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Rainy Garden of Fire · #**226** March 22nd, 2012, 03:31 PM

Ooh, that looks nice! (I actually need one of those!)
I'd like to do the challenge...but I'm still confused. And I decided to quit HGSS RNG abuse for a while. Those events aren't going to come themselves!

Speaking of the events, I plan on RNG abusing Rayquaza and Zekrom. I think I understand most things for the Zekrom, but there is one step in the guide that I'm a bit confused about.

"Hit your seed once and find the IVs you find which is the initial frame.
In most cases, it will be the first frame, after you calculate the initial PIDRNG frame."

Now, what I'm confused on this part is about "find the IVs you find which is the initial frame" and the rest after that.
About find the IVs you find...find which Pokemon's IVs? Is it the Wondercard one? And about the initial frame...you'd find your initial frame using the IVs you found, right? And you'd also have to calculate your initial PIDRNG frame too, right? If you do, how? Does it go like how you'd find your initial frame? And there's also a part that says...

"Hit your seed again, do the required advances, and verify your Pokemon.
Adjust accordingly."

Now, what would adjust accordingly mean? Does it mean I have to adjust something when I have to? And if I should, what should I adjust? The advances I have to do?

Well, after that, I have no problems.

(I hope this one doesn't bring problems)

LegendaryFSK · #**227** March 22nd, 2012, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac of York

So, after much hard work, I finally present entry for the challenge:

Bulbasaur ♂ Lv. 10
OT: Ｓｐｏｃｋ | ID: 51241
Nature: Modest
Ability: Chlorophyll
IVs: 31, 10, 31, 30, 31, 30 Fire 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Leech Seed, Vine Whip
Not For Trade
Injected into Entralink, Japanese Rom

Bulbasaur might not be the first thing you think of when you think of a hibernating Pokemon, but I'd like to think that it does hibernate during the winter. It needs to protect its bulb and the best way to do that is to find a nice, warm cave and lay down to sleep during the cold season. Then, when it comes around to spring, it could show up and enjoy the warmer weather and the sunshine and then perhaps its bulb will have matured enough to work on blooming, then evolving into Ivysaur and eventually Venusaur.

I hope that's OK... lol, I wanted to do Bulbasaur really bad xD

Very creative thinking and now that you mention it, Bulbasaur does seem like it it would hibernate. Love it.

Just gonna post some of my most recent abuses. I RNG'd the Abra a couple days ago, and the rest I did today. Just had the urge to RNG a few of my favorite 5th Gen Pokémon today.

Abra

Axew

Scraggy

Minccino

johnny18 · #**228** March 22nd, 2012, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire

About find the IVs you find...find which Pokemon's IVs? Is it the Wondercard one?

Yes in this case as you want to RNG a wondercard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire

And about the initial frame...you'd find your initial frame using the IVs you found, right? And you'd also have to calculate your initial PIDRNG frame too, right? If you do, how? Does it go like how you'd find your initial frame?

For wondercard abuse in 5th gen, IVs are tied with nature so all you need to do --->
you hit your seed and don not do any advance at this point, check the pokemon's IVs and nature, then compare it to the main window to see what frame you end up and that will be your initial frame (no worries about initial PIDRNG frame). Then you do it again but this time advance the frame to get to the frame you want and you shall get your desire wondercard mon

Gonz0 · #**229** March 22nd, 2012, 11:54 PM

Bro, awesome Bulbasaur and good explanation, I like it!

LegendaryFSK, nice abuses! I'm in love with your Mincinno

Time for my challenge post 8D

From Camilla's Journal a small Challenge Fick - explanation:
The true is, she was the very first Pokemon of this species I saw on the route and in my life as well. Probably, she was the first awoken from the sleep! I found her training some punches on a huge brick of ice, late at night. My Abra felt a bond between himself and her and manipulated my Carnivine to attract her with Sweet Scent! I wanted to hide but I slipped on the ice and accidentialy dropped my pokeball with Pelipper and he got out of it. She wanted a battle - if I was asleep for about three months, I would definitely like to battle too! She used Belly Drum in the very beginning of the battle. I was impressed by her spirit, spirit of a true warrior. During a fierce battle which was full of powerful techniques I realized that she would be a great partner for me and my team. Eventually, both Pokemon my Pelipper and the Pokemon were exhausted. That was the moment I threw a Nest Ball and... I did it! I caught her! Click on the spoiler to see what got!

