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Old August 27th, 2012 (07:46 AM).
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Broad question, but I think it needs it. It's kind of pretty much asking how much do you value your flag and how far would you go to protect it, and the image it holds/means to you. Share your thoughts!

Actually, on the side, how much do you value your flag? To what extent?
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Old August 27th, 2012 (07:56 AM). Edited August 27th, 2012 by Honest.
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The actual flag? Well, I respect it, and I'll be pretty upset if someone tried to burn it or destroy it for no good reason. But I won't put my body on the line for a flag. That's a little dumb, in my opinion, no offence to anyone. I get patriotism, but if I wanted to die for my country, I'd die for it in a war, not protecting a flag. Flags can be remade. People can't.

Edit: I feel like I took this too literally. If we're talking about country wise, yes. Because I love my country.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (07:56 AM).
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At first when I saw this question I thought it was gonna mean would you die for your territory or something or gang related lol. But good thing it wasnt. I don't have anything I would die for. Especially with the govt. controlling the "flag" IMO the flag doesn't mean anything to the govt anymore. But if terrorist or something came over then ya but other than that I wouldn't "die" for it.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (07:58 AM).
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I am happy I live in a place that has all the benefits and freedoms that it does, but I would never ever die for my country. I'm not patriotic at all. I rather just move to a different country if there was a war.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (11:08 AM).
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Erm..assuming fighting for the flag represents fighting for your country?

I value the flag as a symbol to my origin. How much I value it is the problem. I don't think I would consider fighting for that flag or 'die' defending it for any reason. I'm not patriotic in that particular sense.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (11:25 AM).
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No?

If I was defending a flag, nope. I'm a bit of a pyromaniac anyways so watching something burn is pretty awesome to me.

For war? Nah, I'm a huge cloyster anyways so that's not an option for me.

And how do I value the flag? Anoyyyyyying as hell.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (11:41 AM).
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Lol no I'm not patriotic in any way so I wouldn't die for my flag.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (11:44 AM).
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I don't value the flag of my country much at all. It's simply a representation of my country rather than its actual entity, a symbolic one at that. So I would not choose to die for my flag.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (11:55 AM).
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A flag is just a representation of a country, and a country is just an embodiment (theoretically) of good values and ideals. I care about the ideals and values, not the country and certainly not the flag. No way I'm going to die for anything but my own ideals, and even then I'm not keen on dying at all.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (12:53 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Destiny Demon:
Lol no I'm not patriotic in any way so I wouldn't die for my flag.
Pretty much this. The longer I'm alive the less pride I have in my country honestly.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (01:17 PM).
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Hmm... I guess it depends which one? :O

Actually, scratch that, no way am I dieing for America or Canada. Sorry.


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Pretty much this. The longer I'm alive the less pride I have in my country honestly.

That's the grim truth of being American (jk. somewhat.)
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Old August 27th, 2012 (01:30 PM).
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Nah, I'm not at all patriotic. If there was a situation where I had to fight for my country then I wouldn't be able to kill another person, let alone be willing to let myself die, just to protect the flag.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (01:50 PM).
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I doubt I could die for anything that didn't lie inside my immediate interests/my heart. My country is not one of those things.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (03:29 PM).
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Absolutely not. I'm sure I seem selfish for saying this, especially given that there are plenty worse countries to live, but I don't like this country and would never risk my life for it. I'm the least patriotic person I know.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (03:43 PM).
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Absolutely not. I'm sure I seem selfish for saying this, especially given that there are plenty worse countries to live, but I don't like this country and would never risk my life for it. I'm the least patriotic person I know.
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Pretty much this. The longer I'm alive the less pride I have in my country honestly.
Both of the above statements define me to a T. I couldn't care less about the Great American Corporatocracy. When corporations became people and could "donate" large sums of money to political campaigns and politicians to create policy, I lost all faith in the government. By the way, I have a BA in Political Science.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (05:56 PM).
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I'm not at all patriotic, and furthermore, patriotism (toward any country) bothers me. I can't stand people who say "I'm proud to be Australian/American/French/whatever" and immediately want to smack them in the mouth and scream "WHERE'S YOUR PRIDE NOW, *****?"

*ahem* I'm sorry you had to see that.

No, I wouldn't die for my flag. Anybody who would is a fool lol.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (06:06 PM).
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I respect the flag. I will not damage the flag.

But I'm not going to die for it either. It represents something greater, but it is just cloth
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Old August 27th, 2012 (07:54 PM).
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Eeeeeeh. I'm not willing to die for anyone, much less the US, and even less so for the actual flag. The US is okay but it's never worth my life.

I really don't care for flags themselves. They're just... flags. To me they're not important. *shrugs*
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Old August 27th, 2012 (09:13 PM).
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I have this fantasy in my head that if I were ever in a moment where I'd have to choose, I'd go all samurai crazy style and die defending my flag. Any flag represents all of the people for which it flies, regardless of what they're like. To not take a stand defending it would mean I'm a soul-less monster with no sense of community.

Granted, you didn't state a specific flag, just a flag that I claim as my own. If it were someone else's flag, I wouldn't feel as devoted without a good reason.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (09:57 PM).
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My legit initial reaction was out loud "Are you serious?" in a wtf are you crazy sort of tone. So yeah... I'm not very patriotic. lol
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Old August 28th, 2012 (12:15 AM). Edited August 28th, 2012 by Went.
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A flag is a piece of cloth. If anything, I'd die for the ideals that some of them try to represent, but not for a particular country, not even mine. [/european federalist here]

Of course we all have our moments of flag-waving in particular celebrations but I take it as a guilty pleasure, to be honest. I think that, the less flags and things we have to separate and fight against each other to see "who's better", the best for all humanity.
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Old August 28th, 2012 (01:47 AM).
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UHH Die for a flag not even in my dreams I respect all flags of all countries and will never vandalise them but die for one is like ...... yeah nuthin :\ Nationalism I do not believe in I am no patriot just a citizen wanting to live a life of peace.
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Old August 28th, 2012 (02:04 AM).
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I would not die for my flag not that I'm not proud to be from my country, but I'm not dieing
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Old August 28th, 2012 (07:08 AM).
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I'm not a patriotic people. I can't stand patriotism. That's a good thing to like your own country, and to defend it but some people can go too far. It's stupid.
So, no, I wouldn't die for my flag. I see no reason in sacrificing myself for any country I could have been born in.
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Old August 28th, 2012 (08:07 AM).
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It would depend on the circumstance for me. If it was something like world war two and there was a risk that the country could be taken over and have another cultures beliefs pushed upon us then yes I would probably like to help out and do something about it because I like living here and I like the way things are run now. But if it was just something as stupid as a flag burning or disrespecting a part of the countries values and such I would be angry about it but I wouldn't do anything stupid because of it.
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