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Fourth Generation Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum kicked off the fourth generation of Pokémon. Two years later, fans of the Johto region were treated to a remastered adventure in HeartGold & SoulSilver. Discuss the games, explore the features, share your experiences, and help other players out!



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Old August 27th, 2012 (04:02 AM).
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In a somewhat opposing thread to that of the hardest gym leader in the HGSS series, this question targets the Gym Leader(s) that you felt were the easiest to defeat in battle acorss both series of games. (DPPt and HGSS).

Was it Janine? Or perhaps Erika? Maybe Fawkner's pidgey were feeble opponents? What about Gardenia? Did her roselia put up a fight, or did Maylene prove to be the easiest to punch? Did the experience fighting these gyms suffer consequently? Did you find the boring, and not worth your time? Would you have prefered a stronger computerised opponent, or do you think that your team was the leading factor of the easy battle between the two of you?

For me, I always found Fawkner, Pryce, Janine, Erika and Brock to be extremely easy to defeat. I suppose the reason why Erika and Brock were so easy, was because of my highly levelled team at that point in HGSS. my fire type and water types were at a high enough level to easily sweep their teams - which they did. Fawkners pokemon, were quite weak at that stage (naturally), and so were mine, but I alwaus felt, that his were just, a bit too weak. And Pryce, I found surprisingly easy, especially for an ice type gym leader who I found extreme trouble with in DPPt, Candice.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (05:22 AM).
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Gardenia is just literally a pushover if you start with Chimchar like I always do (cos I love monkeys) cos you can literally burn through her whole team.

I mean, she was way too easy for me.

As for HG/SS I beat Jasmine using only my Typhlosion. I mean, she was literally that easy.
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Old August 27th, 2012 (06:06 AM).
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I always thought Brock was very easy. By the time I got in Pewter City in SoulSilver I had an overleveled Feraligatr with Dragon Dance and Waterfall. I ended up one-shotting everything he threw at me. The Kanto Gym Leaders were all pretty easy to defeat in general in my opinion.
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Chuck and pretty much everyone in Kanto (Blue posed a bit of a challenge). I do remember creamin Chuck without him getting a single attack in edgewise.

As for D/P/Pt, Golbat made quick work of Gardenia, and Prinplup handled Roark with ease.

Then again, I didn't find any of the leaders in either set of games particularly challenging.
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Old August 29th, 2012 (10:42 AM).
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Roark was way too easy for me in Platinum, as I already had a level 20 Prinplup by then, and I just Bubblebeamed my way through his entire gym.

Much like that, I destroyed Bugsy's team with my Quilava's Flame Wheel. I also found Whitney quite easy, as long as you put Miltank to sleep (although it did have a Lum berry, the battle was nowhere near as difficult as so many find it).
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Old August 29th, 2012 (01:57 PM).
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In D/P/Pt, Roark was easy when Turtwig and Piplup were my starters. Gardenia was easy too when I went with Chimchar.

But seriously, Byron was the easiest regardless of what starter I picked. At least one of his Pokemon was weak to any of the 3 starters.

In HG/SS, I'm going with Jasmine (because I went with Totodile and Cyndaquil in separate playthroughs).
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Old August 29th, 2012 (02:06 PM).
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The easiest gym leader for me in DPPt was Roark because I ALWAYS chose Piplup.
In HGSS it was probably Brock. Again, because I always chose the water type.
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Roark and Brock, Stone pokemon do have a lot of weaknesses. if you chose water-pokemon on start it is sooo easy
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Old August 31st, 2012 (01:54 PM).
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Crasher Wake = easiest gym leader ever. I killed his team without even being damaged. I used Rotom (before I replaced it with Scizor) and Torterra and it was easy.

Roark, Byron, Volkner were incredibly easy too. Btw my team is the one in my signature
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Old August 31st, 2012 (05:39 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Cosmotone8:
The easiest gym leader for me in DPPt was Roark because I ALWAYS chose Piplup.
In HGSS it was probably Brock. Again, because I always chose the water type.
Quote originally posted by iLoveHate:
Roark and Brock, Stone pokemon do have a lot of weaknesses. if you chose water-pokemon on start it is sooo easy
Agreed with these guys. Teams that consist primarily of Rock/Ground are asking for trouble.
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Old August 31st, 2012 (07:39 PM).
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my monferno destroyed Roark and jasmine with typhlosion
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Old August 31st, 2012 (07:51 PM).
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In Platinum, it is Crasher Wake. I always start with Turtwig because I hate Empoleon and Infernape is okay, and I could sweep his team with my Torterra and Luxray.
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Old August 31st, 2012 (07:53 PM). Edited October 17th, 2012 by curiousnathan.
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Roark is a joke. No matter what you choose his team will easily be sweeped every time. Water and Grass are super effective against Rock and Chimchar gets Mach Punch when it becomes Monferno, at level 14.

