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Old April 20th, 2013, 08:06 PM
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I'm on board if only for taxation reasons, but I'd kind of prefer if marijuana stays illegal. I absolutely cannot stand the smell so the less people able to or seeking to smoke it, the better, imo.
I've always felt taxation and the amount of drug related arrests going down are pretty good reasons for legalization. But, I do have to agree that the smell of it is awful, and many including myself would like to stay as far away from it as possible. Unfortunately I've just got to deal with it though, since if you go anywhere near downtown you can smell it somewhere (I don't even want to imagine what it was like today being 4/20 and all). Maybe an "under the influence" law similar to that of public intoxication could be tacked on, too, so we could keep it away from public areas, but people would be free to use it within the law.

EDIT: Actually, after looking it up, Colorado's Amendmant 64 does almost exactly what I proposed, so I guess it wouldn't be unprecedented if BC were to adopt it.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 08:12 PM
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I don't have any experience or damning second/third-hand experience, but is being under the influence of marijuana considered "intoxication"? Because I hear from everybody who's told me that it doesn't really do much in terms of your judgement.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 08:36 PM
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I don't know if it's really intoxication so much, but I'm probably not the one to be asking about it, either. It definitely does affect your judgement a little bit (slower reaction times, some disorientation, etc.), but to what extent vs. alcohol or other drugs I'm not so sure. I guess it would also depend on how much marijuana was actually consumed- following CO's amendment, it allows no more than one ounce in your possession.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 08:40 PM
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Wow, that sounds pretty legit. And most people would grow their own so they don't have to buy it from drug dealers eh? Plus legal stores too - it seems that marijuana will go mainstream and cease to become a thing any longer.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 09:02 PM
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It does seem to be the way that things are heading, now that the stigma behind marijuana is diminishing. It wouldn't surprise me if we see something similar to Colorado's law adopted in BC within the next 2-3 years (depending on how the upcoming election goes), and I'm sure other provinces would begin following suit down the line as well.

Also, off that topic, the Toronto Maple Leafs officialy qualified the playoffs tonight for the first time since 2004 (every other team in the league besides Toronto has been in them since then). I'm not the biggest fan of the team, but after how bad they've played the last few years, I can imagine there'll be a big sense of excitement in and around the city for the next couple of weeks.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 09:07 PM
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Ahh, that was back when I was in Grade 5. And boy was Mr. Gilmour proud! I'm one of those males who doesn't follow sports at all. Only during Olympics time
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Old April 20th, 2013, 09:36 PM
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Hey im from hamilton in canada! Im new to this forum and im glad to see canadians showing pride
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Old April 20th, 2013, 10:06 PM
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I'm one of those males who doesn't follow sports at all. Only during Olympics time :P
That's like me! XD

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Old April 28th, 2013, 09:02 PM
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http://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/don-che...omen-1.1257383

I don't know why it's "wrong" for him to say women shouldn't be in men's locker rooms. But that's apparently the overwhelming response on Twitter. I think the privacy of both genders should be respected, but nooooo I guess that's wrong. What are these people thinking?
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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:14 AM
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I'm actually on the fence about this one, but then again, as a guy I'd still find it awkward conducting an interview while half-naked guys are walking around, nevermind as a female reporter (and I'd find it much more awkward being interviewed by anyone regardless of gender just a minute after hopping out of the shower). Then again, that's part of their job as sports reporters, so I assume it doesn't even bother them at this point.

What I think people are more upset over anything else is the way that he worded his comments. Some of the issue is that people are only taking a very small piece of the comment ("I don't feel women are equal...") and bashing him as if he said that as a standalone statement. It also doesn't help that Don has a much different view of the way the game should be than that of the current generation (European players are soft, you need to be able to dish out hits and be able to take them to be a good player, etc.). But, I think that's a main reason he's still on TV- he'll encite a reaction from the viewers, either good or bad, which will keep them from changing the channel during an intermission. It's not the first time he's said an arguably stupid thing on TV, and I'm sure it won't be the last.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 05:57 PM
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I'd prefer a common area, a reporter scrum. Just because I find the interviews in the changeroom thing to be super weird - regardless of reporter gender.

But, as that isn't the case I see no reason why a female reporter shouldn't be able to perform her job as best she can. No problem with her being in the men's change room. That's her job. Equality.

