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Old March 29th, 2013, 05:13 PM
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The ladder is working again, and the server is now properly displayed on Pokemon Showdown's main page once again thanks to Cathy. Party down, folks.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 11:52 AM
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Before I start, if anyone needs context for our failed April Fools' prank, then read this post. Keep in mind that the April Fools' prank is completely unrelated to this, excluding the fact that we decided to do it at the same time. Now, I'll explain what we're currently doing with the staff and why. Nica and I decided that we originally had too many staff members (moderators in particular), so we agreed pick new staff members all over again. The problem with having too much staff members early into the "new" server's life is that it essentially kills off any chance of new promotions. New users will have no luck in getting promoted when there are already 21 staff members around. If we were to add anymore, then we might as well should make the entire server community a bunch of staff members. This is the most important reason, but another is that it makes the server too intimidating when there are more staff on than regular or voice members. I've received complaints a few people about this, and some of them don't even return to the server. I also don't want to make voice or regular members feel inadequate when there's so many staff members and they haven't even been chosen. Additionally, we want to take server moderation more seriously, as I think the server could benefit from a slightly more stricter moderation. To add onto that, we didn't consider time zones and a few other things when choosing the previous staff members, and it's important to have at least one staff member on at all times. Many of our current staff members are concentrated into one particular time period.

Note that this wasn't done because we thought the current team was inefficient. In fact, I believe all of the previous staff did perfectly fine aside from a few inactive staff members here and there. This isn't a plan to remove any of you in particular; this was done for the aforementioned reasons. I don't want to make this seem like a big tease, with people being given staff ranks and then getting them taken away a few months later. But we all make mistakes, and I think Nica and I made a mistake by frivolously choosing so many staff members without thinking about the consequences. For that, I apologize, and I'm also sorry if this caused any unnecessary drama. We are doing this because we think this would be best for the server in the end. I'll also mention that there's something that may happen later down the road, and while it's still up in the air, it may get implemented. This something would likely affect the staff amount, and I don't want to revamp the staff again just for this.

Anyway, we will be choosing a new staff team tomorrow, but may happen later if Nica and I aren't completely for sure about it. There's a chance previous staff members will be chosen, but there may also be some new staff members. I also want to say that we're going to make it up to everyone by having some lighthearted fun on April Fools' Day. You may see a return of something we used to do, heh.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 01:34 PM
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Thought I'd explain here while on break from work. I have a concern strictly about moderation, but it'll expand to a few other things, too.

When concerning moderation currently on the server, I personally believe that we're fine as it is. The reason being is that (from what I'm seeing, anyway), people love it precisely because we're so laid back. Change that, and you're going to have some rebellion on your hands.

I understand that the core issue here is maintaining the image of the server (and possibly improving it). But when you get to the bottom of things...what is there to change? The current staff very rarely has encountered any such situation which would require a serious banning, so what's the reason behind making it stricter?

Activity is also a concern here. I believe that I speak for a lot of people when I say that, of course, we want the server to be as active and as awesome as possible. I just want to raise awareness into the fact that changing how things run may change that, since now it would be shifted into a different direction entirely.

I think the talk of moderation should hold off for now, because we have a risk of damaging said image by becoming "stricter" (though truth be told, that depends on how strict) but yeah. My two cents. Hope this all made sense.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 01:48 PM
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To clarify before anyone else replies, by stricter moderation I mean a stricter enforcement of keeping things appropriate (i.e. no obvious sex talk, unfortunately). I think we're doing fine otherwise. I'll reply later when I'm not busy.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 02:36 PM
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(i.e. no obvious sex talk, unfortunately)
Lulz.

