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Old October 19th, 2012, 01:40 PM
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So today I was playing NU on the Pokemon Online server, and I got matched up against one of the top PO battlers, Z+V. I really respected Z+V before the battle, because we were one of the few people that really plays NU, and we've both been top 10 in the ladder. I've only battled Z+V a few times before in Tournaments, so I didn't really know his team.


At the start of the of the battle, we both said Gl to each other, but after missing his second fire blast and hitting his first(fire miss), the complaining began! And after getting a crit with pursuit mid-game on his altaria (which didn't matter), the person that I respected was getting really angry and started swearing.


The only other hax I got was a drain punch crit on his Gurdurr late game, which didn't matter that much as i could have easily predicted the double switch to skuntank and stayed in or just stalled out the gurdurr with drain punch.


But in Z+V's eyes, every bit of hax (there were only 2) was a game-breaking one, and even if it was, an intelligent player would just ignore it. The complaining was eventually too much for me that we started a really big argument:
Z+V: ****ing hax
Z+V: FUC
Z+V: ***** HAX
Z+V: FFFFFFF
woohooFTW: it just made the process faster...
Z+V: No.
Z+V: I won without your random hax
woohooFTW: switch to musharna
woohooFTW: pursuit
woohooFTW: gurduurr
woohooFTW: does a quarter
Z+V: Taunt + Pursuit
woohooFTW: moonlight
woohooFTW: repeat
Z+V: KIll your Musharna
woohooFTW: done
Z+V: I can predict you, you're so predictable
woohooFTW: i switch every time lol
Z+V: Hi Taunt and Pursuit
woohooFTW: w/e
Z+V: That **** your Musharna

That was only a bit of the argument/complaining, and if you want to see the whole thing, the log is here:
Spoiler:
Battle between Z+V and woohooFTW started!

Tier: Wifi NU
Mode: Singles
Variation: +15, -17
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle

Your team: Gurdurr / Musharna / Skuntank / Torterra / Rotom-F / Alomomola
Opponent's team: Armaldo / Klinklang / Altaria / Gurdurr / Skuntank / Rotom-F

Z+V: GL
woohooFTW: hi zv
woohooFTW: :]
Z+V: Hi
Z+V sent out Armaldo!
woohooFTW sent out Frostitute! (Rotom-F)

Start of turn 1
Frostitute used Volt Switch!
The foe's Armaldo lost 35% of its health!
woohooFTW called Frostitute back!
woohooFTW sent out Alomomola!

The foe's Armaldo used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around woohooFTW's team!

The foe's Armaldo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
gossip power is watching the battle.

Start of turn 2
woohooFTW called Alomomola back!
woohooFTW sent out Torterra!
Pointed stones dug into Torterra!

Z+V called Armaldo back!
Z+V sent out Altaria!

Torterra restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 3
The foe's Altaria used Fire Blast!
It's super effective!
Torterra lost 376 HP! (95% of its health)

Torterra used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around Z+V's team!

Torterra restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
woohooFTW: siht
Z+V:
woohooFTW: ***** lol

Start of turn 4
The foe's Altaria used Fire Blast!
The attack of the foe's Altaria missed!

Torterra used Synthesis!
Torterra regained health!

Torterra restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
woohooFTW: :O
woohooFTW: i thought you'd overpredict
gossip power stopped watching the battle.
Z+V: Meh

Start of turn 5
woohooFTW called Torterra back!
woohooFTW sent out Alomomola!
Pointed stones dug into Alomomola!

The foe's Altaria used Fire Blast!
It's not very effective...
Alomomola lost 139 HP! (26% of its health)

Alomomola restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Z+V: Wow
Z+V: That really sucked

Start of turn 6
Z+V called Altaria back!
Z+V sent out Motisma! (Rotom-F)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Motisma!

Alomomola used Toxic!
The foe's Motisma was badly poisoned!

Alomomola restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Motisma is hurt by poison!
woohooFTW:

Start of turn 7
Alomomola used Protect!
Alomomola protected itself!

The foe's Motisma used Trick!
Alomomola protected itself!

Alomomola restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Motisma is hurt by poison!
Z+V: Just cost me the game
woohooFTW: yup
Z+V: I'm used to hax, but still
woohooFTW:
Z+V: I was at 1550
Z+V: Now 1350

Start of turn 8
Z+V called Motisma back!
Z+V sent out Altaria!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Altaria!

woohooFTW called Alomomola back!
woohooFTW sent out Frostitute! (Rotom-F)
Pointed stones dug into Frostitute!

woohooFTW: i was 1408
woohooFTW: but i havent played for over 2 months
woohooFTW: so yeah

Start of turn 9
Z+V called Altaria back!
Z+V sent out Cliticlic! (Klinklang)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Cliticlic!

