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Would you be upset if the Full Version was not fully compatible with saves from the 2014 Version?

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Old July 3rd, 2013 (7:02 AM).
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I was planning to have them at least show up, but they probably won't play a huge part in the storyline.

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I found what appears to be an error, I am replaying the game, this time with a grass starter, the problem is no one can learn flame ball so I cannot continue, I did not notice last time cause I had a fire starter and used up all the coins to get Mew.
Is there a wild Pokemon before the ice block that can learn flame ball?

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Old July 8th, 2013 (1:22 PM).
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There should be wild Growlithe in the grass West of Violet City, and there are Vulpix in Union Cave.

Also, to make it a little less annoying, in this next release I will make it so the ice block stays gone once you melt it the way Sudowoodo did. The others will stay normal, but since that one blocks a major intersection it makes sense to have it stay gone I think. Unless people object to that change :p

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Old July 21st, 2013 (7:40 AM).
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Hi Mateo... It's me. AtecainCorp. from Skeetendo. What with Rejishan plot?

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Old July 25th, 2013 (9:54 AM).
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Thought I would bump this post and add some new screenshots. Not quite sure when the release will be, since I keep finding things I want to tweak, but I'm hoping it'll be in a week or two. But I can't say for sure. Anyway, here are some new screenshots:


Oh you know, just a new area.


Whichever player you didn't chose in the intro will still be around and do things.


A little update to Elm's Lab.


Pocky and Rocky.


Well, it doesn't seem to be actively snowing and its sunny, so I guess it works.


An incense burner. Unlike the ones in houses, you can actually use these.

Also, I took the time the other day to update a tileset that I always felt was lacking, even though it isn't all that important you still see it used all over.


Sorry the pic is so large, its the same one I enlarged to post to the Facebook page.

I think it looks a lot better than the old ones:

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Yeah the new tileset is way better than the old one. Also I'm surprised to see that blue pokéball in elm's lab ( I wonder what it could be )

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Quote originally posted by gam3r!:
Yeah the new tileset is way better than the old one. Also I'm surprised to see that blue pokéball in elm's lab ( I wonder what it could be )

That blue Pokéball was actually there in the 2012 version, it has Kris's Marill in it :p But there is something else new about the lab in that screenshot.

Also, I'll try to get a few more screenshots up soon.

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Quote originally posted by Mateo:
That blue Pokéball was actually there in the 2012 version, it has Kris's Marill in it :p But there is something else new about the lab in that screenshot.

Also, I'll try to get a few more screenshots up soon.

Really ? I didn't quite remember it ( it's been a long time since i have played it )

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Old July 25th, 2013 (11:47 PM).
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It's cool :p It was added there to help explain where Kris's Marill came from, but nobody really talked about it or anything so it was easy to miss. (And for this version, I modified Elm's text a bit during that part so the he explains why you can't pick it.)

Also, a little something I was working on today:

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Also, a little something I was working on today:

A Red/Blue styled viridian gym ?! Great ! I remember that in G/S the spinning puzzles were missing.

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Hi Mateo. When you will release the final version of Pokemon Christmas? I'm excited to play it again because I've played the 2012 version. And I think my last trip was battled Leaf in the Cerulean Cape and there's a huge rock that goes through Brick Town?

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Old July 27th, 2013 (8:18 AM).
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Hey there markcuyugan. I don't for sure when it will be, but it will be soon. Probably in the next week or two, but I won't make any promises (you never know what you might run into in testing and have to fix, etc.) But it should be soon.

Also, yeah Leaf is the "Final Trainer" and you can't get to Brick Town. I do realize it was confusing though, as a lot of people ask how to get to Brick Town in this one. So I will make it more obvious that you don't go to Brick Town for the next release.

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Hey Mateo, nice screenshots! I will check this thread every day to see when the game is released!

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Thanks Dr.James!

Also, I have a question for you guys. I've been thinking about making it so that Pokémon you receive in trades will always obey you. Do you guys like or dislike that idea?

The way I see it, the feature made sense on the real games. It was to keep you from cheating by having a friend trade you a level 100 Mewtwo at the start of the game so you could pwn everyone. But on emulators where its much more annoying to trade, all this feature really does is make it annoying to use the Pokémon you get in trades from NPCs. So I think it may as well go away personally.

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yeah you should implement this " feature ". I remember playing gold and trading for an onyx in one of the first towns and training it to beat falkner. Then it didn't obey

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Yeah, the trade in Violet City is really one of the only ones this causes problems for since Azalea (I think) lets Pokémon up to Lv30 obey you and you don't usually have Lv30+ Pokémon when you fight Bugsy. But it looks to be simple enough to remove the checks entirely and just make everyone obey.

