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Old September 30th, 2012 (08:35 AM).
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To extract the layout model of the map, you will need a hex editor. First of all... open up your hex editor, go to File > New, then File > Open and open the map file that you want to extract the layout model of the map from. Then after that... select the bytes from where it says "BMD0" in the text view all the way down to the byte next to where it says "BDHC". But if it doesn't have "BDHC" anywhere in the map file, keep a lookout for any text that has some Euro cent signs on it, if you see it... look for the "20 00 20" bytes in the hexadecimal area, as they indicate the header for the next area. After you've done that... copy and paste it onto the new blank file you made earlier.

I hope that helps, I'm sure it will help you with any future model extracting from ROMs.
Thanks! But Spiky already helped me out, it turned out HGSS maps exported by the program were bugged, and it would be fixed in the new release. But I'm sure this'll be useful if I ever try out BW/B2W2 (or any other game for that matter) maps, or to anyone else who wants to
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Old September 30th, 2012 (09:51 AM).
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Thanks! But Spiky already helped me out, it turned out HGSS maps exported by the program were bugged, and it would be fixed in the new release. But I'm sure this'll be useful if I ever try out BW/B2W2 (or any other game for that matter) maps, or to anyone else who wants to
What exactly are you gonna do with the maps?? A new game??
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Old September 30th, 2012 (10:49 AM).
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What exactly are you gonna do with the maps?? A new game??
If I wound up to be able to, yes.
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Old September 30th, 2012 (11:00 AM).
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If I wound up to be able to, yes.
Nice how is it going right now and can you make a r/s/e remake with hgss
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Old September 30th, 2012 (11:17 AM).
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Nice how is it going right now and can you make a r/s/e remake with hgss
Well, I've only just started, so umm...I can't really say how well it's going, but I know for sure this and PPRE are going to be my main tools. I'll leave a R/S/E remake to someone with more experience.
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Old September 30th, 2012 (11:31 AM).
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Well, I've only just started, so umm...I can't really say how well it's going, but I know for sure this and PPRE are going to be my main tools. I'll leave a R/S/E remake to someone with more experience.
Nice but can you tell me how the hack gonna look like??
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Old September 30th, 2012 (11:56 AM).
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Nice but can you tell me how the hack gonna look like??
Well, I really have no idea, I usually create it while building the maps and the Pokémon and the like. But let's not make this topic a chatroom.
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Old September 30th, 2012 (12:08 PM).
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Well, I really have no idea, I usually create it while building the maps and the Pokémon and the like. But let's not make this topic a chatroom.
ok my last question are you gonna make complete changes of the maps??
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Old September 30th, 2012 (12:11 PM).
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ok my last question are you gonna make complete changes of the maps??
Yes, since I'm now able to, thanks to this tool.
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Old October 1st, 2012 (07:39 AM).
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I have a new version for you! The most important updates are:
  • Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver support
  • Improved matrix editor (now saves correctly and loads way faster)
  • Repositioned buttons in the map editor (and added a new one)
  • Flag and event editors
You can get it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?kq77b55j47mr18l


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Old October 1st, 2012 (07:55 AM).
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Oh, yay! Another new version! I'm gonna start using it right away and start testing it out on HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Btw, I have been using the 3dvia screenshot method on NSBMD and opening it up in 3ds Max, for the B/W and B2/W2 maps. But the problem is... the textures are so small... that you have to go through the effort of resizing the materials in 3ds Max.

Just wondering... is there any way to doing it so that the materials remain at the same size on the polygons?
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Old October 1st, 2012 (08:01 AM).
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Oh, yay! Another new version! I'm gonna start using it right away and start testing it out on HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Btw, I have been using the 3dvia screenshot method on NSBMD and opening it up in 3ds Max, for the B/W and B2/W2 maps. But the problem is... the textures are so small... that you have to go through the effort of resizing the materials in 3ds Max.

