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Fifth Generation Are Pokémon slaves to humans? Team Plasma thinks so. Travel the Unova region and prove them wrong in Black & White, hens return two years later in Black2 & White2.


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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:01 PM
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Pardon me; obsessed with the rival! This is just an excuse to make a thread about him! yayaya!

I'm sure I don't need to say that for the first time in Pokémon, they had two rivals for the player (three if you count N, or two if you discount Bianca) with Black and White. Not only that, but Cheren and Bianca were childhood friends of yours and you guys started your first steps on your journey together! Y'all had a pretty nice thing going on back then. Certainly refreshing from the past rivals (Barry aside, I guess)...

What do you think the relationship the protagonist has with the rival will be like in the sequels? What do you think their personality is going to be like? Do you think they're going to have the opposite gender protagonist be part of the game as well, like they did in past generations?
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:14 PM
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The rival is super cute! Judging by his look, I'm predicting he'll be a lot more mature than the previous rivals. He seems like the kind of guy who would be understanding to you as a close friend, but always looking to better himself to be a little bit ahead of you. As for personality, I picture the rival to be charming, clever and like I said, understanding. Perhaps he'd have a slick side to him. Maybe it's because of your avatar though...

I really hope the relationship between the rival and protagonist is close. Best friends, but far better than the friendship between you/Cheren/Bianca. I see future shippings of the female protag with this rival for some reason. Honestly, I SUPPORT IT.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:15 PM
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I'm thinking that the rival is gonna be cocky, a bit like Gary / Green, since that's something that hasn't been done since Gen 3, with Silver. Though, Silver started out just mean, and I don't think the BW2 rival will be quite that bad. xD;

I don't think he'll start out friends with either of the two protags, though.

If only because they've done that with the last two generations.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:33 PM
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I see him as Power hungry and arrogant. Maybe not as abusive as Silver, but pretty close to Silver with a mix of Gary/Blue added in.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:36 PM
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I think he's going to be rude like the past rivals :( Just from how he looks I don't think he'll be necessarily friendly to the others. As for the other protagonist I'm pretty sure they will be involved, to kinda... get even with what B/W had, sorta. Kinda disappointing if so, I wanted a really nice rival!
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:38 PM
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I'm the only one to think he'll be charming. n___n Honestly, Nick your avatar is misleading my thoughts!

I want him to be mysteriously wicked. But still understanding and close to who you play as even though he has a hard way of showing it!
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:41 PM
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I think he's going to be rude like the past rivals Just from how he looks I don't think he'll be necessarily friendly to the others. As for the other protagonist I'm pretty sure they will be involved, to kinda... get even with what B/W had, sorta. Kinda disappointing if so, I wanted a really nice rival!
I'm kinda th opposite - give me a guy I'll like to hate and I'll be happy too, as long as the rival has an actual personality with a dash of character development. They can do 'nice rivals' fine imo (Biana/Cheren) and so too the not so nice guys imo (Silver/Gary). THat's the main thing I'm concerned with - he can be whatever he pleases as long as he's an interesting guy I'll enjoy beating up.

Guess it's a bit too early to think much of him based only on his look and not knowing the context of his quote there, beyond 'what hair stuff does he use?'. =p
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:49 PM
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I'm the only one to think he'll be charming. n___n Honestly, Nick your avatar is misleading my thoughts!

He's smiling in the bigger version of that fanart in Nick's icon, actually.
So maybe you're right. XD;


Although, that's a fanart, so.. I'm not sure what to make of him at this point.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:56 PM
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Fanart also makes N deeply in love with Hilda but we don't see that happening. :P

It all goes down onto how the creators make the rival out to be. Should be a charming one. Just so charming.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:06 PM
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Looks bold and cocky like Blue and Silver; since the series has started to add more depth to the storylines, he'll doubtless develop from that into a mature nakama. I also reckon he'll be someone the protagonist encounters during the story rather than already knows, given this presumed personality. In turn from these impressions I think it's probable that unless another rival is revealed, the unchosen protagonist character will make a significant appearance as a childhood friend, though I'd personally prefer a unique character for any NPC role.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:09 PM
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I'm kinda th opposite - give me a guy I'll like to hate and I'll be happy too, as long as the rival has an actual personality with a dash of character development. They can do 'nice rivals' fine imo (Biana/Cheren) and so too the not so nice guys imo (Silver/Gary). THat's the main thing I'm concerned with - he can be whatever he pleases as long as he's an interesting guy I'll enjoy beating up.

