RSE Remake Speculation Thread

[crystalzapdos]

Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto

Isn't that essentially the premise of this entire thread? People finding hints that aren't really hints and concluding that RSE remakes are bound to happen because of them?

Sadly, yes. Things such as certain things being Red and Blue make R/S remakes inevitable, somehow.

Originally Posted by StarUmbreon

I have a theory, it's not a good one but it's something. Before I say it let me say I know the anime has nothing to do with the games but for promotional purposes I think I can use this.

Have you ever noticed that in the anime after every odd numbered region there is a filler ark?

Kanto (Gen I) -> Orange Islands (nothing to promote being R|B|Y were the only games out. Stalling until G|S come out.) -> Jhoto (Gen II) -> Hoenn (Gen III) -> Kanto (used to promote Emerald using the Battle Frontier & FR|LG taking place in Kanto. Stalling until D|P) -> Sinnoh (Gen IV) -> Unova (Gen V) -> ?

Maybe they will do what they did with Gen I & III & send Ash on a side quest to either Hoenn (unlikely) or an anime on region like Orange Islands (possible). they could use this side quest to promote R|S|E Remakes like they did with Gen III.

If he goes straight to the Gen VI region then maybe the remakes will be released during Gen VI or will not be released at all although I'm hoping they are.

It's sort of farfetched but it's something to work with.

P.S: For those wondering why they didn't do it with HG|SS it's because it was fully promoted in the DP Series using Lyra & promo for the Pokelthon (spellcheck) without the need of a filler ark.

Edit: If we get Remakes I'm excited to see what they do with the contest & secret bases ( I hope they bring these back)

The way I see it, Best Wishes 2 is the filler saga. I mean, Ash already has all eight gym badges. All there is left to do with B/W is the league. Everything else is B/W2 based. I think they can make that stall out untill September 2013 for gen 6.

I'm thinking Gen6 will come out September of next year, with the first Pokemon being revealed in Feburary's corocoro. Its alot similar to B/W, but every year since 2005, except 2011, we've had a new Pokemon revealed in Feburary. This year, we had Keldeo. 2010 had Zoroark, 2009 had Arceus, 2008 had Shaymin+Giritina's new form, 2007 had Darkrai, 2006 had Manaphy, and 2005 had Lucario.

It makes you wonder what they'll reveal this Feburary. It can't be an event Pokemon, as those have all been revealed already. It leads me to believe that it will be a gen6 Pokemon. If this is true, there won't be R/S remakes in fifth gen, nor would there be a need for a filler saga.

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

Perhaps for the remakes they could also add the Ryukyu islands for new areas to explore,which are south of Kyushu (in Hoenn's case they would be in the east). They could be like Hoenn's version of the Sevii islands.

I sure hope so. R/S quite literately had no postgame, except the Battle Tower.

Originally Posted by Pokemon Trainer Kevin

Something I though of, that could be totally wrong and probabally sounds REALLY stupid, but maybe possibly, they could release RS remakes as the first games on the 3DS, and maybe put placeholder spots for the 6th generation Pokemon in the data ready to be downloaded when the 6th generation games come out, and when they do, they can do some type of DLC type thing so you can "Update" the games and be able to have 6th gen Pokemon, attacks and abilities? Sounds stupid and unrealistic, I know but hey, it might be possible. I don't know how the whole system works.

If this was the case, wouldn't it just be easier to make them after gen6?

Originally Posted by Rayquaza.

I was thinking that since HGSS had both Johto and Kanto in them, Nintendo might make an RSE remake with Hoenn and Sinnoh? Could be fairly likely.

Fairly likely? More like not even a possibility.

Originally Posted by C Payne

As I mentioned before, does anyone think Altering Cave will get better use this time? The 3DS' streetpass/spotpass could be perfect for something like that, along with that Special storage box paper thing(where you can get the Pikachu wallpaper) and Secret Bases of course.

This is a good idea. For every Streetpass Tag you get, the Pokemon in the Cave changes. This keeps happening until you get 15 tags. On your 16th tag, it starts over. Also, they should change the Pokemon to be Sinnoh/Unova/6th gen Pokemon.

