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Drain Punch plz. i didn't even think of that. Drain Punch got that very pretty power boost, so now i want all of my Pokemon knowing it. Adding it back as a TM would make me so happy. I also hope to see a few of the very original attacks as TMs, too. Maybe like Fissure (just for kicks) or Pay Day and Bubblebeam. I would like Teleport back as a TM. It was fun having a Cloyster that knew Teleport. I really don't understand the point of Quash being a TM. Nor Round or Echoed Voice. Struggle Bug is somewhat useless, so seeing it being replaced with...idk, Bug Buzz would be nifty. c:
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Drain Punch plz. i didn't even think of that. Drain Punch got that very pretty power boost, so now i want all of my Pokemon knowing it. Adding it back as a TM would make me so happy. I also hope to see a few of the very original attacks as TMs, too. Maybe like Fissure (just for kicks) or Pay Day and Bubblebeam. I would like Teleport back as a TM. It was fun having a Cloyster that knew Teleport. I really don't understand the point of Quash being a TM. Nor Round or Echoed Voice. Struggle Bug is somewhat useless, so seeing it being replaced with...idk, Bug Buzz would be nifty. c:
I think Teleport would actually benefit the Unova region Pokemon, perhaps rework the off battle capabilities so that you can travel around Unova via teleportation or at least around ice areas.
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I think Teleport would actually benefit the Unova region Pokemon, perhaps rework the off battle capabilities so that you can travel around Unova via teleportation or at least around ice areas.
That would be awesome. Maybe treat it like Fly, or at least teleport to last healing spot. There aren't that many Pokemon Centers, from what I've noticed, and if there are, the space in between them is pretty impressive. So a quick way to hurry back to them would benefit many people greatly.
Of course then there's the houses that heal you, but still, it'd be pretty nifty to have.
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A move I'll like to see as tm again would be Seed bomb, I mean it got a power up but there aren't that many Pokemon who can learn it naturally.
Teleport would be nice to have, maybe they can make it into a Hm to make it more useful (perhaps it opens secret doors like dig did with the underwater regi door in RSE)
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Bringing back Stealth Rock and the like for competitive would be pretty nice, same goes for old TM's that are egg moves/hard to pass moves like Dark Pulse, etc. Less stupid support moves would also be nice.
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Another move I'll like to see return is dream eater, mostly so that Munna can have it early on.
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Another move I'll like to see return is dream eater, mostly so that Munna can have it early on.
Dream Eater is already a TM.
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Opp, I meant to say nightmare...
This might not have to do with new tm's but where do you think the tm's will be placed this time around? I can see sandstorm being around the new ruins.
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I would want TM changes very much. Third versions such as Platinum and the others probably didn't offer TM changes and went for the Move Tutor approach because TM's can still be traded through Pokémon back then. But now that TM's can no longer be held, they better change some of the more gimmicky ones like Round, Echoed Voice and Struggle Bug. I'm liking the thought of having Drain Punch, Giga Drain, Roost, Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse back as TM's. They could add a few new ones, too, as long as they make the new TM's compatible with various Pokémon.

If they couldn't change them, then they could at least make the current ones available to other Pokémon previously left out. I'll be fine with that.
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All I know is they should not have 120 power moves as TM's, I mean come on people, you know you you just feed that stuff to all your pkmn like chocolate
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All I know is they should not have 120 power moves as TM's, I mean come on people, you know you you just feed that stuff to all your pkmn like chocolate
Yes, and then all Dragons get walled by Steels, same with Fire against Water. Come on, dude! By doing this, you make it a nessecity to own Black and White, and would thus make it even harder to train for competitive battling. I mean, getting rid of TM Thunder makes Kyogre nigh unbeatable, outside of Zekrom. That's just an example. I would love Stealth Rock, Toxic Spikes, Dark Pulse, Giga Drain, and Drain Punch as TMs. And as an HM, I'd love to see Rock Climb again.
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Man, they're are so many moves I want as TMs. Obviously, I'd like to see SR return, as well as Dark/Dragon Pulse and Roost.

