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Old March 17th, 2014 (02:53 PM).
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Hack of the Year 2013 Results

Introduction


So, I guess this is one those better late than never stories, haha. Over the past few months, there was a lot changes and some struggles going on behind the scenes in Emulation that made it tough to get everything organized. So, I am glad (and very thankful) that no one was beating down our pm boxes wondering what was taking so long. After playing through each hack, here we are with the final decisions of the year.

-Please note that this thread is for posting congratulations only. Do not complain that your favourite hack didn't win, or be rude towards others in your posts.


Drum roll please.....

Results:


The judges for 2013’s Hack of the Year were Spherical Ice, doesntknowhowtoplay, DrFuji, and myself. It was quite obvious we all have different opinions on hacks, which provided for a pretty good variety in the judging. Here is a breakdown of how it all panned out along with each judge’s score for the hacks:






We also have a first, may I present: Slideshow Showcase's Hack of the Year!







Now, we have a breakdown for each category that was voted for:


Most Votes





Most Engaging





Best Scripting





Best Storyline





Best Mapping





Best Graphics





Best Gameplay





Fan Favourite








And a big thanks goes to.....
Spherical Ice and DrFuji really kept this year's HotY together, even through some tough times, so please give them both a warm thank you. Spherical Ice also drew up all of the awards and was very helpful throughout!




Final Thoughts:



Thank you to everyone here who made this competition possible. Remember that we can't have a hack of the year without any new hacks, so keep on mapping, scripting, coding, and most importantly, having fun! As we go throughout this new year, don't be afraid to try something new and... boldly go where no man has gone before? Yeah, that sounds about right. Remember to congratulate the winners and keep on delving deeper into the art of rom hacking. We hope to see you all back here next time! Good luck everyone.

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Old March 18th, 2014 (12:02 AM).
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Funny how Glazed took almost every possible award and still ended up second =D

Congrats to LaZ and LC!
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Old March 18th, 2014 (01:08 AM).
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I hope Doesn't will judge the next HotY.
He's a good [Simon] judge.


Anyway, grats to LC, Glaze and Adventures~
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Old March 18th, 2014 (06:01 AM).
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I Badly Wanted Glazed or Adventures to win! :/
Anyways Congratulations To Linkandzelda For LC!
Well done,Redriders and Rockman :D!Best Of the luck Next Time!
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Old March 18th, 2014 (06:05 AM).
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I did play Liquid Crystal before, but never got the chance to try Glazed or Adventure Red. I will, though, at some point in future. :] Congrats to those who've won; you have all deserved it!
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Old March 18th, 2014 (06:39 AM).
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Red Adventures was worked on very hard the whole year and became 1 of the top current ACTIVE hacks

Glazed gets near 80 views in its thread every time i visit there, most people voted for it or Red Adventures to win and Glazed had updates too

Liquid Crystal barely had any updates in 2013 most where small bug fixes and the hack should get a HOTY like years ago this time a new hack should get the spotlight if you know what i mean :D

Like a guy said in the nominations thread the HOTY is a joke

Just my opinion no offence to LaZ or his hack
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Old March 18th, 2014 (11:18 AM).
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Well, at Least Two of My Favorite hacks Made it
Glazed & Adventure Red These two well Deserved Hack of the Year 2013
Both are The Best Played Last 2013 so That Cool
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Old March 18th, 2014 (11:45 AM).
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wow that was suprising. I really thought Glazed and AR were tied but wow.


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Old March 18th, 2014 (04:47 PM).
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Yes! Glazed deserved all the awards it received. Kudos to Lucbui for such an amazing hack.
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Old March 18th, 2014 (08:52 PM).
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glazed and adventure red r the most active hacks of year 2013.anyway congrats to creator of liquid crystal but still.
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Old March 19th, 2014 (12:03 AM).
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Quote originally posted by destinedjagold:
I hope Doesn't will judge the next HotY.
He's a good [Simon] judge.
Well... he doesn't know how to play, so it's plainly obvious he would be rating like that =D
(I'm surprised he actually gave something more than 5, though =D)
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Old March 19th, 2014 (12:44 AM).
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All three hacks are pretty impressive, and are enjoyable to play.
My favorite was glazed, because of it's engaging story etc.
But that the Second generation of all Pokemon, get this year the award is... I like that really much =)
Quote originally posted by Satoshi Ookami:
Funny how Glazed took almost every possible award and still ended up second =D

Congrats to LaZ and LC!
Like you said 😂 and I you take it the other way around, LC doesn't get any awards or second places, and won this year.