Gardenia might be a pushover if you have Monferno, but if you have any of the other two starters and nothing good on it, like I did one time, she's annoying to defeat.
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Old September 19th, 2012 (04:12 PM).
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Erika. I usually use fire types, so her Pokemon were all 1 hit k.o.'s.
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Old September 20th, 2012 (10:30 AM).
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I know there's 3 whole regions worth of leaders to choose from here, but I'm going with Erika. She's always extremely easy and HG was no exception to this; her gym is almost a joke :p She's just incredibly easy to defeat and didn't really pose any challenge at all, so she's definitely the easiest in my opinion. Roark and Jasmine were also pretty easy, but not as easy as Erika :3
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Old September 20th, 2012 (10:35 AM).
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Definitely Roark for me. I mean, no matter which starter you choose, you'll always have an advantage over him, granted you evolve Chimchar before facing him, since it learns Mach punch which will just take down his team very easily. Gardenia was also pretty easy, as long as you chose Chimchar, though both of those are early gym leaders, so it's kinda given that they'd be easy to beat.
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Old September 20th, 2012 (11:10 AM).
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Platinum:
Roark
Gardenia(Roserade was tough, not enough for me to have a rematch)
Byron(half my team ended up having an advantage by that point)
Candice(Froslass ability and double was very annoying, but overall no rematch)
Volkner(why do the final gym leaders tend to be underwhelming?)

SoulSilver:
Falkner
Jasmine(I ended up having Vulpix and my Tototdile had become Feraligatr by that point)

It's so funny how the Johto gym leaders were easy in the original games, but most of them can give the Elite Four a run for their money in the remakes.

Kanto:
Erika
Janine
Brock(the only gym leader I ever fought whose entire team is full of double weaknesses and unlike Lance, they're common and dragon types are just plain on a whole different level than rock types)
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Old September 23rd, 2012 (12:25 AM).
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Roark seriously,is the easiest gym leader ever in the history of easy gym leaders. Your starter could easily dominate his team with either, a strong Razor Leaf,Bubble or Mach Punch. He's hardly any challenge.

I found Falkner easy too, even though his Pidgeotto spammed the heck out of Sand Attack and Roost. Erika wasn't really a challenge either, her Pokemon were incinerated by the power of my Arcanine :3.
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Old September 23rd, 2012 (01:15 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Kanto_Johto:
Agreed with these guys. Teams that consist primarily of Rock/Ground are asking for trouble.
Perhaps that's why three out of five regions have a rock type gym as their first? If we look to this generation specifically we've had two out of the three playable regions have a rock type gym as their first gym. (If we disregard the fact that the order in which we are able to challenge the Kanto Gyms in HGSS can vary.)
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Roark and Wake in DPPT for me because I always choose Turtwig.

HGSS again , Brock and Misty for the same reason as in DPPT , I choose Chikorita. Though the first few gyms can be rather difficult with Chikorita and it's not really the best choice for Johto.
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Old September 23rd, 2012 (11:07 AM).
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Whitney was very easy for me as I had a Nidoran female and just ploughed my way through with Double Kick lol, also Bugsy as well cause I had a Spearow and a Cyndaquil lol, poor guy had no chance.
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Old October 14th, 2012 (02:21 AM).
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Roark, hands down. I went with Piplup as my starter, so beating him was like sitting down on a comfy, cotton bed ... With soft, pink pillows ... Time for a nap.
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Old October 14th, 2012 (06:24 AM).
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As Laugh said above me, Roark was easiest for me in Platinum because I had Piplup.

As for Heartgold, I thought that Pryce was easy to defeat, because I had a lot of fire types to bring down his ice types easily. As for the Kanto section of the game, Erika for the same reason!
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Old October 14th, 2012 (08:44 AM).
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DPPt: Probably Maylene. I don't know why because I always grabbed Piplup or Turtwig (which should have a disadvantage) but I never really had a problem fighting her.

HGSS: Falkner. His pokemon were pretty pathetic (I even ran with Chikorita and defeated him). His Pidgey use to give me so much more trouble than his Pidgeotto (The dang thing was hacked in anyway) because of Sand-Attack. Never seriously attacking me, just Sand-Attack...
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Old October 17th, 2012 (09:56 PM).
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Gardenia was super easy because I started with a Chimchar. Bugsy in HG was also very easy as well because I started with Cyndaquil and had a Zubat to use Wing Attack.
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