hilda, Kyurem must have met Reshy and Zeky somewhere in the timelime, Kyurem soon gained access to transform into Black Kyurem in Black 2 and in White 2, White Kyurem, Hilbert 2 must have been born 2 years after, Rival must have been born the same day? We will talk as more news comes. Remember!: BW2 are coming closer and closer every second and happy summer!
See the only issue with this is Catching Kyurem is optional. Its not part of the main story line and isn't Canon to B/W's story. Same with the Muskedeer Trio. They apparently play a part in the story for B2W2 or else they wouldn't be in the opening intro, but that means that they were never caught in B/W.

Unless its part of the main story like how Catching Zekrom/Reshiram were, then its not Canon to the actual story, but an optional thing that plays no part in the story. So, Hilbert/Hilda don't catch Kyurem as their story ends after beating N and Ghetsis.

As for how he transforms, there are a number of things that can be guessed at.

We know that Kyurem's legend states that he fell to the Region years before, but they don't state how long before. We also know about a great fire at the Moor of Iccarus during the War that nearly destroyed the Region. One of the things I think is that during the war, Kyurem fell. At this time the two rulers were making their way to where Kyurem dwelled and each had their encounter where Kyurem syphoned parts of the main dragons' energy to be able to do a form change.

From that point they sealed Kyurem away because it was too powerful, but only after Kyurem froze itself during the fight while trying to take out the two Dragons. Afterwards they split for a while only to fight again at the Moor of Iccarus where the Musketdeers lived. After the destruction of the moor and other areas the two leaders truced and sealed their own dragons away to prevent anything else from happening.

In B2W2 the seal on Kyurem is broken by Plasma or Akuroma (by accident if Akuroma) which triggered the awakening of the Musketdeers. Through the course of the game Team Plasma would be testing Kyurem's power and you and your rival will constantly meet up with the Muskedeers. Like in B/W they do not trust humans and at some critical point in the story you'd have to battle all three before you take on a Rampaging Black/White Kyurem that the new Plasmas lost control of.

N would come in just before a killing blow against you and the Muskedeers is made and stop the kyurem's attack weakening it enough for you to actually battle and catch it.
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See the only issue with this is Catching Kyurem is optional. Its not part of the main story line and isn't Canon to B/W's story. Same with the Muskedeer Trio. They apparently play a part in the story for B2W2 or else they wouldn't be in the opening intro, but that means that they were never caught in B/W.

Unless its part of the main story like how Catching Zekrom/Reshiram were, then its not Canon to the actual story, but an optional thing that plays no part in the story. So, Hilbert/Hilda don't catch Kyurem as their story ends after beating N and Ghetsis.

As for how he transforms, there are a number of things that can be guessed at.

We know that Kyurem's legend states that he fell to the Region years before, but they don't state how long before. We also know about a great fire at the Moor of Iccarus during the War that nearly destroyed the Region. One of the things I think is that during the war, Kyurem fell. At this time the two rulers were making their way to where Kyurem dwelled and each had their encounter where Kyurem syphoned parts of the main dragons' energy to be able to do a form change.

From that point they sealed Kyurem away because it was too powerful, but only after Kyurem froze itself during the fight while trying to take out the two Dragons. Afterwards they split for a while only to fight again at the Moor of Iccarus where the Musketdeers lived. After the destruction of the moor and other areas the two leaders truced and sealed their own dragons away to prevent anything else from happening.

In B2W2 the seal on Kyurem is broken by Plasma or Akuroma (by accident if Akuroma) which triggered the awakening of the Musketdeers. Through the course of the game Team Plasma would be testing Kyurem's power and you and your rival will constantly meet up with the Muskedeers. Like in B/W they do not trust humans and at some critical point in the story you'd have to battle all three before you take on a Rampaging Black/White Kyurem that the new Plasmas lost control of.

N would come in just before a killing blow against you and the Muskedeers is made and stop the kyurem's attack weakening it enough for you to actually battle and catch it.
so wait, are you saying that that the Musketdeers are friends or enemies with you or your rival?

your thesis sounds great but why would you keep running into them? if they don't trust humans, they would be pros at avoiding them.

the old man in B/W comes to mind when i think about it, he said that maybe they can change their ways when a human with a pure heart comes, or something along those lines, correct me if I'm wrong. So I'm thinking that if they see you trying to calm down Black/White Kyurem, they'll decided at some point to help you.
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Think Suicune from Crystal, the legendary beasts avoid human interaction but they can't always avoid humans absolutely. With the trio constantly trying to stop Team Plasma with the Kyurem stuff, they'd be showing up while you were battling Team Plasma. As time goes by they'd realize you have the same goal as them and as a final test you have to battle the three for them to make sure you are strong enough to face Kyurem at the end.

They did the same type of scenario in RSEDPPt. In RBY you couldn't get to specific routes unless you beat specific gyms.
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Quote originally posted by XanderO:
Think Suicune from Crystal, the legendary beasts avoid human interaction but they can't always avoid humans absolutely. With the trio constantly trying to stop Team Plasma with the Kyurem stuff, they'd be showing up while you were battling Team Plasma. As time goes by they'd realize you have the same goal as them and as a final test you have to battle the three for them to make sure you are strong enough to face Kyurem at the end.

They did the same type of scenario in RSEDPPt. In RBY you couldn't get to specific routes unless you beat specific gyms.
ok i can see that, but suicune had a "Bond" with the player, and correct me if I'm wrong but the beasts never 'hated' humans, Ho-Oh did, the Musketdeers all seem to hated humans all together, except maybe Keldeo.

but I agree with what you said about you showing your worth with them, at some point in the game they will come to the conclusion that your worth their time, that much is called for.

what about the dragons? i mean, I honestly can't see them not being in the game, but their both owned by trainers, i know you said that Kuyrem takes their energy during the war but if its "energy" wouldn't it need more?
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ok i can see that, but suicune had a "Bond" with the player, and correct me if I'm wrong but the beasts never 'hated' humans, Ho-Oh did, the Musketdeers all seem to hated humans all together, except maybe Keldeo.

but I agree with what you said about you showing your worth with them, at some point in the game they will come to the conclusion that your worth their time, that much is called for.

what about the dragons? i mean, I honestly can't see them not being in the game, but their both owned by trainers, i know you said that Kuyrem takes their energy during the war but if its "energy" wouldn't it need more?
Based on what I've seen from the clips of the movie, I don't think so. Kyurem hadn't had contact with them right before the movie and he is still able to freely switch so it may be a permanent thing.
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Well, regarding the Hilda/Hilbert captured Kyurem argument, in HGSS there is a Snorlax in Kanto regardless of whether you caught/defeated both of them in RBYFRLG.
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Well, regarding the Hilda/Hilbert captured Kyurem argument, in HGSS there is a Snorlax in Kanto regardless of whether you caught/defeated both of them in RBYFRLG.
yeah but in order for the story to continue, you had to catch the dragon, no questions asked.
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Okay, so I think Kyurem in BW escaped from Hilbert, or it is an alternate reality, 2 years ahead in there or there was no Hilbert or Hilda, Kyurem must have met Reshy and Zeky somewhere in the timelime, Kyurem soon gained access to transform into Black Kyurem in Black 2 and in White 2, White Kyurem, Hilbert 2 must have been born 2 years after, Rival must have been born the same day? We will talk as more news comes. Remember!: BW2 are coming closer and closer every second and happy summer!
We already had a thread for speculation about the story so I merged your thread into it. :)
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