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Fifth Generation Are Pokémon slaves to humans? Team Plasma thinks so. Travel the Unova region and prove them wrong in Black & White, and then return two years later in Black2 & White2.


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Old May 12th, 2012, 03:34 AM
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I wonder where Lenora is though. She's too much of a good Gym Leader to get rid off. And we don't need a Normal Elite 4 member since we have one as a Gym Leader. Hopefully we get to battle her at some point.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 03:42 AM
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Cheren, N & Bianca look waaay better than they did in Black & White, I love Bianca's new style with her hair down etc. Cheren looks more sophisticated and N just looks more .. care free?
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Old May 12th, 2012, 03:59 AM
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I don't like the new looks. Bianca is too covered up and baggy. I don't get why Cheren is squinting and has red cheeks. N looks less sinister. No me gusta.
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I actually like tornadus bird looking thingy and the new tiger landorus

I dont like thundarus because it looks to ghost like to me(it even has the
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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:25 AM
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Take a look at Cheren and Bianca's new look, Cheren lacks his glasses. Maybe he had his eyes laser-corrected or he's wearing contacts?

Now Bianca looks like the nerd, her hat looks cute. Maybe she developed a sight problem and had to start wearing glasses.

Anyways, I love their new designs so much I'm showcasing them as my latest theme.

The new forms for Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus were a disappointment.

Also Cheren being the 1st Gym is a letdown cos he said in B/W that he "wants to get stronger". He was one of my fave characters in Unova, and why did they give him a Patrat? It's such a weak Pokemon. So weak that I can beat him with just my starter. But enough ranting, I love the new features.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 05:05 AM
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@Aquarius: I don't think it looks like a ghost, rather a robot (in that one image of the 3DS AR searcher), and due to my dislike of robots... :(
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Landorus and Thundurus will be awesome but Tornadus, ugh... I don't really know. xD I guess we'll find out how they work out... but I'm excited about them for sure! Each time more news of B2W2 comes out, I get more excited for it!!
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:15 AM
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I love the new forms for Kyurem, but the new forms for Landorus, Thudurus, and Tornadus are disgusting and laughable.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:37 AM
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Okay, now I am utterly convinced that the new Kami trio formes are real. From an aesthetic point of view, I like Tornadus' new forme; it actually suits it because of its pure Flying status. From a competitive standpoint, I like Thundurus and Landorus' new formes because high offense is my style. I hope their Speed stats don't decrease when they change formes.

I'm surprised that Cheren and Bianca made reappearances in B/W, with Cheren as the Normal Gym Leader and Bianca as Prof. Juniper's assistant. That was quite a shocker to me.

And old characters making a comeback? Sweet. I've always wanted to see Steven, Lance and Blue in games other than the Kanto/Hoenn based ones.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:40 AM
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Lookin at them again, I like em all. Considering no one really expected them to come out with new forms, and the old ones were pretty odd, I don't see how anyone could be disappointed.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Landorus looks cool as a tiger, though I think they should've made it a fox to fit with the whole inari theme, oh well.
I find it interesting that they chose these three forms for them...
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Old May 12th, 2012, 03:25 PM
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I found this as a speculation on the background and origins of the new formes.

"(This isn't stated in the magazine.) Fan speculation on our forums is that the three new formes are inspired by Aztec legend. Tornadus is Huitzilopochtli, who after it died became a green and purple hummingbird, Thundurus is Quetzalcoatl, who after it died became a serpent, and Landorus is Tezcatlipoca / Tepeyollotl, a jaguar. In the Pokemon AR Searcher screenshot on the left side of the 3rd scan and in the anime poster on the right side of the 7th scan, you can see each of them resembling those animals (a bird, a snake, and a jaguar)."
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Old May 12th, 2012, 03:44 PM
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Also Cheren being the 1st Gym is a letdown cos he said in B/W that he "wants to get stronger". He was one of my fave characters in Unova, and why did they give him a Patrat? It's such a weak Pokemon. So weak that I can beat him with just my starter. But enough ranting, I love the new features.
I agree with this. It just makes no sense at all. Hopefully there's an explanation as to why he's the first gym leader in the games though.

Now that I can see the new forms...ehhhhhhhh my opinion isn't changed much. I like Landorus as the tiger...thingie, but I don't like the way his eyes look lol. Looks like he'll start babbling and drooling like Taz in Loony Toons. I still think Tornadus looks dumb as a bird. You can't go from a pissed off looking genie to a happy bird. And that color scheme...even though I think the post above mine gives us more reason as to why these forms are the way they are, that puke green and medicine purple doesn't work on a bird. Thundurus looks eh.