Spoiler:

Rainy Garden of Fire · #**230** March 23rd, 2012, 04:07 AM

Thanks for that! I'll be back with my latest abuses! All I need now is a Sweet Scent user so I can find my parameters and an IV checker (I can't use Pokecheck in my place, not sure why...it worked with ReignOfComputer's server that did the same thing)...would an online checker do (like Serebii's)?
Secondly, I'm a bit confused on this part:

check the pokemon's IVs and nature, then compare it to the main window to see what frame you end up and that will be your initial frame (no worries about initial PIDRNG frame).

The Pokemon is the Wondercard one again, right? And comparing it to the main window...the main window is the first window that pops up when you open RNG Reporter...and you compare the IVs and Nature. After I did that, then how do I find my frame (which will be the initial frame)? Do I use the IVs? And comparing it does what, actually?

And another thing...if you received a Wondercard Pokemon and turned off without saving, the delivery man would still be able to give you your Wondercard Pokemon, right?

(Sorry, I just don't get most things when it comes to abusing for IVs)

vaporeon7 · #**231** March 23rd, 2012, 07:26 AM

I don't really plan my RNGs, unless I need the Pokémon for a specific team or someone has requested it. Most of the time it's a matter of surfing Smogon and seeing an interesting moveset, seeing a shiny sprite and thinking it's pretty or just a random obsession with the Pokémon at the time.

Rainy Garden of Fire · #**232** March 23rd, 2012, 08:13 AM

Well, I'm back with my newest RNG abuse...a Shiny Zubat! It's for the Wake Up Slap Challenge.

No.041 Zubat, Lv.1 (UT), Quiet nature, Inner Focus ability.
OT Jason, ID No. 56796.
Moves: Leech Life
IVs: Unknown
EVs: None

The reason I chose Zubat is because bats hibernate and Zubat is a bat-like Pokemon.
It isn't really creative, but I have to give a reason, right?

This Zubat isn't really great...it's just a Shiny Pokemon. I have no idea about how to RNG abuse for good IVs...yet.

johnny18 · #**233** March 23rd, 2012, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire

The Pokemon is the Wondercard one again, right? And comparing it to the main window...the main window is the first window that pops up when you open RNG Reporter...and you compare the IVs and Nature. After I did that, then how do I find my frame (which will be the initial frame)? Do I use the IVs? And comparing it does what, actually?

Yes, the pokemon is the wondercard one since you want to RNG a wondercard. yes for the main window. What I mean is just using pokemon IVs and nature to look for your frame, to see which frame matches up with your pokemon's IVs and nature.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire

And another thing...if you received a Wondercard Pokemon and turned off without saving, the delivery man would still be able to give you your Wondercard Pokemon, right?

As long as you do not save the game then yes, the delivery man will still give you the pokemon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire

Thanks for that! I'll be back with my latest abuses! All I need now is a Sweet Scent user so I can find my parameters and an IV checker (I can't use Pokecheck in my place, not sure why...it worked with ReignOfComputer's server that did the same thing)...would an online checker do (like Serebii's)?

Yes, you can use that but they will give you a range of IVs rather than exact IVs.

RingoH · #**234** March 23rd, 2012, 11:32 AM

I wanted to give an update on my Emerald progress.... Attempting to RNG for a collection of Ditto's that I can use for Gen III breeding... And learning RNG in Gen III so that I can RNG my legendarys as well as RNG a team I want to bring to Mt Battle.