On the actual subject, even though I just said it on the server (in a terribly non-coherent way), I don't think that intentionally making moderation stricter is the answer. I think Wolf and I agree in saying that some of the rules probably need some clarification (like adding the text part to the inappropriateness rule) so that the userbase knows exactly what isn't allowed. Leaving things open to interpretation means different people will do certain actions thinking they're allowed (specifically the sex types of talks, since I and probably many others thought it was okay to discuss it, but linking anything was bad). If we clarify everything and leave less things open to the imagination, then people will know exactly what is and isn't allowed. If they still choose to go against that, THEN stricter moderation can be enforced because they're breaking the newly clarified rules.

tl;dr: Make rules more clear, and if broken be stricter, not stricter for the sake of being stricter
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Old April 4th, 2013, 09:22 AM
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I agree with Jake; I'll flesh out the "no inappropriate content" rule soon.

Additionally, I'd like to welcome ForeverDash, glitchguy, jellicentfan1, and Twilight Sky as our new moderation team. It was a tough choice keeping it at such a small amount, because all of the candidates would've made good mods. Many things were taken into account; we even kept track of when certain candidates came on at certain times. However, we eventually agreed on these four. Keep in mind that new promotions may happen in the future, as we only have a few mods at the moment. We went with a small amount of mods at first because we didn't want to get ahead of ourselves and leave no room for new mods. We also want to see how the current team does and find out what we can improve on.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 12:32 PM
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Old April 5th, 2013, 02:52 PM
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We will be having some new Random Battle metagames added to the server soon! If what I did to the server scripts works, we will have the following metagames added: High Tier Random Battle, Medium Tier Random Battle, and Low Tier Random Battle. High Tier Randbats includes only Uber, OU, and BL Pokemon; Medium Tier Randbats includes only UU, BL2, RU, and BL3 Pokemon; and Low Tier Randbats includes only NU Pokemon. However, only Pokemon listed on Smogon's NU page will be added, so a lot of NFE Pokemon won't be in Low Tier Randbats. Additionally, all Pokemon in the tiered Randbats metagames will have level 100.

Edit: They're up and working!
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Old April 5th, 2013, 11:43 PM
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Battle replays now work for custom servers, including ours!
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Old April 6th, 2013, 01:27 AM
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Is there an /ignore type command?
I didn't receive one when entering /help, at least.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 01:38 AM
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Is there an /ignore type command?
I didn't receive one when entering /help, at least.
Yes there is!

I tested it, and it basically just ignores a member.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 01:53 AM
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Basically like Hikari said there is an ignore command implemented into the server. Although if you have troubles with any user whether it'd be behaviour or you have a good reason on why you choose to ignore them, you should probably bring it up with one of the mods or admins and they might be able to handle the situation. However yes there is an ignore command and to use it you type /ignore [user you want to be ignored here] and that should ignore them completely. If you want to unignore them then type /unignore [user you want to unignore here]. Hope this helped! :>
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Old April 6th, 2013, 03:18 AM
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Wolf, small suggestion. Can you make a separate just NU randbats? Without those in PU (so according to the usage stats?) and keep Lower Tier Randbats?? PLEASEEEEE. :3
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Old April 6th, 2013, 08:12 AM
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Is it possible to log out of one's username (becoming a guest) without closing the chat window/tab?
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Old April 6th, 2013, 12:53 PM
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Wolf, small suggestion. Can you make a separate just NU randbats? Without those in PU (so according to the usage stats?) and keep Lower Tier Randbats?? PLEASEEEEE. :3
I'll add it the next time we update the server. I might add Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Unova Randbats as well.

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Is it possible to log out of one's username (becoming a guest) without closing the chat window/tab?
I don't believe there's an option for that yet. However, you could change your username to Guest <numbers>, but I think you would remain in the chat. Of course, you can delete your browser cookies (which would also delete your teams) and rejoin as a guest, but that requires closing the tab.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 01:15 PM
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The "no inappropriate content" rule has been changed to:

