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Old July 11th, 2012, 05:58 AM
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The image should be in my signature. Huh that's strange.
It is probably there, my computer has glitched out even my own sig.

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The EV training is gonna take a while for me.
It does for everybody xD
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Old July 11th, 2012, 06:03 AM
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It is probably there, my computer has glitched out even my own sig.

It does for everybody xD
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Really though it's gonna be rough
I've never EV trained before, this is gonna be my first time. I actually learned about EV after reading SuperTreaz's EV Guide
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Old July 11th, 2012, 06:40 AM
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Really though it's gonna be rough
I've never EV trained before, this is gonna be my first time. I actually learned about EV after reading SuperTreaz's EV Guide
Wow, you really are new but there's nothing wrong with that just make sure they have the right EV's or you'll end up with undesirable results. Also do you know about IV's? They are even more crucial then EV's, without good IV's (Perfect IV's ~ 30-31, Good IV's ~ 26+, Bad IV's ~ Under 20) your stats will be terrible. Say you have a Ferrothorn, say it has a Sassy Nature (+SpD - Spe), an ideal move for that paticular pokemon would be Gyro Ball (Less the speed, More Power). It would be at it's strongest but without any investment of EV's, a hindering Nature, and a Speed IV of 0, It will have the lowest speed possible, making Gyro Ball an ideal move. And now that it's got ideal speed, we can. For this set, the EV Spread will be; 168 HP, 88 Def, 252 SpD (This set focuses on it's defenses to make it bulky) Now since Ferrothorn has great defense, you don't need to invest much in Def. Now it's stats at Lv. 100 (Assuming all IV's are 31, excluding Speed)
Hp - 331
Atk - 224
Def - 320
SAtk - 144
SpD - 364
Spe - 40

The Ability for this set is Iron Barbs, And the Item is either leftovers or rocky helmet (For Physical Sweepers, go for Rocky Helmet; For Special Sweepers, go for Leftovers.)

And Three other moves could be;
- Stealth Rocks
- Spikes
- Grass Knot

There you have it! A Fully trained Ferrothorn ready for some competitive battling! This set is a Mixed Wall with Sky-High Defenses, this can be used as a lead or on a stall team.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 06:47 AM
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Wow, you really are new but there's nothing wrong with that just make sure they have the right EV's or you'll end up with undesirable results. Also do you know about IV's? They are even more crucial then EV's, without good IV's (Perfect IV's ~ 30-31, Good IV's ~ 26+, Bad IV's ~ Under 20) your stats will be terrible. Say you have a Ferrothorn, say it has a Sassy Nature (+SpD - Spe), an ideal move for that paticular pokemon would be Gyro Ball (Less the speed, More Power). It would be at it's strongest but without any investment of EV's, a hindering Nature, and a Speed IV of 0, It will have the lowest speed possible, making Gyro Ball an ideal move. And now that it's got ideal speed, we can. For this set, the EV Spread will be; 168 HP, 88 Def, 252 SpD (This set focuses on it's defenses to make it bulky) Now since Ferrothorn has great defense, you don't need to invest much in Def. Now it's stats at Lv. 100 (Assuming all IV's are 31, excluding Speed)
Hp - 331
Atk - 224
Def - 320
SAtk - 144
SpD - 364
Spe - 40

The Ability for this set is Iron Barbs, And the Item is either leftovers or rocky helmet (For Physical Sweepers, go for Rocky Helmet; For Special Sweepers, go for Leftovers.)

And Three other moves could be;
- Stealth Rocks
- Spikes
- Grass Knot

There you have it! A Fully trained Ferrothorn ready for some competitive battling! This set is a Mixed Wall with Sky-High Defenses, this can be used as a lead or on a stall team.
1. You just gave me a better understanding of EV's
About IV's: From what I understand IVs aren't influenced, as in you can't control them. Is this correct?
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:07 AM
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1. You just gave me a better understanding of EV's
About IV's: From what I understand IVs aren't influenced, as in you can't control them. Is this correct?
U can kind of, use power items to get 31 IV in that stat if im correct, when breeding
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:08 AM
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About IV's: From what I understand IVs aren't influenced, as in you can't control them. Is this correct?
Yes, but you can RNG Abuse the IV's (A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN EV TRAINING) Or you can hatch a sh*t load of eggs, hoping you get the right IV's.

HOW TO KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE 31 IV's IN ANY ONE STAT:
For HP - Often Dozes off (Your IV could be 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26 and 31)
For Atk - Likes to Thrash About (Your IV could be 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26 and 31)
For Def - Capable of taking hits (Your IV could be 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26 and 31)
For SAtk - Mischievous (Your IV could be 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26 and 31)
For SpD - Somewhat Vain(Your IV could be 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26 and 31)
For Spe - Alert to Sounds (Your IV could be 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26 and 31)

Now The ratio for the above for the pokemon with that characteristic is 1:7 (For every 7 pokemon with the particular characteristic, one will have an IV of 31)

Also go to this site to check your IV's: http://www.psypokes.com/dex/iv.php (Make sure your pokemon's level is 5+ and no EV's are invested.

Hope this helped :D

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Use power items to get 31 IV in that stat , when breeding.
I can't believe i forgot this, ^ this is also correct.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:36 AM
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Currently I am EV Training a Elekid to evolve to Electivire.