One thing I have determined is that soft resetting Emerald is just not for me, it feels too akward, and I don't feel I am consistantly starting the clock and hitting my soft reset at the same time. I am using my two stage timer I use for Gen IV abuse, but instead of a long delay first followed by a shorter delay I'm using a five second delay first, then reset when that reaches zero, mash A until I'm in the game world, then select my sweet scenter and hit A for sweet scent once the second timer reaches zero.

I found that soft resetting and trying to determine a calibration time that I was off by one or two seconds once then off by one or two in the opposite direction the second time... Although by sheer luck I did hit one of the spreads I was hoping to catch during this calibration phase [although not the one I was aiming for at the time, which is why I say I hit it by sheer dumb luck]. Without changing my timer at all I ended up as far off as two second, and as close as ten frames. That's way too huge of a window of error to be acceptable, and I really feel it had to do with trying to hold down SEL/START/A/B and release at the right moment. The A/B aren't an issue, but the SEL & Start are just not comfortable to try to hold down and then release at the right time.

Last night, I decided to try a hard reset. Still using the two stage timer, with a five second pre-delay. Only now, I am hitting A for the GBA slot on my DS when the first timer reaches zero, instead of trying to soft reset. I started my calibration phase with the actual time I was aiming for. My first try I was off by only five frames. My second I was off by a dozen frames the other way. I tried a few dozen tries before I was too tired and had to go to sleep, but I was within +/- 20 frames on each attempt. Luckily, the spread I am aiming for at the moment is only about thirty second in [frame 2238: 0.37.30 -- Sassy -- 31/31/4/31/14/26]. I know the biggest trouble with Emerald RNG is the often long waits for a spread you want. It helps that at the moment I'm not caring about Nature or Shiny -- Only IV combinations.

Question though:
I don't see anything about determining encounter slots in Emerald. RNG reporter only tells the stats for Gen III not which slot the poke is... I would hate to be trying all this work for that frame to not even be a ditto. Anyone with experience on Gen III RNG able to advise me?

loucas · #**235** March 23rd, 2012, 01:29 PM

then i have my entry :D

Pichu
Jolly Nature
OT:Alexand ID:00227
Lv. 1
25/31/25/31/31/31

Mice* Hibernates during the winter, but they go out sometimes to collect food.

ABOUT THE TOPIC:

uh, well, i plan to rng everything i get one time in the game, (Volcarona, Virizion, etc) but as for normal pokes, i rng what i see is the easiest :D i hate NPCs.

Sydian · #**236** March 24th, 2012, 12:23 AM

OOOPS. Haven't posted here in a while. I've learned how to RNG eggs in Platinum recently, and have gotten two eggs today. I was working on another, but I'm going to my grandmother's soon, so I'll just wait till I get there. Anyway...some stuff I've RNG'd on Black recently:

Spoiler:

That's all for Black. Now today on Platinum, I have these:

Spoiler:

As far as the topic goes, I just kinda RNG out of the blue. Pokemon who have nice shinies that I've always desired, Pokemon I'm randomly interested in, etc. So not really planned most of the time. I do plan on going for Modest Hydro Pump Bagon and a Modest Dark Pulse Deino. Both shiny, obv. lol[/SIZE]

Mac · #**237** March 24th, 2012, 02:19 AM

Nice abuses everyone! Glad to see people getting in the spirit of the challenge. I just did a RNG for our lovely TwilightBlade tonight!

Corphish ♂ Lv. 1
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Adaptability
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Bubble, Superpower, Dragon Dance, ***
Non-Redis

Woot

twistedpuppy · #**238** March 24th, 2012, 03:30 AM

I did the challenge I didn't want to do. Here is Oddish.

Oddish

Modest | Chlorophyll | Lv.5
Absorb | Sweet Scent
31 | 26 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 30 [HP

70]

Oddish is a plant and plants "sleep" during the winter. Improvised. >.>

Mac · #**239** March 24th, 2012, 11:24 AM

Thank you everyone for participating in the challenge with great abuses! Now, time for the next challenge!

March 23rd was International Puppy Day... so RNG a Pokemon that you'd keep as a pet!

Make sure you explain why this Pokemon would be a good pet.

