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Old May 21st, 2012 (06:23 AM). Edited May 21st, 2012 by Ark_Silvanos.
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Name: ark_silvanos... ark is fine,
Skill(s): spriting, and umm... dunno... haven't really tried anything else
Main role: Tester i guess, if thats what i have to be to give some advice
Past experience: started spriting some 2-3 years back... didnt really improve much cuz i kept getting bored. as a tester, not much... just decided to be one right now .
Contact Information: dont remember my email and never use msn, so i cant reall fill this part out...
Time Zone: i have no idea... nd i never bothered checking... but i'm in india... and its like 7:50 ish here (pm) as of this post...
Other: i like how u work as a team, u take every1's input and ur also giving ppl a chance to really get some experience with whatever they feel they can do...like i said b4 i just wanted to join now was a tester so i could give u guys my opinion... but i dont mind helping out here and there as u need it (with spriting, obviously) and i've seen ur sprite shop and ur work is pretty good... y not try to tile urself? (i'll help out if ur stuck completely, but i haven't done tiles much either)

k from now on, i'm assuming i've been accepted

@pokehacker1 u should read what droomph said, cuz he makes some really valid points, try to work on what he says while u work on the new forest.

@nobo71, what the others say is true, why dont u make each layer of mountain a different shape and size, that way u add a little variation. the layer with the town can have all the buildings closer together, and a small elevated area where the gym[(?) if its a gym town] or like a mayor's house could be... that would give it more of a snug small town on top of a small mountain feel..

@mineox100 imo, the pond should be a little smaller, also is it alright for a route to have a direct path to the next town? i mean, even if its a really small route, there should be some grass that the player HAS to walk through... i dunno if every1 feels like that, but i always felt thats where the fun was... random encounters for some xp as u go on to the next town without having to grind for xp along the route...
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Old May 21st, 2012 (06:37 AM).
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Welcome to the team! Thanks for the info and constructive criticism. I just thought that I should point out with route 1, that there isn't any grass because we were intending to have like 4 or 5 trainers on that one route.
Oh and I don't tile because its not really my srongsuit and I find it tedious. XD But I will try if I have to I guess :/
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Old May 21st, 2012 (06:56 AM).
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well... i'm in the middle of my exams, but if u need anything sprited, or u have a list of tiles u want me to do, send me a list, i'll try to work on em when i'm bored ... i'll do more when i get free-er
and trainers... ah... makes sense ... kinda like a gauntlet run in the beginning....
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Old May 21st, 2012 (07:00 AM). Edited May 21st, 2012 by Cosmotone8.
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I have a list, I'll see if I can forward it to you.
And it is like a gauntlet run, but with really, really weak trainers who have only level 2 Pokemon.
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Old May 21st, 2012 (07:59 AM).
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Welcome to the team! We don't really have any work for you at the moment, but sit tight.
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Old May 21st, 2012 (08:03 AM).
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ok if there are any jobs at all tell me i might be able to help.
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Old May 21st, 2012 (12:58 PM).
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I got a question. The new people got their name on the front page while mine isn't.
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Old May 21st, 2012 (04:02 PM).
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I'm so sorry. That was just me being stupid. xD Hopefully it won't happen again.
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Old May 21st, 2012 (06:02 PM).
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@Cosmotone8
Umm...have you created the storyline yet? (I could help in creating one.)
Because if we scipters know about it we probably come with ideas and such...

Oh and I have a suggestion how about we make a map of a city inside a cave..(something like that)
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Old May 21st, 2012 (10:31 PM).
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@tajaros Oh my I was just thinking that:L that's pretty weird.. but yeah i love the idea of a cave in a city but it's not up to me... and yeah we do map out where to give certain storyline events and such so creating a storyline would make it much clearer
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Old May 21st, 2012 (11:34 PM).
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@cyru hey did outkin sent you a task about creating a gym? (If yes are you finished?)

So were the one that's going to make the storyline? (Or they will?)
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (05:45 AM).
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aight... so i just joined so i'm a little in the dark, but from what i've read so far, the basic outline of the story has been figured out (its a little similar to RSE), and v've got a world map up, but it doesn't seem to have been planned fully (or if it has, it wasn't discussed on this thread so can some1 please fill me in? like starting town, where player goes next, which areas are blocked till certain HMs are got, where player gets the HMs, etc. Also, it seems u guys have all the routes and towns planned, cuz ur mapping already, so can some1 tell me what areas are where? like mountainous areas, forests, deserts, etc.)

Neway, theres a couple more things i thought i could ask, to keep up the flow and get the hack moving:

1. Intro: Who's the professor who asks u name and gender and stuff? and how do u get your pokemon? like is there a small story involved? (like saving birch, or having an errand to do for elm)

2. Fakemon: I dont think V've got a dex decided yet, and that makes complete sense since we're just starting out... but do v have concepts, or are the spriters making them up as they go? I dont believe we have a concept artist or some1 who handles all the stats and moves of the pokemon on the team, do v? so even if v the spriters are going to use custom ideas, i think we should settle on a spriting style (Gen 1, 2, and most of 3 were more animalistic, gen 4 nd 5 (blah) were funky, and looked more like items (ice cream cone, candle, that type of thing).