Congrats to all the three "winners"
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Old March 19th, 2014 (07:26 AM).
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Well, congratulations to all, even though i hoped Glazed. I'm gonna play all 3 of them now and see the awesomness of Liquid Crystal myself.
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Old March 19th, 2014 (07:37 AM).
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Congrats! I really actually wanted to vote for Glazed but I didn't vote for any of 'em. But I can't believe Glazed still came out as second
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Old March 19th, 2014 (07:41 AM).
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Wow.. Glazed and LC was really close! if only Doesn't judged better. JK! That "1" point score on glazed gameplay.
Anyway, congrats to the winners!

there should be Tool of the year next time
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Quote originally posted by Hiroshi Kaede:
there should be Tool of the year next time
This actually raises an interesting point. We shouldn't just be focusing on the hackers, particularly as most tend to use others' work (not that there's anything wrong with that). I think next year we should give recognition to the "behind the scenes" guys for want of a better word. Maybe something like "Best Tool", "Best Researcher" or something?

I mean there's always the possibility of that devolving into a popularity contest and I don't know how measurable that would be, but it's an interesting idea at the very least.

In any case, congrats to the winners! That judging looks really good I want to meet the judges and also the award creator and maybe sleep with them lmoa
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Old March 19th, 2014 (09:00 AM).
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I actually didnt pay attention to the votes yesterday i just saw all the votes i think only karatekid had a clue on what his doing doesntknowhowtoplay gave a 1 on Glazes gameplay and 2 to reds story (a hack which story's is based on the manga) xD

Well looking by the awards glazed and red won the most and fans voted them the most xD

Id suggest keep karatekid and replace the 3 other judges for the 2014 hoty like add 3 judges who actually know something about Hacks

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Old March 19th, 2014 (11:40 AM).
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Id suggest keep karatekid and replace the 3 other judges for the 2014 hoty like add 3 judges who actually know something about Hacks

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They do.

I see nothing wrong with the "judgements" myself. doesnt is nothing but honest there. really.
Giving that low ratings is kinda harsh, that is true. However, there are LOTS of things that can be improved with these projects; all of them. And I agree with the fact that none of them are close to being "perfect" and getting the rating of 40/40. No hack is.

If you think about it, the scale between rating something is from 1 to 10. That means that getting 5 means that there already has to be some eye-catching content there and getting high ratings (like 8 or 9) means that you must have done outstanding job. And no pokemon hack out there is that outstanding. Writing a few neat scripts from scratch and possibly knowing how to make them run when a map is entered or something won't make your hack anything insane (that would be required to get high ratings). That doesn't mean that it couldn't be fun to play though.

I do agree with all the other judges as well since giving low ratings makes others think, "Who are you to judge?" and things like that. If I was a judge, I wouldn't have been as negative as doesnt either, but I do think that I wouldn't have given any of them ratings higher than 25/40. Well maybe LC but I don't know about that either.
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Old March 19th, 2014 (12:25 PM).
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You should play all 3 hacks at their latest versions... they are not perfect but they are good even better than the official gen 1-3 games xD

A 5 out of 10 aint harsh but when you give 1-2 out of 10 then you are only asking for negative reactions
I mean look at his name he doesntknowhowtoplay and in his details he put "some loser"
How should i take that person seriously xD
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Old March 19th, 2014 (12:36 PM).
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Quote originally posted by miksy91:
They do.

I see nothing wrong with the "judgements" myself. doesnt is nothing but honest there. really.
Giving that low ratings is kinda harsh, that is true. However, there are LOTS of things that can be improved with these projects; all of them. And I agree with the fact that none of them are close to being "perfect" and getting the rating of 40/40. No hack is.

If you think about it, the scale between rating something is from 1 to 10. That means that getting 5 means that there already has to be some eye-catching content there and getting high ratings (like 8 or 9) means that you must have done outstanding job. And no pokemon hack out there is that outstanding. Writing a few neat scripts from scratch and possibly knowing how to make them run when a map is entered or something won't make your hack anything insane (that would be required to get high ratings). That doesn't mean that it couldn't be fun to play though.

I do agree with all the other judges as well since giving low ratings makes others think, "Who are you to judge?" and things like that. If I was a judge, I wouldn't have been as negative as doesnt either, but I do think that I wouldn't have given any of them ratings higher than 25/40. Well maybe LC but I don't know about that either.
Before this breaks out into an argument, I did notice that my scores are very different. That is because I rated the hacks by taking away points, not giving them. When I saw a lacking of something or I was unsatisfied, I would decrease my score. I am very sure that everyone has a different method. As long as the method is consistent, that is all that matters.

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Let's break down these scores based upon score/40:

Sperical Ice
0.725 - G
0.7 - LC
0.5 - AR

Me
0.825 - G
0.8 - LC
0.725 - AR

doesntknowhowtoplay
0.375 - G
0.475 - LC
0.3 - AR

DrFuji
0.65 - G
0.7 - LC
0.525 - AR

By looking at these numbers, we also see that everyone has a threshold 
they won't leave. The largest gap is only .225 with most gaps being less 
than .2. This means that everyone's method was consistent.