If the players feel uncomfortable (which Cherry seemed to be saying, rather than the reporter being uncomfortable), then put your pants on. Game after game after game. It isn't a surprise there's going to be reporters there. Be decent and wait the ten minutes before getting undressed
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Old April 29th, 2013, 06:34 PM
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I wouldn't like it if people started bursting into the changeroom during high school. And I don't see why reporters should have it easy just because they're dealing with professionals. The changeroom is a place for the players, not for people who make their living by intruding on other people's drama. Doing her job the best she can is an excuse for her to invade others' privacy. Even if it isn't a surprise, they shouldn't be there regardless - and by telling players to "just put your pants on" all you end up doing is perpetuating this invasion of privacy, consent and common decency.

But why is women not being allowed to enter men's changeroom a question of equality? Should male reporters barge into the changerooms of the CWHL? Is the problem any better if you pose it as: men and women should be equal in their ability to walk into men's changerooms? To me that's ridiculous and false grounds to ask for equality, because one gender is generally okay in states of undress with members of the same and not opposite gender. I think that's the social norm and I see no reason why it should be sidelined to call Don out for being unequal.

This is what he actually said "I don't believe women should be in the male dressing room". Isn't that common sense? Isn't at least "I don't believe men should be in the female dressing room" common sense? He even contextualizes it with his own experience after. When he says "I don't feel women are equal. I feel they're above us. I think they're on a pedestal and they should not be walking in when naked guys are walking in. And some guys take advantage of it and I don't think (they) should be." Oh my goodness. Reading/listening comprehension people - he doesn't think women are inferior, more that there's a double standard in society in which women get away with doing uneasy stuff like this.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 07:13 PM
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I know what he said. I don't think he was saying women are inferior either.

Like I said, I think the interviews should take place outside of the change room. Works well for everyone involved. But until that happens, she should be there just as the men are.

With the men in women's change rooms, it is a false argument because it doesn't happen. Unfortunately, women's hockey doesn't have the same market. There is no same-level of demand for such post-game interviews and male reporters don't generally work that circuit. But, if there was already a precedent just like there is for women interviewing in male change rooms, then yes I would say he should be there. The solution is to move where all the interviews take place, not to say that you have to be eliminated from performing your job because of your gender.

That's her job. She knows it, the players know it, the league knows it, the network knows it. Same goes for anyone else involved (camera crew?). To fix it, you move where these post-game interviews take place, you don't remove her.

They're there on a professional level, both sides. It's not like waltzing into the opposite washroom
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Old April 29th, 2013, 07:49 PM
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With the men in women's change rooms, it is a false argument because it doesn't happen.
I think it's a perfectly fine argument. It shows how conducting interviews in a changeroom isn't professional at all (even though it is the practice) and against common decency and consent and shouldn't be happening. Does the fact that something always happens anyways legitimize it? It's like all of the other sexist behaviour - like groping - that we've pruned away even though it happened anyways and women used to see it coming.

It doesn't matter that women "don't have a choice", because that especially is a false argument. To say that a woman can't do her job without walking into a male changeroom is ludicrous because nobody is proposing that. I certainly don't think Don Cherry is saying "it's not a woman's place to be in a man's changeroom and if she's unable to do her job, so be it!". Her job isn't dictated by whether or not she can be in a changeroom with men, it's about getting some question answered - and a changeroom has nothing to do with that.

I think the men who are in a state of undress have the final say about who they're comfortable being in the same room with them. It's a question of consent, and if someone isn't okay with women in the changeroom, then you shouldn't force him to bear with it for the sake of "equality". And why should the players take the responsibility of making sure they're covered up if "they know it's gonna happen"? It's their changeroom to begin with, and it's their privacy that has to be respected as well. No one is going to get away with anything for the sake of their "equality" if it interferes with my consent. The reason men don't go into women's changeroom is because it's kinda clear that women don't get their privacy violated - but apparently the privacy of men is still open to debate, because I dunno, I guess a man like myself should just man up because it's natural and it's happening all the time, so I should just get over with it.

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MacLean told the Toronto Sun on Sunday that he didn’t think Cherry meant to be disrespectful, and he made the facial expression because he knew what the reaction would be on Twitter for such a controversial statement.
Right on. The internet, especially something that forces messages to be dumbed down like twitter, can be a huge source of stupid. Some of the comments fail at reading comprehension. Take this for example, from an Olympic Gold Medalist:

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“Just for the record. I have NEVER seen a naked player in a dressing room. Nor am I looking for one when I’m in there. #JobToDo”
Didn't he say that he was the one embarrassed? Did he say anything about women taking advantage of naked men? I don't think Cherry referred to ****s or anything related to that but apparently he believes female reporters are on the prowl for sweaty man-flesh >.>

What is wrong with the people in this country? Haven't these people passed that Grade 10 literacy test? The one that involves considering passages in context? smh.