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— Do not link to any pornography or other sexually explicit content in the chat.
However, the server is still not a place for kids. Expect to see sex talk every once and a while, as we are very lax on preventing mature topics from being discussed. We aim to make the server enjoyable for everyone, so while most people enjoy talking about mature content, others may not. For this reason, you may contact a server staff member and they will help change the topic even if it means using disciplinary action.
I find that this will benefit everyone. This won't completely outlaw any sort of mature content from being talked about, but if a user wants the topic to be changed, everyone must comply. However, if we get complaints about the server being too sexual, then I may consider adding an actual rule for it. But for now, we'll see how this goes.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 03:32 PM
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Is it possible to log out of one's username (becoming a guest) without closing the chat window/tab?
If you have Chrome, you can reload the page in an incognito window and be able to view the chat from there.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 03:41 PM
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The "no inappropriate content" rule has been changed to:

insert quotation

I find that this will benefit everyone. This won't completely outlaw any sort of mature content from being talked about, but if a user wants the topic to be changed, everyone must comply. However, if we get complaints about the server being too sexual, then I may consider adding an actual rule for it. But for now, we'll see how this goes.
I am all for the casual environment of server and think this is a good rule. I don't think sex should come up as often as it used to though - the amount of times we were "in range" in the waning months of my times here really made for an insufferably low quality chat and I think more "soft moderation" to steer away from that if/when people get a little too enthusiastic would be *swell*

though not having the impersonation command will undoubtedly help.......
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Old April 11th, 2013, 09:14 AM
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I'd to welcome Narnia and Jake♫ to the mod team! They were on our original list of promotions, but we decided to reduce the number to four and see how that pans out first. However, it definitely seemed like we would benefit from having them as staff, so here we are.

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though not having the impersonation command will undoubtedly help.......
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Old April 14th, 2013, 07:27 AM
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Okay so I know that w were gonna have a rule about too much sex talk and it was decided things were fine as they are, but after last night/this morning I think we need to have SOMETHING. That amount yesterday (and also some other nights on the server I've been feeling a little bit the same way) was just... not okay. At some points it just gets off putting and I think can drive people away from the chat? We just really need something to define what's okay and isn't, as last night it seemed like the mods weren't sure if they should be doing anything. Hopefully I'm not alone in feeling this way :/
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Old April 14th, 2013, 07:39 AM
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i agree entirely. i also don't think it's appropriate for 11 year olds, given the type of discussions that are going on there, and the fact that some of our users are 11. perhaps we should just outlaw it, and rather save it for when PS creates separate channels, and have a 18+ channel, etc. although that could be a while away but i do agree that something should change because it isn't right for that kind of stuff to be said to, and around children that age.
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Old April 14th, 2013, 08:54 AM
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i agree, some people tend to get "weird" when there were mature convos but that's just me... If it's possible, we should have separate channels just like what Nica said.
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Old April 14th, 2013, 10:32 AM
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I eventually resorted to the rule we have right now because it can difficult deciding what should be allowed and shouldn't be allowed. For example, sexual innuendo doesn't seem that bad at first, but in practice it can get very inappropriate fast. I think we should either outlaw it completely or keep it the way it is right now. However, keep in mind that the former would require a lot of strict moderation, as sexual innuendo has always been part of the server's culture.
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Old April 14th, 2013, 11:49 AM
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I agree in the fact that last night it was certainly taken too far, I don't think that is should be outlawed completely, but if it gets out of hand like it did last night us mods will have to step in more. I kinda feel bad about it because as Golurk mentioned I think we(us mods) were all kind of confused as to what to do, and looking back I feel like maybe I should have done more to stop it or to change the direction that it was going. Hopefully it won't get out of hand again like it did and we can go back to having mature conversations while still making the server enjoyable for everyone.


EDIT: I also want to add in that if you are feeling uncomfortable feel free to notify the mods as Jake said in the below post. Usually there will always be a mod on. However, us mods are ok with mature conversations for the most part and are not likely to change the subject unless someone asks us to or unless it gets way out of hand as it did last night.
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Old April 14th, 2013, 11:52 AM
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I think part of the problem though is that the fact people don't report it if they're uncomfortable. I mean I wasn't here for it last night, but if someone is that uncomfortable and they don't PM a staff member asking to change the subject, then it's kind of on them for the blame. That rule is there for a reason, and if people aren't saying anything if they're uncomfortable then what do you want?

People need to take responsibility on themselves to try to change something if they aren't comfortable, not blame everyone else. But maybe that's just me.
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