If they really wanted to, they could also have an item that changes every time, too. The first item would be a Pokeball or Potion, and with every tag you get, the item gets better and better.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

I think they will proably due away with the Altering cave, perhaps they'll add some version exclusive location to it like the water and magma caves in B2W2. Or perhaps they could put Hoenn's version of Black City and White forest.

[wombateiro]

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

Or perhaps they could put Hoenn's version of Black City and White forest.

I thought they could make for Ruby remake new modern city on new post-game island. The landmass and number of buildings would increase with number of residents. For Sapphire remake they could make town on island with increasing amount of wild Pokemon areas, walkable puddles, wooden houses and bridges. Maybe teams Magma and Aqua would have something to do with those locations.

[Rayquaza.]

What would be really cool is if Nintendo did a scene like the ones with Reshiram and zekrom in BW, except with Rayquaza, Kyogre and Groudon.

[RandomDSdevel]

Originally Posted by XanderO

Cartridge games are very finicky with injecting new code into them and corrode very easily when you do, which is why overuse of Action Replays and Game Sharks ruined most of the older games. [It would still be] possible to get them on the 3DS before 6th Gen just not with the ability to update it when they come out.

Methinks you might be quite mistaken, my skeptical friend. After all, Mario Kart 7 was patched after its release to remove some shortcut-related bugs soon after the Nintendo 3DS's own firmware was imbued with the capabilities necessary to allow this to happen. On another note, the only probable reason that Pokémon's fifth generation cannot fully communicate with its fourth one would be because it is limited by its own code so as to not allow this. Generation IV could not communicate directly with its predecessor because the device family which ran it lacked the necessary External Extension Connector. Whoever stated earlier their prediction that Generation VI might be the first generation of Pokémon games not to drop compatibility with previous titles may have hit the nail right on the head, so to speak. Both the Nintendo 3DS and the Nintendo DS use ad-hoc WiFi networks to communicate during local multiplayer sessions, and the former has full wireless backwards-compatibility with the latter. I hope that Nintendo has GameFreak utilize this fact in developing the remakes as a sort of 'Generation 5.5.'

[C Payne]

Originally Posted by Sydian

I like that idea about the Safari Zone. Also, since you mentioned Dream World Pokemon, how about Altering Cave having DW ability Pokemon after using Street Pass or whatever? Alter makes me think of alternative, which you know, DW abilities are usually a better alternative to the normal abilities. I think it'd work great. I like the idea about Pokeblocks in Safari Zone as well, as long as it's not some convoluted Pokeblock that's hard to make haha. Maybe instead it could attract Pokemon of certain natures? iirc, the cool, cute, etc moves have a color that corresponds to them, as well as the berries corresponding, which goes with natures too. I'd have to go look at Serebii to explain it better. But like you know, yellow Pokeblock attracts Pokemon with +def natures, blue attracts +sp att natures, etc. That make sense?

I never used the Pokeblock man, but I did like the Dept. Store, cause you could get decorations to put in your base to get across holes, which the best ones had holes. But yeah, it's little things like those special events that made it nice too. What else do you think could be added?

Having the Pokeblock work for different natured Pokemon, etc. is a great idea.

Originally Posted by crystalzapdos

This is a good idea. For every Streetpass Tag you get, the Pokemon in the Cave changes. This keeps happening until you get 15 tags. On your 16th tag, it starts over. Also, they should change the Pokemon to be Sinnoh/Unova/6th gen Pokemon.

If they really wanted to, they could also have an item that changes every time, too. The first item would be a Pokeball or Potion, and with every tag you get, the item gets better and better.

Yeah, it would swap each time you get a streetpass tag. Imo though, it might be better suited to being a little more randomized. On top of that, adding in the possibility of getting certain DW Pokes, that could give Altering Cave a chance at being used often.

I really did like the feature though, it deserves to be upgraded.

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

I think they will proably due away with the Altering cave, perhaps they'll add some version exclusive location to it like the water and magma caves in B2W2. Or perhaps they could put Hoenn's version of Black City and White forest.

If they add more involved with it, it could end up being a great addition to the games.



Back to ideas, I know it's a bit...dated, but does anyone think we'll have any use for Trainer Hill back? There wasn't really a wow factor to it, but it might have some kind of potential I guess, haha. I actually used it a bit, in all honesty.(having a tough time with this one)

Does anyone think that one Winstrate Family and Vito would be given a somewhat bigger role in the remakes? The family seemed to make too big a deal of Vito especially to just leave him out. Maybe you could see him from time to time on your travels, he might help out with something. Who knows...