Would it be smart to EV Train Attack and Speed?

My Elekid is "Alert to sounds) which I figure would support speed.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:38 AM
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Currently I am EV Training a Elekid to evolve to Electivire.

Would it be smart to EV Train Attack and Speed?

My Elekid is "Alert to sounds) which I figure would support speed.
252 Atk and Spd, whereas 4 in HP, Alert To sounds in good, for speed, whats the nature though, that matters more than IVs
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:40 AM
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252 Atk and Spd, whereas 4 in HP, Alert To sounds in good, for speed, whats the nature though, that matters more than IVs
Nature is Timid.

I can't seem to get any other nature
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:42 AM
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Nature is Timid.

I can't seem to get any other nature
timid, thats bad, sadly that decreases Akt, but Increases Spd, u will hit fast but wont hit hard. Try for Adamant or Jolly. Does the Breeder pokemon have Everstone, and what are their natures
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:45 AM
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timid, thats bad, sadly that decreases Akt, but Increases Spd, u will hit fast but wont hit hard. Try for Adamant or Jolly. Does the Breeder pokemon have Everstone, and what are their natures

Can I possibly use Motor Drive to counter Timid Nature?

I'm asking because I had lost the parent Pokemon.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:55 AM
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Can I possibly use Motor Drive to counter Timid Nature?

I'm asking because I had lost the parent Pokemon.
Yeah but it only works on Elect moves, and unless u fodder something, like Gyarados No-one will use them on you
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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:02 AM
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Yeah but it only works on Elect moves, and unless u fodder something, like Gyarados No-one will use them on you
Is there a item that ups Electric type moves?

If not, I'm gonna have to live with lowered attack
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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:07 AM
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Is there a item that ups Electric type moves?

If not, I'm gonna have to live with lowered attack
Life orb, choice band, magnet and Zap Plate. look these up on serebii and see which one you prefer
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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:12 AM
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Life orb, choice band, magnet and Zap Plate. look these up on serebii and see which one you prefer
I'm going Magnet.
Thanks for the help.

What EV's do you suggest for any Eevee evolutions?
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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:17 AM
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I'm going Magnet.
Thanks for the help.

What EV's do you suggest for any Eevee evolutions?
Each one varies, look on smogon Wi-fi battling to get the team you prefer
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Old July 11th, 2012, 01:14 PM
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Flareon is all about attack. Its Sp. Atk is pitiful,
Espeon and Glaceon are all for Sp. Atk.
Vaporeon has a buttload of HP, and with Acid Armor, it will have some decent Def,
Jolteon is super fast.
Umbreon and Leafeon are for Sp. Def and Defense, respectively,
And Eevee is pretty crappy in terms of Base Stats.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 05:17 PM
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Flareon is all about attack. Its Sp. Atk is pitiful,
Espeon and Glaceon are all for Sp. Atk.
Vaporeon has a buttload of HP, and with Acid Armor, it will have some decent Def,
Jolteon is super fast.
Umbreon and Leafeon are for Sp. Def and Defense, respectively,
And Eevee is pretty crappy in terms of Base Stats.
I'm gonna use Jolteon, because I already got a fire type on my team [Arcanine]

General question to everybody: Is there anything major to WiFi battling besides EV's and IV's? Also if you would be kind of enough to critique my Team once it is complete that would be wonderful.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 09:33 PM
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I will critique it for you, and also items and abilities matter a lot too. Say you have a T-tar and a Heatran. The Heatran's investment of Ev's is 252 Hp, 126 Def and 126 SpD. It has a relaxed nature. T-tar can have any EV's/IV's/Nature, it doesn't matter, we just want to use his ability, Sandstream. Sandstorms up Steel/Rock and Ground types Special Defense making this Heatran ideal for sandstorm teams. It is quite bulky and it will let you set up, providing you don't run into a EQ Dugtrio. Give Heatran a Leftovers and he's a force to be reckoned with.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 09:41 PM
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I will critique it for you, and also items and abilities matter a lot too. Say you have a T-tar and a Heatran. The Heatran's investment of Ev's is 252 Hp, 126 Def and 126 SpD. It has a relaxed nature. T-tar can have any EV's/IV's/Nature, it doesn't matter, we just want to use his ability, Sandstream. Sandstorms up Steel/Rock and Ground types Special Defense making this Heatran ideal for sandstorm teams. It is quite bulky and it will let you set up, providing you don't run into a EQ Dugtrio. Give Heatran a Leftovers and he's a force to be reckoned with.
no it doesn't lol it only ups rock types special defense
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Old July 11th, 2012, 10:37 PM
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no it doesn't lol it only ups rock types special defense
lol xD i thought it was all three
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Old July 12th, 2012, 07:11 AM
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I've been EVing for awhile now, it's really getting tedious. At least I had vitamins to give me a kickstart

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Old July 12th, 2012, 07:57 AM
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I've been EVing for awhile now, it's really getting tedious. At least I had vitamins to give me a kickstart
Do you use Ev spots and the Wings, it makes it easier
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Old July 12th, 2012, 08:39 AM
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Do you use Ev spots and the Wings, it makes it easier

Yea I'm EVing Patrat an Lillipup for attack.
The wings won't do much because they only raise one EV in each stat
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