3. Tiles: having a tile artist MAY be required, but i dont see how it completely brings the mappers to a standstill. Are v revamping the game into custom tiles? or are we just adding what we need? Also, instead of every1 just saying we need a tiler, we need a tiler, what tiles do v exactly need? no1 specifies that. Mappers, if you have a design for a city, and dont have whats required to complete it, say what you need. (ex. lets take the cave town that was being discussed, mapper could say:

"hey guys was going through the layout for the town, but i was thinking, as the town is in a cave, instead of having rocks and flowers, we could get some stalactites to spruce it up a bit? also having the same buildings we use above ground looks a little tacky, how about some buildings that look like they were hewn from rock? maybe more modular houses, with a brownish palette and none of the fancy colors or designs?

List of Tiles needed:
Set of various sized stalactites(2-3 different should be fine)
New rock-like houses"

This way, ppl can actually try their hand at tiling if they want to, and if nothing works out, atleast v'll have a nicely planned list of what we need. I mean, i dont mind trying to tile, but i have no clue what u guys need.

4. Legendaries: I dunno if u've already talked about this, but are the main legendaries Solarock and Lunatone? and what are the other legendaries the game will incorporate? do we have any ideas going on? since its day and night... maybe something incorporating dusk and dawn? like pokemon who try to help correct the balance or something?


anyways... just my thoughts ... what do you guys think?
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (07:02 AM).
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@Ark_Silvanos

You have a few good ideas unfortunatly i don't know about the story line yet but if i find out i'll tell you.
Also i would just like to add that onces the storyline is complete if i could be told so i can start scripting.
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (07:11 AM).
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@tajaros No, i wasn't assigned a gym -__- Probably since i'm not a mapper, but I suppose i'm here if there's an urgent need.. and i think there should be a balance between when people map things and script things because then once the whole world's maps are done there's going to be an overwhelming amount of scripts to do for the scripters.

So maybe i was thinking we could each be assigned a town and told what scripts to be put in it like Rival battles, givepokemon scripts, gym leader and battle scripts, etc.
Anything like that? =)
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (07:20 AM). Edited May 22nd, 2012 by Imrathon.
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i've just read the first post again it seems that there is a very basic storyline of 2 pokemon that keep the balance kinda like good and evil. some people steal the pokemon legendaries , world ends up in choas for a few hours until you rescue the pokemon restoring the balance.

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I like your idea of everyone getting assigned to a town and you work from their. so maybe we should start on town names?
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (07:46 AM).
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I'm not sure, i think we'll have to wait for either outkin or cosmo to accept the idea or actually assign us towns, so sit tight
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (07:52 AM).
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@imrathon... no i meant like a detailed story line ... like why those pokemon are being targeted (like why does a team want a pokemon that can control day and night?) what drives you to save the pokemon (like in RSE its because you were the one that gets the blue/red orb from the old man, you were the one who met and impressed steven along the way, and you were the one who helped the opposite team whenever you could) also theres no story as such about the world map... like i said b4, ideally, we should plan out the town sequence b4 we get into doing everything else.

@cyru, that would work, but there are only 2(3) scripters XD so ur gonna have lots of work either way but yeah... first we figure out a basic gist of the hero's travel, then we assign towns for mapping, and split the towns between u and tajaros and imrathon (srry i didnt realize u were a scripter, i somehow read it as spriter o.O ) for the scripting, and get the ball rolling. (if we assign randomly, we may not get a working beta out for a while cuz the starting towns may not be done first...)

or another idea is for the scripters (or any1, really) to sketch map the town... just 2 get a basic placement of the town, and script from there, and have the mappers do their own thing in a different town and then switch. So the scripters can then do the scripting in the mapped towns, and the mappers can then properly map out the quickly done maps, and minor changes can be done after that... that way every1 is doing something?
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (08:01 AM).
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well all we can do is sit and wait for now. once the ball is rolling we can all work.
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (09:19 AM). Edited May 22nd, 2012 by Cyru.
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Well I suppose if we're talking about the story maybe you could casually visiting the professor or something and then you could get caught in some sort of takeover by the evil team and you could be forced to choose a pokémon to defeat them, and you could learn their motives and stuff and really include them in the story, and after, the proffessor sees you've bonded with the pokémon, gives it to you and suggest you challenge the pokémon league/pursue the evil team and stop them? Also, maybe you could use the trainers you were going to have on Route 1 as the evil team grunts if you're thinking of a gauntlet type run?
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (09:30 AM).
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nice idea and that would involve the storyline quite nicely
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (09:39 AM).
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i like that idea... but i think the team should remain unknown for atleast a good bit of the story... maybe the professor can be researching the legendaries? The team sends some guys out to steal the professor's research and you end up choosing a pokemon and fighting them off? and they run away b4 u can learn anything? Also i like the idea of having a recurring character(s) in the bad team... kinda like jesse and james... it'll make the player more dynamically involved cuz they can have a personal grudge against the character or something....
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (09:44 AM).
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thats a good idea as well.
The grudge could be something to do with school for instence you as the player got to work for the professor because you passed your exams, but the person who steals the pokemon could have flunked his exams and ended up without a job so he puts together a team to try and get some money by stealing the most precious pokemon and selling them to an evil man?
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (09:52 AM). Edited May 22nd, 2012 by Ark_Silvanos.
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nah thats a little too much cuz he'd only be ur age... i was thinking like one of the grunts would have a grudge, not the leader of the team.


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or maybe the leader has a grudge against your father or family or something?
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Old May 22nd, 2012 (10:03 AM).
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perhaps your father was the owner of a mining company and he sacked one of the grunts/leader. that could be a good enough reason.

or perhaps the leader of the group used to work for the professor but lost his job and wants to steal the profesors work out of hatred.
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