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Old June 22nd, 2012 (11:28 AM). Edited June 22nd, 2012 by Perrie ✿.
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Like every new Pokemon game moveset changes to most Pokemon come along with it. There have been quite a few Pokemon with new movesets. Serebii has compiled a list of all Pokemon with changes. I haven't noticed any major changes yet; after all I don't have all movesets memorized. Growlithe does get Outrage though!

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Pokemon that have had level up changes (What I have noticed, or someone else has posted)
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Growlithe learns Outrage at Level 43
Articuno and Moltres learn Hurricane at level 92
Zapdos learns Zap Cannon at level 92
Azurill gets Bounce at level 23
Marill and Azumarill learn Superpower at level 37 and 42 respectively.
Gligar and Gliscor learn Sky Uppercut at level 45
Beartic learns Superpower & Aqua Jet via move relearner
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Old June 22nd, 2012 (11:56 AM).
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Well they did this in FR/LG, so...

While I don't want to be "that guy", I still think that it's probably for the better, and it's gonna improve gameplay. They have professional degrees in game-making subjects, after all. They probably know what they're doing.

But aside from my rants, I think it's gonna be fun, learning different moves at different times! It's not something I'm obsessed about (I'm not that into competitive battling after all), but it'd be fun to see different Pokés learn weird new moves ^^
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I think it's neat Marill and Azumarill get Super Power, and Azurill learns bounce. c:
Growlithe with Outrage is pretty beastly, tbh. It looks like they switch up the Eeveelutions as well. Their Bites or Bite-alternatives are learned much earlier. And their last move is on level 45, so that's pretty cool.
Other than those, nothing really POPPED out at me.
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Quote originally posted by Jellicent♀:
I think it's neat Marill and Azumarill get Super Power, and Azurill learns bounce. c:
Growlithe with Outrage is pretty beastly, tbh. It looks like they switch up the Eeveelutions as well. Their Bites or Bite-alternatives are learned much earlier. And their last move is on level 45, so that's pretty cool.
Other than those, nothing really POPPED out at me.
I think that is going to be a major move on Arcanine now, due to its average stats and 110 atk. as its moveset is pretty poor with only Flare Blitz,Close Combat and Extreme Sped being worthwhile moves
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I think that is going to be a major move on Arcanine now, due to its average stats and 110 atk. as its moveset is pretty poor with only Flare Blitz,Close Combat and Extreme Sped being worthwhile moves
Oh, no doubt about that at all.
Also, dang, Grimer gets Sludge Bomb EARLY. Level 26, what's up!

Kind of cool that Buizel gets Hydro pump now, but too bad its Special Attack isn't all that wonderful to use it well.
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I think that is going to be a major move on Arcanine now, due to its average stats and 110 atk. as its moveset is pretty poor with only Flare Blitz,Close Combat and Extreme Sped being worthwhile moves
Idk really. I doubt Outrage would really help it. It may sneak its way onto some movesets but I doubt it'll be a huge staple move.

Gligar & Gliscor also get Sky Uppercut.

Gliscor just keeps getting better imo. First Roost, now Sky Uppercut.
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Gamefreak are still trolling Flareon. He still doesnt have flare blitz while his cousins are kinda useful, he still is in the shadows

STOP TROLLING FLAREON!!!!!
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Gamefreak are still trolling Flareon. He still doesnt have flare blitz while his cousins are kinda useful, he still is in the shadows

STOP TROLLING FLAREON!!!!!
Lmfao!! I totally forgot about this. But at least Superpower is back to give our neglected eon a bit of coverage.
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Quote originally posted by Jellicent♀:
I think it's neat Marill and Azumarill get Super Power, and Azurill learns bounce. c:
Azumarill w/ Aqua Jet & Superpower, and Ice Punch from Tutor c:

Am laughing in a sorta good way at the trolling of Electro Ball and Clear Smog. What I noticed that I like is Aqua Jet Beartic.
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I'm not really noticing some of these move changes. I'm only noticing the ones which have something noticeable added. SOMEONE HALP
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Can I be a bit picky?

Can someone list all the Pokemon revealed with JUST the new attacks so I can see what's goin on? I have like a hundred things goin on and can't compare new and old lists.
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Can I be a bit picky?

Can someone list all the Pokemon revealed with JUST the new attacks so I can see what's goin on? I have like a hundred things goin on and can't compare new and old lists.
I've started to do that in the first post. It would be nice to have assistance though, lol. It is quite hard to compare.
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Zapdos got trolled. Hard. If it got Hurricane, then it'd be a good rain abuser.

And how can Growlithe learn Outrage? 0_0 And why GameFreak gave Sky Uppercut to Gligar and Gliscor is beyond me.

Well, it's good to see Beartic with priority at least.
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Zapdos got trolled. Hard. If it got Hurricane, then it'd be a good rain abuser.

And how can Growlithe learn Outrage? 0_0 And why GameFreak gave Sky Uppercut to Gligar and Gliscor is beyond me.

Well, it's good to see Beartic with priority at least.
WHAT... they got Sky upper cut...that is the randomous thing ever even more than Amoongus coming out of tree's... though it does help against Ice types as they are weak against fighting moves
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Old June 22nd, 2012 (05:04 PM). Edited June 22nd, 2012 by Haseyo.
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Although maybe not as drastic, they swapped some learning levels or moved them around.

I have a Riolu in Black 2, and he's supposed to learn Force Palm at Lv11. I got Feint at Lv11. I'm sure they changed others too.

I also heard they switched around a bunch of the Eeveelution movesets, learning offensive moves earlier. If Leafeon gets Leaf Blade much earlier I would love to get one. 71 is just way too long.
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I hope so too.
and wish Flareon were given strong offensive moves for once...
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WHAT... they got Sky upper cut...that is the randomous thing ever even more than Amoongus coming out of tree's... though it does help against Ice types as they are weak against fighting moves ^_^
Um nope other than @ OU already which could use Ice Shard anyways - it won't help much or at all :(

Really random changes imo lool.
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I meant in general. Though you're right on Ice shard for competitive not much help there.

Wonder why they gave Arcanine outrage...lol these are random.
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Um nope other than @ OU already which could use Ice Shard anyways - it won't help much or at all :(

Really random changes imo lool.
what ice shard would ohko gliscor? ):

I did notice that the Eevee line had a lot of moves that they learn early. It's nice not to have to level them up to like 71 to get a decent move.
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Happy about Moltres and Azurill cause it's further strengthening two of my favourite pokémon
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Super excited. I love funky movesets and this helps me have more diverse and unusual movesets for my Pokemon. I can't wait for Tommy to learn Outrage. <3 I wish Petilil had gotten some better move tutor stuff or a movepool change but oh well. :(
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i don't think any of the listed move changes will make a difference outside of the ingame but i think that dark pulse on ninetales is something that every trainer should consider. dark pulse hits the special wall duskinoir if it comes in to wall you also it can hit espeon on the switch in if they want to come and block a will-o-wisp i think that this will be really useful for sun teams with entry hazards since ninetales can lure it in really easily
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