Just looking at this % wise, here are the winners for each person:

Sperical Ice
G
LC
AR

Me
G
LC
AR

doesntknowhowtoplay
LC
G
AR

DrFuji
LC
G
AR

As you can see, 2 of use rated Glazed to be 1st and 2 rated LC to be 
first. When factored in with the overall decision that the community 
gave us:

LC
AR
G

We can see that LC is on top. Now, if we did deeper into the math and 
average the %s, we get:

G: (0.725+0.825+0.375+0.65)/4 = 0.644
LC: (0.7+0.8+0.475+0.7)/4 = 0.669
AR: (0.5+0.725+0.3+0.525)/4 = 0.513
As you can see from the average of the percents, it still works out the same as when we simply counted up the scores. I know this last math doesn't include the fan favourite, but that still doesn't have enough leverage to change decision even if it was factored in. If the fans had rated Glazed #1, then yes, it could have changed it, but that didn't happen.

The lesson here is that the size of the score doesn't matter, it is what the score is in relation to the other scores that that judge gave that does matter. Every single person did not deviate by more than 25% between their highest and lowest scored hacks. This shows a very balanced opinion.

Also, by giving a low score, you get a little mad, right? Well, being mad is the first step to getting things done. People have made me angry beyond belief before and all it does is drive me to become better. G3HS is a great example of a project I started because I was mad at several different things. If we all gave perfect scores, people would feel that there is no room for improvement.


The point of this was to settle any and all arguments over the judge's method of scoring. If you want to discuss my views on this, pm me. I will not respond to this conversation on here and I will delete any responses personally. This is a warning since this thread is about congratulating the hackers, NOT complaining.
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Lol, I'm just happy that my hack was part of the top 3 . Congrats Linkandzelda and Redriders180
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Congrats to all three of them.
By the way, Doesn't is the best judge I've ever seen. xD
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Congrats for the HOTY LC!!! The three hacks here are the best though, but LC deserves it!!

Don't replace doesnt he's the best judge by far.. Reading some nuzlocke runs by him is an eye opener, especially the Dark Wirthing one.. Maybe he gave low score, but not a single hack between the three got a high score either...
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Old March 21st, 2014 (12:45 PM). Edited March 21st, 2014 by Trainer VyNk.
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First of all, I wanna thank LinkandZelda, Redriders180 & Rockmanmegaman for making Such Beautiful Hacks like Liquid Crystal, Glazed! & Adventure RED, I've played all of them. they were absolutely outstanding in their own aspects,
Comparing them is kind of like comparing Water, Ground & Electricity. Every Contender had its Weakness & Effectiveness against each other.. so I won't interfere in experts' decision.
Though if everybody is Sharing their own markings then I guess I'll have to also, Here goes-:

First is Probably for Story so-:
9 out of 10 For Pokemon Adventure RED (Best Storyline mimic)



7 out of 10 For Pokemon Glazed! (Best Hand Written Story)

6 out of 10 For Pokemon Liquid Crystal (Worst because of Short Storyline

Now Here goes markings for Graphics-:

8 out of 10 for Pokemon Glazed! (Best Graphics of All)

7.5 For Pokemon Liquid Crystal (Only For me)

6.5 For Pokemon Adventure RED (Wasn't upto it Cause of simple tileset)

Now here goes for Best Mapping! -:

9 out of 10 for Pokemon Glazed! (Yeah I think so)

7.5 out of 10 for Pokemon Liquid Crystal (it has feel)

7 out of 10 for Pokemon Adventure RED (Not that bad!

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Now without further ado Let's Count
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My Winner is->Pokemon Glazed-: 24 Points!

My Runner up is->Pokemon Adventure RED-: 22.5 Points!

My 2nd Runner up is->Pokemon Liquid Crystal-: 21 Points!
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Congrates Everybody I found My best hack out of all three, and Please Don't Flame me because it were only my own marking, I voted which I found deserving.

SORRY! If it hurts!
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Quote originally posted by Spherical Ice:
This actually raises an interesting point. We shouldn't just be focusing on the hackers, particularly as most tend to use others' work (not that there's anything wrong with that). I think next year we should give recognition to the "behind the scenes" guys for want of a better word. Maybe something like "Best Tool", "Best Researcher" or something?

I mean there's always the possibility of that devolving into a popularity contest and I don't know how measurable that would be, but it's an interesting idea at the very least.

In any case, congrats to the winners! That judging looks really good I want to meet the judges and also the award creator and maybe sleep with them lmoa
Exactly Especially with all the new tools coming up like MEH, get prepared for the next generation in hacking
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