As for other moves, I'd like to see Nasty Plot (with distribution as wide as Swords Dance ), Aura Sphere, and Earth Power.
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Permanent TMs make move tutors redundant, save for Draco Meteor and other special moves.

Immagine BW2 had 50% -- 100% different Library of TMs. By owning BW and BW2, you get more TMs.
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All I know is they should not have 120 power moves as TM's, I mean come on people, you know you you just feed that stuff to all your pkmn like chocolate
Not really. Most of those moves have something wrong with them.

Solar Beam- Takes a turn to charge
Focus Blast- Mediocre accuracy
Thunder- Mediocre accuracy outside of rain
Blizzard- Mediocre accuracy outside of blizzard
Fire Blast- There isn't anything wrong with this one. I guess I could say it gets weaker in the rain.
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STEALTH ROCKS. BRING THEM BACK AS TMs
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I wish they kept Dark Pulse as a TM, that was the only good Dark move learnable via TM, infact it's probably one of the best Dark type moves.
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One change I would like to see doesn't involve the move itself but where in the game you get it. I didn't like that Ice Beam wasn't obtainable until post-game, and I definitely want to see that changed in B2/W2. Blizzard has horrible accuracy, and Samurott couldn't learn Frost Breath, so I was essentially stuck without a decent Ice attack till very late in the game.

TM 13, TM 24, and TM 35 were traditionally available in the Game Corner as prizes. Since I don't think there's much chance of bringing the Game Corners back, these TM's should be made available for purchase somewhere, just so you obtain them in a somewhat similar manner.
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While I'm not an expert in whether the Game Corner can come back, the Flamethrower, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt TMs have been buyable with coins at every Game Corner since Generation III, with the exception of the GBA Wireless ones in FR/LG/E.
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I totally agree with some of the old TM's coming back especially Stealth Rock, Drain Punch, the list can go on. Another thing that would be cool although not a TM, move tutors would be great maybe some with old 4th gen moves?
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Now, you can't give TMs as items, so they could make a completely new set of TMs and eliminate tutors with this. Also, Stealth Rock is useless in doubles and those are the official format, so IMO it's very unlikely that this move will return as TM (referring to the first post).
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Official format in what way? Most battles thus far, outside of official tournaments (of which I have no idea), are conducted as single battles, where Stealth Rock still has a use.

I would side with the idea Stealth Rock's curse-worthy destruction is still worth a TM. There's little reason not to make it a TM. Of course, whether they end up changing the TMs at all or not is still a question.
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I agree with the above tbh. I think that Stealth Rock didn't really -need- to be taken out in the first place, and the fact that it "wasn't necessary" shouldn't really count as a lot of TMs we have now aren't necessary. So really, ya. :x Still it'd be nice to have SR - not sure what I'd like to learn it via TM, but I think it would help people think more about their team set-out to be able to have that on more than just a few Pokemon.
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Yes, singles are popular among players, but it's not what Game Freak and Nintendo care about, unfortunately. And that's my point about unnecessity of SR at all. I miss Giga Drain and Drain Punch as TMs as well as Roost, teaching Hydreigon Dark Pulse via egg move is kinda hilarious as well. I wish they make a completely new set of TMs but that is very unlikely to happen. IMO, they could put elemental punches in place of Ice Beam, T-Bolt and Flamethrower as they are available in BW and the games will be compatibile. If they change a lot of TMs, there won't be any need to put move tutors in the game. Actually, it would be convienient - you'd have to pay for the move only once!
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IMO, they could put elemental punches in place of Ice Beam, T-Bolt and Flamethrower as they are available in BW and the games will be compatibile.
That would be terrible. :( Those attacks that we have are better - plus more Pokemon can learn them (I think?) and replacing them completely would be not so great, imo.
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