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Old August 2nd, 2013 (11:28 PM).
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Just bumping this a little. Still working on it, don't have it ready for release yet (I know I said it'd probably be in a week or two, but it isn't yet) because I keep finding things to tweak. And recently I found a part of the story that I decided is still too much like Gold that I forgot to overhaul. So I'm going to be working on planning/fixing that up in the next few days. (Remember how in the 2012 version Mahogany Town's rocket event was almost identical to Gold? Yeah, just gonna completely redo that whole thing into something new the way I've already replaced the Lighthouse/Jasmine stuff with something new). So I'll keep you guys posted on updates as I make them.

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Also, I've decided to go ahead and announce what the "secret" involving Zigzagoon and Linoone is that I've been hinting at for a while:

Thanks to help from Miksy91, they have had the "Pickup" ability added to them, the way they did in Ruby and Sapphire. You might be like, "but wait, there weren't abilities in Gen II" And you would be right. We haven't taken the time to add all the other abilities in, that's a lot more work that we wanted to do. But since that was Zigzagoon and Linoone's main gimmick, I felt like they needed to keep that ability when I brought them to Gen II.

So in the new version, any Zigzagoons or Linoones you have in your party will have a chance of picking up an item after any battle is over. The list of items they can find is based more on Ruby and Sapphire than on Emerald (so its fun). I'll release the list of items that they can find when the release is out, but since it is similar to Ruby you know they can find things like Potions and Great Balls and such.

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Quote originally posted by Mateo:
Just bumping this a little. Still working on it, don't have it ready for release yet (I know I said it'd probably be in a week or two, but it isn't yet) because I keep finding things to tweak. And recently I found a part of the story that I decided is still too much like Gold that I forgot to overhaul. So I'm going to be working on planning/fixing that up in the next few days. (Remember how in the 2012 version Mahogany Town's rocket event was almost identical to Gold? Yeah, just gonna completely redo that whole thing into something new the way I've already replaced the Lighthouse/Jasmine stuff with something new). So I'll keep you guys posted on updates as I make them.

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Also, I've decided to go ahead and announce what the "secret" involving Zigzagoon and Linoone is that I've been hinting at for a while:

Thanks to help from Miksy91, they have had the "Pickup" ability added to them, the way they did in Ruby and Sapphire. You might be like, "but wait, there weren't abilities in Gen II" And you would be right. We haven't taken the time to add all the other abilities in, that's a lot more work that we wanted to do. But since that was Zigzagoon and Linoone's main gimmick, I felt like they needed to keep that ability when I brought them to Gen II.

So in the new version, any Zigzagoons or Linoones you have in your party will have a chance of picking up an item after any battle is over. The list of items they can find is based more on Ruby and Sapphire than on Emerald (so its fun). I'll release the list of items that they can find when the release is out, but since it is similar to Ruby you know they can find things like Potions and Great Balls and such.

Just figured a new, neat idea related to this which would however, require a bit of additional coding :D
I think you'll like the idea (but perhaps, not implementing it).

I don't think it works like this in gen III, but wouldn't it be nice if the items they found were somewhat based on the level of the zigzagoon/linoone? Okay, it wouldn't be a bad thing if you found stuff such as Super Potions or Great Balls in the beginning of the game, but they could be made to find more useful stuff at higher levels which would be irrelevant to be able to be received in early game.

For example, expand that "item table" you've got there to have more items in it and remove the possibility of getting the rarest items (in other words, the items/values at the end of the table) at lower levels. This could be done simply with a couple of level checks and for example, if the level would be higher than 30, use one add instruction to "double" the value of register a (for loading the value from table in position hl + a). If the level would be higher than lv50, perhaps use two add instructions for making it possible to get items at even closer to the end of the table.

Not sure if you catch the idea since I'm bad at explaining it in these kind of terms, and in english too.

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Old August 3rd, 2013 (10:03 AM).
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I think that in some of the games (I forget if it was this way in Gen III or if they added this later) it is based on level, and has different tables that it loads from based on level.

I also had another idea recently that involved multiple tables, but was based on where you were instead of what level Zigzagoon was. I'll discuss it with you outside the thread though!

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Although it's not really of relevance but if you change boxes then catch Pokemon the pokemon will disappear and not be in the box. Any way to fix it or nah?

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I can't say that I've ever seen that happen...

EDIT: I just tested this and can't replicate your problem at all. Changing boxes and catching Pokemon works fine. Can you be more specific as to what happened?

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This looking so neat! And that's so cool that you guys were able to add an ability in Gold! I didn't think that was possible :o

Umm also maybe I missed this not sure but will any events be different between the boy and the girl? Or just the other player when he shows up? Either way is fine just wondering

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Thanks! And yep, I thought it was neat that we pulled that off. To answer your question though, it won't be super different if you play as the boy or the girl. Some NPCs will say different things based on which gender you are, and a few other little things but the story will be the same for both players.

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Ok! It would be neat if more was different, but i guess its okay because then we won't miss anything.

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You should make the hack star Articuno
And Add the walrein Family too

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