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View Poll Results: Who is the hardest Hoenn Gym Leader?
Roxanne 5 1.77%
Brawly 24 8.51%
Wattson 26 9.22%
Flannery 7 2.48%
Norman 51 18.09%
Winona 22 7.80%
Tate & Liza 128 45.39%
Wallace/Juan 19 6.74%
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Old August 8th, 2012 (11:10 AM).
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I always had issues with Brawly, but never with any of the other Gym Leaders. Maybe I was just unlucky/lucky, but always had troubles with that darn 2nd gym.
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Old August 8th, 2012 (11:26 AM).
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A lot of the gyms can be difficult depending on which starter you chose. But I'd have to say Tate and Liza.
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Old August 16th, 2012 (05:56 PM).
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I always found myself being under-levelled when I reached Brawly and had to grind for xp in the nearby cave, his pokemons' moves are pretty devastating for that stage in the game, I suppose I never found Tate & Liza difficult as my instinct to spam surf usually resulted in a fairly easy win
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Old August 16th, 2012 (07:56 PM).
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I'd have to say Wallace/Juan.

That Kingdra was a pain.
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Old August 18th, 2012 (06:50 AM).
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Yeah, as I've heard from most people here some Gym Leaders can be really easy while others can be a nightmare based entirely on your starter choice.

I've heard Treecko and Torchic players struggle against more Gym Leaders than players who went with Mudkip like me.

But yeah, Norman was the hardest for me due to that Slaking. Brawly came a close second since I didn't have any Psychic-types with me at the time.
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Old August 18th, 2012 (11:13 PM).
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Tate & Liza were such a pain. Whenever I would fight them I would usually be under leveled or have nothing to counter their attacks. Whenever I beat them though I feel like a god.
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Brawly was hard. Always beating my pokemon with 1 Vital Throw. It sucks. >:(
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Old August 19th, 2012 (09:42 PM).
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It's a tie between Brawly and Tate and Liza, albeit varying. Everytime I pick Mudkip as my starter, Brawly's Makuhita always beats the heck out of my Marshtomp. It spammed Bulk Up and Arm Thrust, and I can't line up a decent shot due to that raised defense.

And when I picked Torchic, I always had a tough time against Tate and Liza, due to the fact that I'm facing twins, with type advantages no less.

So in total,

Mudkip - Brawly
Torchic - Tate and Liza
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Old August 20th, 2012 (03:38 PM).
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Tate & Liza were easy for me. The only thing I hated on their team was Xatu. Leaf Blade destroys everything else.
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Tate and Liza.When I first played R/S/E,It took me a whole day to finish them.Thelastavenger is right,it is GodLike to defeat to defeat them.
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I hated Tate and Liza. I thought it was psychic, not spam the living hell out of Earthquake. Took me by surprise the first time but I still hate having no middle ground to it. You either completely destroy them, or you struggle through the odds.
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Dunno about you guys, but my worst nightmare was Tate/Liza! I had no problems with Norman's Slaking as long as I had a Fighting or Steel type, but I had A LOT of difficulty with Tate/Liza, especially because I tended to pick Torchic as my Starter Pokemon!
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I had the most trouble with Liza and Tate when i was younger because I always started off with Torchic and my team also sucked.
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Old August 24th, 2012 (05:19 AM).
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Wattson. That Magneton resists everything and it's just horrible to fight so early on in the game :x Especially with the amount of times it confuses, paralyses and sonic boom's you, it's a really hard Pokémon to fight. D: Although maybe I just don't train the right teams for it haha.
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Tate and Liza were a nightmare. I thought it was a simple Psychic-Type team, not a Leaf-Blade spam Xatu team. I couldn't hit it either...I had to restart my game twice because of them.
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ive played emerald over 10 times with blaziken n4 had a probem withe the twins winonna and 1 time brawly where the hardest
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Old August 25th, 2012 (05:25 AM).
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By far Winona. If you don't get yourself a Flygon that early on or get a good Ice/Rock type move (Which I never could,) that Altaria is hard to beat. I usually have Hariyama by the time Watson comes around, so that's never a problem. Liza and Tate aren't too bad if you have Sealeo/Walrein. Surf and Ice Beam on that thing has worked perfectly for me against them.
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Old August 25th, 2012 (05:49 AM).
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Wattson is the only one to give me any amount of trouble, unless I had chosen Mudkip. Magnetons typing and moveset/parahax make it quite annoying that early in the game.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (04:56 PM).
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So I ALWAYS choose the fire starter so for me in Sapphire that's Torchic. I always catch a Wingull above Oldale Town so wipe the floor with Roxanne as Wingull knows water gun and my Torchic has evolved and learned double kick. My Combusken wipes out Brawly with Peck. An with it's ember I have no problem with Watson. With Flannery Pelliper comes to the rescue and then I destroy Norman with double kick. Winnona starts slowing me down and I have to plan but she has never beat me. The Twins are an issue but with a Baziken Pelliper combo I get through. Now Wallace kills me with whiscash's earthquake and Milotic's water pulse I die multiple times. I actually just defeated him on a my restarted Sapphire game with only my Blaziken and earthquake/double kick. Was level 60 at the time. I am a natural grinder and don't plan to do it and I think the level diffrence is what saved my arse this time. But hands down Wallace is one tough cookie.
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Old September 3rd, 2012 (08:09 AM).
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I had trouble with Flannery, Tate/Liza and wallace would be a pain but that's really it tbh.
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Well, it depends on the starter you chose. If you chose Torchic, you'll have problems with more than one gym leader. I chose Mudkip the second time and it was very powerful: i had problems only with Tate/Liza.
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To this day, Brawly gives me trouble... The thing is that I ALWAYS pick Treecko... And no matter what level, his defenses are terrible and I can never beat Brawly first try. I was younger when I used Swellow/Taillow, but I was really bad; now I try to go with something different, so I usually don't have a Taillow, or any flying type for that matter.
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Old September 8th, 2012 (09:41 PM).
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Norman and his stratergies in Emerald... ( shudders ). Facade in my opinion, is purely evil! After whittling his Slaking to the last bit of HP, it facaded on my poor Swablu, OHKOing it. I'm agreeing with everyone else and saying his Slaking is one huge tank. Plus it has a Sitrus Berry, so after all of that hard work trying to KO it, it restores a quarter of its HP.
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Old September 18th, 2012 (05:01 AM). Edited September 18th, 2012 by hils21.
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i prefer norman than the other gym leader, because his slaking is totally...totally...hmm...strong....lucky his last slaking always loafing around



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None of them... at all. Hoenn had the easiest gym leaders. @___@

I can't even go for who I had the slightest difficulty with like I would normally do in this situation because they were all so easy.
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