RingoH · #**240** March 24th, 2012, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac of York

Thank you everyone for participating in the challenge with great abuses! Now, time for the next challenge!

March 23rd was International Puppy Day... so RNG a Pokemon that you'd keep as a pet!

But Mac... I think I'ld keep ANY of them as a pet... Do you mind me suggesting that we have to explain why it would make a good pet?

Mac · #**241** March 24th, 2012, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RingoH

But Mac... I think I'ld keep ANY of them as a pet... Do you mind me suggesting that we have to explain why it would make a good pet?

OK sure I'll add that.

Thanks.

Feralize · #**242** March 24th, 2012, 09:45 PM

All right, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my ID abuse earlier.

My new problem is that I can hit my target delay, but I'm not getting my desired ID/SID.

RingoH · #**243** March 24th, 2012, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feralize

All right, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my ID abuse earlier.

My new problem is that I can hit my target delay, but I'm not getting my desired ID/SID.

Which game are you doing ID/SID abuse in? And are you getting the same "wrong" ID each time?

The only game I've tried [succeeded too] was Black [going to get a second copy of Platinum to do soon though].

loucas · #**244** March 24th, 2012, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feralize

All right, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my ID abuse earlier.

My new problem is that I can hit my target delay, but I'm not getting my desired ID/SID.

Try checking your initial frame first, and try to focus on one seed rather than changing everytime you didnt hit. Happens to me when i did my id/sid, reporter doesnt tell right initial frame, well atleast for me it didnt

Btw you can tell what your initial seed is when you Check what seed you have hit on the middle tab pandora's box

Gonz0 · #**245** March 25th, 2012, 12:14 AM

erm... the word DELAY indicates it's 4th gen

you prolly get seconds other than desired. I had that issue.

For example, you want to hit 50 seconds but you hit the delay and 53 seconds. Adjust you timer to 47 seconds instead of 50 sa target seconds. It will work. Just just add x when you're x seconds before target and substract x if you're x seconds after the target.

loucas · #**246** March 25th, 2012, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonz0

erm... the word DELAY indicates it's 4th gen

you prolly get seconds other than desired. I had that issue.

For example, you want to hit 50 seconds but you hit the delay and 53 seconds. Adjust you timer to 47 seconds instead of 50 sa target seconds. It will work. Just just add x when you're x seconds before target and substract x if you're x seconds after the target.

Oh, silly me. Go ahead, don't mind me, go talk your talk. Idk where you get the patience regarding IV gen.

Feralize · #**247** March 25th, 2012, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonz0

erm... the word DELAY indicates it's 4th gen

you prolly get seconds other than desired. I had that issue.

For example, you want to hit 50 seconds but you hit the delay and 53 seconds. Adjust you timer to 47 seconds instead of 50 sa target seconds. It will work. Just just add x when you're x seconds before target and substract x if you're x seconds after the target.

How do I determine how many seconds off I am?

LegendaryFSK · #**248** March 25th, 2012, 03:51 AM

Challenge Complete. First thing I thought of was Squirtle! Squirtle will always be a favorite of mine as he was my very first starter/pokémon. I thought way back then that Squirtle would make an amazing pet...I still do to this day. Not sure how well Squirtle and my dog would get along, but I would hope they could be friends. lol. Plus, a lot of people keep turtles as pets...so Squirtle would be perfect.

Squirtle

johnny18 · #**249** March 25th, 2012, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac of York

Thank you everyone for participating in the challenge with great abuses! Now, time for the next challenge!

March 23rd was International Puppy Day... so RNG a Pokemon that you'd keep as a pet!

Make sure you explain why this Pokemon would be a good pet.

I do not have time to do challenges anymore

AlexOzzyCake · #**250** March 25th, 2012, 01:14 PM

International Puppy Day... This exists? xD Anyway, I did the chellenge ^^ I thought what better to catch as a pet than a Lillipup :3 I think my reasons are obvious haha. It's shiny with 31/31/31/x/31/31, I think x was around the 15 mark :3 Bad ability though D:

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