Edit: apparently sloots is censored. What happens if we want to talk about slootwalk?
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Old April 29th, 2013, 08:18 PM
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Take it down a notch XD I agree with MacLean and I'd rather there be no locker room interviews.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 08:31 PM
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Btw, what I meant about Obama being more against Keystone was how Mulcair flipflopped from Layton's position. I don't need to say anything about Harper. Yeah they're all for it, but you'd think there'd be some resistance in Canada since we're the little power and supposedly more pro-green. Not anymore, not anymore.

What did you guys think about the Battle of York 1813 parade in Toronto a few days ago? Apparently it was the largest military parade since WWII and RCR got a new flag. Yayyyy.



I wasn't there myself. Am I being too much of a Toronto snob? 8D
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Old April 29th, 2013, 08:56 PM
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Btw, what I meant about Obama being more against Keystone was how Mulcair flipflopped from Layton's position. I don't need to say anything about Harper. Yeah they're all for it, but you'd think there'd be some resistance in Canada since we're the little power and supposedly more pro-green. Not anymore, not anymore.
That was in a different thread, but okay. XD Canada could block Keystone if they wanted, but that's the less green option.

The oil is coming out regardless and will be sent somewhere to be refined. That isn't going to change. All stopping keystone would do is have more of the oil sent to China by boat or still south through the States by train - both of which are more likely to end up in a spill than a modern pipeline. The pipeline's easier to contain.

The sands aren't going away. No Keystone doesn't damage the sands. Getting rid of the pipeline only gets rid of the better, safer way of carrying the oil. So, if you're green - you want the pipeline :p

My beef with our oil is that we send it elsewhere to be refined. We could do that here, fill Canadian jobs, and sell the refined oil to the States, China, whoever. Also a national pipeline would be beneficial to bring oil east (and possibly refine it there... although there isn't really a market in place for that here at the moment) to alleviate prices.

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I wasn't at the parade. It commemorates something significant, and I appreciate that it had such a turn out and strong reception. But, it just doesn't interest me lol No problem with it though.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 08:59 PM
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Oh that brings me to a topic of discussion involving Canada for once...

Cadets or Scouts anyone?
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Sorry, I was gone from PC for a while and completely forgot about this D:

I've never been in cadets or scouts, I'm more of a indoors, keep to myself kind of person.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:34 AM
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I was never in either of them myself, but 2 of my cousins were in the scouts for a while (one for almost five years, the other for only a year or two). I remember actually going on an overnight camping trip with one of said cousins for one of their events, but I didn't find it all that exciting. I guess it was an interesting experience, but nothing that really made me want to join for myself.

On a somewhat related note, when I moved about 10 years ago, I nearly ended up going to a school named Lord Baden-Powell Elementary, which was named after the founder of the boy scouts.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 09:25 AM
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I was in Girl Guides for a few years when I lived in Nova Scotia. I don't think they're really comparable... though I must admit I don't know a single thing about the boys' side of things. Are Cadets and Scouts different? As far as I can tell Cadets looks more military but for all I know, Scouts just leads into it. @_@;

I did enjoy Girl Guides though. I'd probably want my kids to attend something similar, in the future.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 10:50 AM
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I've taken part in no such thing, and I don't anyone personally who has - aside from Lightning.

Go you get free cookies if you're part of it?
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 11:03 AM
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I've been in cadets for 2 years and worked my way up to a sergeant. At that point I had administrative roles for a troop (platoon), which turned out to be like 20 cadets, 70% of which showed up on a good day XD. I was also teaching too. I ended up leaving because of a toxic "friendship" outside of cadets, but that's another story.

It is significantly more military-based that Scouts. For one, we do all the pomp and circumstance you see in the military - drill, dress, and deportment are all very important. We also shoot rifles and go on field training exercises (FTX's) in a variety of situations - in the spring, in fall, making biv sites, and if you're really talented you can sign up for a summer placement in Banff where you do a lot more outdoorsy stuff like rock climbing, rappelling, white-water kayaking, and the ever exciting nature walk XD! When you get into leadership roles, you have a lot more communication with the CF, and your patron unit might take a couple of you out on FTX's with them and play around with kit you normally don't touch in cadets.

My favourite part of cadets was probably drill, I ended up being in the flag party one summer at camp, and it was quite an honour. I never fired the feu-de-joie though, cuz I was an escort for the flags.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 08:48 PM
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I did do Cubs for a while. I think I still have my uniform somewhere with my sash and about 90% of the badges I earned.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 01:41 PM
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Woohoo, the snow has finally melted here in Sask, and for the first time this year I have seen green grass :D
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