Does anyone think we'll see some kind of new game involved at the game corner in Mauville(seeing as slots are probably out of the question)? The game corner should end up like that games place on one of the Sevii Islands in FrLg; it could go beyond the usual casino-type place and be given games that can be wirelessly played with others.



I'm probably getting carried away, but these could be some really PACKED games; a lot of ideas that could be brought back and up-to-date.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Vito appeared in Victory road, his name is Victor though (I think the english version over looked the connection between him and the family hence the two names but they're meant to be the same person in the jp version).

Perhaps they'll add the Wt to Mauville seeing how it they removed gambling thanks to the Eu. By the way Emerald's Mossdeep had the wireless game place iirc as well. Perhaps they'll put the Extralink on the Mossdeep island.

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

Vito appeared in Victory road, his name is Victor though (I think the english version over looked the connection between him and the family hence the two names but they're meant to be the same person in the jp version).

Perhaps they'll add the Wt to Mauville seeing how it they removed gambling thanks to the Eu. By the way Emerald's Mossdeep had the wireless game place iirc as well. Perhaps they'll put the Extralink on the Mossdeep island.

The Entralink is to Black and White as the Bug Catchin Contrest was to Gold/Silver/Heart Gold/Soul Silver, or the Under Ground was to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum.

The Remakes would only cater to what the original games had, so the highlights should be Secret Bases(if they return), Contest Halls(if they don't just stick it in Lillycove or remove it altogether).

All of the other Specials were exclusive to the other games so I wouldn't expect to see those kinda mechanics in the remakes. Very little chance that the remakes would get Dream World capabilities as well seeing as B/W didn't get Pokewalker link ability.

Other than Contests and Secret Bases...oh and the Trick House, Hoenn didn't have a specific Gimmicked location special to it. (Two of which carried on into the next Generation)

[dabeatmaster123]

You can really tell they are pushing our hopes into thinking RS remakes are possible since there are...

A) Appearances and New Sprites of Gym Leaders and Champions in BW 2
B) There are plenty of remade sprites specifically for Ruby and Sapphire pokemon
C) They are bringing in NPCs that hint about Hoenn in BW and so on...

[MiTjA]

Originally Posted by dabeatmaster123

C) They are bringing in NPCs that hint about Hoenn in BW and so on...

What NPCs have you got in mind?

[Malaa]

What kind of graphics would it be? I would hope for the classic RSE graphic, and not some Pokémon Black/White graphics. Just my opinion.

[RenegadeShroom]

I reckon it'd almost certainly be B/W-esque graphics. After all, FR/LG had R/S/E-esque graphics, and HG/SS had D/P/P-esque graphics. Besides, it's an opportunity to show off Hoenn with more advanced graphics, and the whole point of a remake is to remake the game with more advanced features, not to clone the original game. It'd be pretty boring if it was just R/S/E with fifth gen compatibility, since we've already played R/S/E, many people multiple times, and I imagine most people want something new with any remake that comes from the third gen. XD

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

@ Xander I don't see the Extralink as a location per say but more of games similar to how FrLgE had the doduo berry game though wi-fi. Though if it lacks extralink I hope they add some wi-fi uses as it'll be lacking in them compared to BWB2W2.

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

@ Xander I don't see the Extralink as a location per say but more of games similar to how FrLgE had the doduo berry game though wi-fi. Though if it lacks extralink I hope they add some wi-fi uses as it'll be lacking in them compared to BWB2W2.

The Entralink is the center section of Unova, so it is an actual location. If anything we'll prolly get the same Wifi usage that HG/SS had. (which is pretty much none outside of battle anyway as I don't remember if Pokethon was Wifi enabled)

With the possible return of Contests, we have Local Wifi Linked Contests, Pokeblock Mini Game, possible return of Mix Record for Secret Bases...and then normal battle Wifi linkage.

[C Payne]

Yeah, Pokeathlon at least had local WiFi, I played it with friends on numerous occasions(if that's the kind you weren't sure about). Mixing records was fun for Secret bases, seeing your friends on TV, Battle Frontier records, etc. Making Pokeblocks with friends was fun.