Bianca actually looks cute now! Yay! Aaaand Cheren looks too plain. :( Oh right. Normal gym leader. Pff.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:57 PM
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Bianca actually looks cute now! Yay! Aaaand Cheren looks too plain. Oh right. Normal gym leader. Pff.
Yeah, I love how Bianca looks all nerdy now.

Cheren looks so different without the specs, I assume he's wearing contacts.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 05:00 PM
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I adore the look of the new scared beast forms of the Kami trio; they look so powerful and inspiring! Although my main interest is how they're going to implement these new forms into the games; I can't see them being a main part of the story due to the whole Kyurem plot, so how else will they be introduced? I think their stat increases are certainly interesting; Tornadus seems to get the best deal out of it by far though. xD
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Thundurus is Quetzalcoatl "The Serpent"
Landorus is Tepeyollotl "The Jaguar"
Tornadus is Huitzilopochtli "The Hummingbird"

Went from Oriental to Meso-American references. Quite interesting indeed. (corrected by magmaruby)
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Also Cheren being the 1st Gym is a letdown cos he said in B/W that he "wants to get stronger". He was one of my fave characters in Unova, and why did they give him a Patrat? It's such a weak Pokemon. So weak that I can beat him with just my starter. But enough ranting, I love the new features.
At first, I also thought this made no sense at all, since you could battle his Pokémon at lv. 65 on the previous games.

But then this hit me: What if these low-leveled Pokémon he's got in B/W 2 don't mean he's been downgraded?
Perhaps he figured he should help new trainers out instead of being a total powerhouse, and decided to be one of the first (probably the first) Gym Leader(s) of Unova to encourage/give them advice.

I find that very possible, especially after those B/W scenes in which Alder asks Cheren if being the strongest trainer was really all that mattered, and told him there could be other options.

IDK, this theory seems to make sense to me.
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I'm loving what I'm seeing of Tornadus' new forme

Also now that I've seen that pic of Landorus I have to say it looks pretty awesome too
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It's 2012, lol.

TBH, I don't know why they'd do this, but it's a nice change of pace. I can't get the new formes though, I just have a DS...Too bad. I liked Tornadus's forme.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:46 AM
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Uh you mean MesoAmerican right, Hispanic are the spanish and present day spanish speaking latin America, not the Mayan, or Aztec's
Either way I find it nice that they reference the fact that god's sometimes take Animal forms.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 11:20 AM
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It's 2012, lol.

TBH, I don't know why they'd do this, but it's a nice change of pace. I can't get the new formes though, I just have a DS...Too bad. I liked Tornadus's forme.
Possibly a reference to Johto's beast trio or possibly just showing off they that they know about American history. They have referenced nuclear bombs with Victini, our country's symbol with Braviary and now this to reference the history of Texas and the Mayans/Aztecs/Incas.
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Ummmmmm...since when is Victini a nuclear bomb?
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Ummmmmm...since when is Victini a nuclear bomb?
Appears at the bottom of the Liberty Garden Tower.

Well the Liberty Garden Tower is the Statue of Liberty.

Victini is a Fire/Psychic type.
Victini's Dex Entry: It makes limitless energy inside its body. It releases this energy on any Pokemon who touches it.

Limitless energy that is extremely volatile? Fire/psychic type? This is a reference to nuclear energy.

Victini also references Victory and possibly also VJ day, the day we celebrated Japan's surrender in WW2 after nuking two of their cities.
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Appears at the bottom of the Liberty Garden Tower.

Well the Liberty Garden Tower is the Statue of Liberty.

Victini is a Fire/Psychic type.
Victini's Dex Entry: It makes limitless energy inside its body. It releases this energy on any Pokemon who touches it.

Limitless energy that is extremely volatile? Fire/psychic type? This is a reference to nuclear energy.

Victini also references Victory and possibly also VJ day, the day we celebrated Japan's surrender in WW2 after nuking two of their cities.
No, it shares its energy. It's not volatile. The idea of Victini being a bomb is a weak theory, not well-supported at all.

On-topic, I like the switch-up of historical references. It makes them feel less one-dimensional, and more like individual Pokemon.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 04:36 PM
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I actually like the Kami trio's new formes (Tornadus and Thundurus in particular). But I don't get why Landorus' new forme looks like a tiger when it's a half-Flying Pokemon.
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