Guess it's a bit too early to think much of him based only on his look and not knowing the context of his quote there, beyond 'what hair stuff does he use?'. =p
But that's boring, almost all of the rivals were hateable. I want more which aren't hateable. ;;

Overall though I hope it's not the same boring thing of "turn out to be bad and then eventually befriend". >__>; I want a new twist on that.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:11 PM
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Taking a look from his design. I think he will be rude and cocky. He probably lives in the same town as the Protag, because it looks like he is wearing a wetsuit under his clothing. It would also be nice to have a rude and cocky rival again. Cheren and Bianca were too friendly. And Barry, was just weird.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:15 PM
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But that's boring, almost all of the rivals were hateable. I want more which aren't hateable. ;;

Overall though I hope it's not the same boring thing of "turn out to be bad and then eventually befriend". >__>; I want a new twist on that.
How is a nice rival going to make it less boring? Didn't Bianca/Cheren give enough of that? :P

I agree though on the last part. But I more want the rival to be in the middle of good and bad. Just because he seems so...wicked and charming (like I haven't said that before).
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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:29 PM
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One of the site's I just read says that he was childhood friends with the protags, and then sort of took the wrong path.

That could be neat.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:31 PM
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It says on the trailer, according to Erica, that they're childhood friends.

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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:34 PM
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Oh thank God, a relation to BW! ...sorta, and their childhood friends thing. Sadly though that means he's likely to be somewhat of a carbon copy of Cheren though at the end imo, or at least I feel like he will be. :(
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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:36 PM
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I hope his personality is so different from it. What I'm hoping his personality will be is a mixture of Barry and Gary. Some medium between the two.

http://serebii.net/black2white2/pics.shtml#

The rival and protagonist are together in most of these pictures. SQUEEEE!!!

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Old April 13th, 2012, 06:52 PM
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Still waiting to see if this guy will leave as much of an impression as Bel and Cheren did.

It always seemed awkward giving a name to someone with an actual personality. I would've liked a named rival as a result. An implied "relationship" between the player and the rival would work, but to spill character into the guy and leave him nameless seems weird especially given Cheren and Bel had a lot of personality and couldn't be named.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 07:17 PM
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Again? This is not wildly exciting after the first BW where both rivals were your childhood friends. It would be more interesting if they did something new with him, like have you travel around together, but this isn't a typical JRPG so they wouldn't want to make dialogue the whole way. But seriously, I don't like the childhood friends thing because it's so unrealistic that you wouldn't travel with them. :(

*shrug* He sounds pretty generic from what Nick's shoved in my face to translate. :P
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Old April 13th, 2012, 07:23 PM
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Honestly after hearing about the info that's been given about the rival I'm a bit disappointed.

In all honesty when I saw his artwork I was thinking they might have made the rival as a character who is slightly older than the protagonist and set out on his journey before you. In doing so he's reached great heights within the region and now you're trying to catch up to where he is.

I've probably read One Piece too many times but I was really hoping more of a older sibling type relationship from this rival than the set out on a journey at the same time and race to the top theme they had going for other rivals.

The protagonists just look so much younger compared to the others while the rival looks older than the protagonists.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 07:49 PM
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Honestly after hearing about the info that's been given about the rival I'm a bit disappointed.

In all honesty when I saw his artwork I was thinking they might have made the rival as a character who is slightly older than the protagonist and set out on his journey before you. In doing so he's reached great heights within the region and now you're trying to catch up to where he is.

I've probably read One Piece too many times but I was really hoping more of a older sibling type relationship from this rival than the set out on a journey at the same time and race to the top theme they had going for other rivals.

The protagonists just look so much younger compared to the others while the rival looks older than the protagonists.
Does knowing the rival has a younger sister make you feel any better?

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Old April 13th, 2012, 07:57 PM
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Does knowing the rival has a younger sister make you feel any better?

YOUNGER SISTER!
That depends, is she actually going to be part of the story or does she give me a town map and never becomes relevant again?
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Old April 13th, 2012, 08:32 PM
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I see the rival as a Blue with some seriousness on the top.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 08:47 PM
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I see future shippings of the female protag with this rival for some reason. Honestly, I SUPPORT IT.
....because it's going to happen anyway? =P

Anywho. I'm liking the idea of "childhood friend who went down the wrong path" idea. Who knows, maybe he'll STAY that way. That would certainly be different for once.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 08:53 PM
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^ This is true. Besides, it's better than having two lost rivals who don't know what they're aiming for in the Pokémon world very well. :(

But if you think about it, somehow GameFreak is going to want to implement a lesson learned in the games. If the rival remains going down the wrong path, it's a bad example. But if going down the wrong path helps the rivalry between the protagonist epic enough, I'm all for it. As long as the rival stays clever and charming. ...Somehow.
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