Just wondering... is there any way to doing it so that the materials remain at the same size on the polygons?
Well, I have taken the map thing one step further and now you can export map models with textures (it asks you for the tileset to use). The only reliable method I know for keeping textures in MKDS Course Modifier, but I'm not entirely sure if the current version has NSBMD to OBJ enabled yet. Models converted with that tool keep their textures if imported into Sketchup or Blender, for instance.
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Old October 1st, 2012 (11:38 AM).
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awsome gonna try it out right now :D
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Old October 1st, 2012 (07:22 PM).
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Well, I have taken the map thing one step further and now you can export map models with textures (it asks you for the tileset to use). The only reliable method I know for keeping textures in MKDS Course Modifier, but I'm not entirely sure if the current version has NSBMD to OBJ enabled yet. Models converted with that tool keep their textures if imported into Sketchup or Blender, for instance.
Well, I just checked MKDS Course Editor and it seems the NSBMD to OBJ is still disabled. Maybe you could provide an open source code for the tool, so that future developers could actually create a converter for NSBMD to OBJ, or OBJ to NSBMD. 'Cause it would indeed help.
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Old October 1st, 2012 (08:31 PM).
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I think, if memory serves, the version that can convert NSBMD to OBJ is beta. But if you ask the author of the program if he can release a standalone converter, that'd be rather useful. And tell him to get rid of that annoying box it places under the model.

I'm currently testing map conversion, but for reasons, the map, when loaded, crashes the game. I'm trying to find out why.
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Old October 2nd, 2012 (07:18 AM).
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I think, if memory serves, the version that can convert NSBMD to OBJ is beta. But if you ask the author of the program if he can release a standalone converter, that'd be rather useful. And tell him to get rid of that annoying box it places under the model.

I'm currently testing map conversion, but for reasons, the map, when loaded, crashes the game. I'm trying to find out why.
I'll try asking him, we may be lucky

Today I noticed a small bug in the model list that prevented it from showing data. It's now fixed. If your tool shows "1.1.0", redownload it please. It should say "1.1.1". Thank you.
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Old October 3rd, 2012 (08:12 AM).
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if i want to fully edit maps how should i do??
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Old October 4th, 2012 (08:46 AM).
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if i want to fully edit maps how should i do??
Where it says "3D Model", click "Export with Textures" to save the map as .nsbmd, after that... convert the file into an .obj file with MKDS Course Modifier. Even if it's made for Mario Kart DS, it works for any Nitro System Build Models (.nsbmd, .bmd0). I've just converted Nuvema Town into an .obj using that tool.

Once you've converted the map, open it with Autodesk 3ds Max 8, after editing the map, save it as an .imd file using the Nitro Plugin for 3ds Max (which you can search for it on Google), which you can then open up with NNS 3D Material Editor (again, you'll have to search for it on Google), and there's a tool to convert the file into .nsbmd.
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Old October 4th, 2012 (12:20 PM).
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Where it says "3D Model", click "Export with Textures" to save the map as .nsbmd, after that... convert the file into an .obj file with MKDS Course Modifier. Even if it's made for Mario Kart DS, it works for any Nitro System Build Models (.nsbmd, .bmd0). I've just converted Nuvema Town into an .obj using that tool.

Once you've converted the map, open it with Autodesk 3ds Max 8, after editing the map, save it as an .imd file using the Nitro Plugin for 3ds Max (which you can search for it on Google), which you can then open up with NNS 3D Material Editor (again, you'll have to search for it on Google), and there's a tool to convert the file into .nsbmd.
So i can make a complete game with fully edit maps??
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So i can make a complete game with fully edit maps??
Well maybe not a complete game, but you can change every map this way.
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But autodesk 3ds max, Isent free is there any other program??
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Old October 5th, 2012 (10:40 AM).
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But autodesk 3ds max, Isent free is there any other program??
Well there is other programs such as Blender (an open source 3D editor) and Trimble Sketchup, which are free. But I'm currently using 3ds Max, and no I haven't payed for it incase you're wondering... I aren't rich. lol

But if you're downloading 3ds Max, make sure it's 3ds Max 8 with a keygen, not any newer version... 'cause the plugins won't work on newer versions.
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ok is the plugings work with blender??
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ok is the plugings work with blender??
No, they don't. Nintendo made plugins only for 3ds max and maya. At the moment there isn't any plugin for blender...
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Old October 5th, 2012 (11:02 AM).
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i see. i have download autodesk and gonna start make a hack ;D
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