We also might see the return of those Mossdeep minigames, Dodrio berry picking and that Pokemon Jump thing, along with maybe some extra additions(although we can't be sure what they'll do to the Mauville Game Corner...we might just see a new 'risk' game there, like HGSS got Voltorb Flip).

Hopefully they'll allow regular WiFi for a lot of these situations(Contests should be a must!!). There's so much they could open up a bit more by doing that.

[Sydian]

I forgot about the Game Corner crap. Ugh. And RSE's Game Corner is really good to buy coins from. Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Psychic...good stuff. Some of my favorite moves. It would be a PAIN to have to do Voltorb Flip to get the coins to buy them, cause I'm worse at Voltorb Flip than roulette. I actually used to play the roulette in RSE lol...thought it was funnnn.

[Suicune™]

Originally Posted by Sydian

I forgot about the Game Corner crap. Ugh. And RSE's Game Corner is really good to buy coins from. Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Psychic...good stuff. Some of my favorite moves. It would be a PAIN to have to do Voltorb Flip to get the coins to buy them, cause I'm worse at Voltorb Flip than roulette. I actually used to play the roulette in RSE lol...thought it was funnnn.

If the gambling Law's were applied into HGSS resulting in the Voltorb Flip then it will most likely be the same for RS remakes unless it's lifted. They may create a new game hopefully with a more easier system to obtain coins.

[Sydian]

Or, you know, let us buy coins because not everyone is interested in playing whatever minigames they could possibly think to put in there.

[C Payne]

Isn't it based off of European laws on the matter though?(Unless it has changed for others; not trying to stray too far off topic) I mean I don't mind Voltorb Flip at all, as I really liked it, and wouldn't mind seeing even more new games, but I kind of miss the slots as well; wish the rest of us could have gotten it along with a new game, Japanese games got it in HGSS still.

This is what has made me wonder what they'll do with Mauville's Game Corner, although it probably will be a new game. I was a huge fan of the Roulette Wheel though, it was mad fun. I think a lot of us are more interested in being able to buy coins though. I also hope that little game place in Mossdeep will pop back up.

[Suicune™]

I don't see the point in the ban tbh, it's hardly influencing anything... I mean it's a Pokemon Game, 3+ year olds aren't going to comprehend what's going on really, they're just playing it for the coins and the Pokemon, right?

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Well you know people, they can sometimes make the biggest deal out of something so little.

I miss the roullets...perhaps they could have a game show style thing in which we play for coins.

I really want there to be an extralink in the remakes...it's not all that farfetched simply because it's a location in Unova I mean Sinnoh and Johto shared the same BF which was a location too...plus the extralink is said to be a mysterious location...
If not than I hope they add some of the new features like the making your own store in B2W2, Hoenn could have it's own version of it. Another nice thing would be if the Poketholon was added, I liked that place, perhaps it could take the place of one of the battle tents. Perhaps add in Musicals and Movies in the other two locations of the tents...it'll add a lot of mini games to do in Hoenn.

[Qweedol]

The roulette was so awesome. They should totally bring it back. I used that thing so much

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Originally Posted by Qweedol

The roulette was so awesome. They should totally bring it back. I used that thing so much

Same here, I liked it better than the slots. Hoenn's Game corner was my favorite out of the four.
Hopefully they'll decide to add it to the Jp and NA, and Aussie versions and simply leave it out of Eu versions this time...

[Kanto_Johto]

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

Same here, I liked it better than the slots. Hoenn's Game corner was my favorite out of the four.
Hopefully they'll decide to add it to the Jp and NA, and Aussie versions and simply leave it out of Eu versions this time...

Hey, we want the slots back as well! They were amazingly addictive in the older games.

I'd love to see them back too, but somehow I think Game Freak will stick to some novelty game like the Voltorb Flip, unfortunately.

[Pingouin_7]

I don't get why people think a remake is confirmed just because NPCs talk about the region in the current games.

Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto

Hey, we want the slots back as well! They were amazingly addictive in the older games.

I'd love to see them back too, but somehow I think Game Freak will stick to some novelty game like the Voltorb Flip, unfortunately.

It'd be awesome if they replaced the boring slot machines with funner stuff.