Frostitute used Blizzard!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Cliticlic lost 47% of its health!

The foe's Cliticlic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
woohooFTW called Frostitute back!
woohooFTW sent out Gurdurr!
Pointed stones dug into Gurdurr!

Z+V called Cliticlic back!
Z+V sent out Altaria!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Altaria!

Start of turn 11
woohooFTW called Gurdurr back!
woohooFTW sent out Alomomola!
Pointed stones dug into Alomomola!

The foe's Altaria used Draco Meteor!
Z+V:
woohooFTW: omFG
Alomomola lost 468 HP! (87% of its health)
Alomomola fainted!
The foe's Altaria's Sp. Att. sharply fell!

woohooFTW sent out Skuntank!
Pointed stones dug into Skuntank!

Start of turn 12
The foe's Altaria is being sent back!
Skuntank used Pursuit!
A critical hit!
The foe's Altaria lost 50% of its health!
The foe's Altaria fainted!

Z+V called Altaria back!
Z+V: ...
Z+V: Wow
woohooFTW: dont think that mattered though
woohooFTW:
Z+V: Mattered
woohooFTW: if youre max spa max spe
woohooFTW: then
woohooFTW: you'd die to rocks anyway
woohooFTW:
Z+V sent out Cliticlic! (Klinklang)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Cliticlic!

The foe's Cliticlic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Skuntank restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Z+V: Maybe

Start of turn 13
The foe's Cliticlic used Shift Gear!
The foe's Cliticlic's Speed sharply rose!
The foe's Cliticlic's Attack rose!

Skuntank used Taunt!
The foe's Cliticlic fell for the taunt!

The foe's Cliticlic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Skuntank restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
woohooFTW: it outspeeds

Start of turn 14
Skuntank used Sucker Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Cliticlic lost 20% of its health!

The foe's Cliticlic used Gear Grind!
Skuntank lost 184 HP! (53% of its health)
Z+V: Yeah
Skuntank lost 162 HP! (46% of its health)
Skuntank fainted!
Skuntank's Aftermath damages the foe's Cliticlic!
Hit 2 times!

The foe's Cliticlic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
woohooFTW sent out Gurdurr!
Pointed stones dug into Gurdurr!

woohooFTW: misclick
woohooFTW:
woohooFTW: i woulda switched in frostitute

Start of turn 15
Gurdurr used Mach Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Cliticlic lost 19% of its health!
The foe's Cliticlic fainted!

Z+V: This ****ing hax... Gurdurr kill me now
Z+V sent out Ouvrifier! (Gurdurr)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ouvrifier!

Start of turn 16
woohooFTW called Gurdurr back!
woohooFTW sent out Musharna!
Pointed stones dug into Musharna!

The foe's Ouvrifier used Bulk Up!
The foe's Ouvrifier's Attack rose!
The foe's Ouvrifier's Defense rose!

Musharna restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 17
Z+V called Ouvrifier back!
Z+V sent out Moufflair! (Skuntank)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Moufflair!

woohooFTW called Musharna back!
woohooFTW sent out Gurdurr!
Pointed stones dug into Gurdurr!

The foe's Moufflair restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Z+V: Seriously, I'm haxed every ****ing times
Z+V: It's a little bit boring

Start of turn 18
The foe's Moufflair used Taunt!
Gurdurr fell for the taunt!

Gurdurr used Drain Punch!
The foe's Moufflair lost 48% of its health!
The foe's Moufflair had its energy drained!

The foe's Moufflair restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
woohooFTW: sorry for that
woohooFTW: hax
woohooFTW: :[

Start of turn 19
Z+V called Moufflair back!
Z+V sent out Armaldo!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Armaldo!
Z+V: Draw ?

Gurdurr used Drain Punch!
The foe's Armaldo lost 34% of its health!
The foe's Armaldo had its energy drained!

The foe's Armaldo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
woohooFTW: lol
Z+V: This isn't a answer :'
Z+V: *
woohooFTW: mmm
woohooFTW: there was only one
woohooFTW: the fire blsat miss
woohooFTW: :/
Z+V: And the crit
woohooFTW: you woulda died to rocks
woohooFTW: lol
Z+V: Hi spinner
woohooFTW: that's getting 2hkod after rocks though
Z+V: I can spin early, but Tort was still alive, thanks FB miss
Z+V: I have Armaldo
woohooFTW: your spinner had x-scizzor
Z+V: And ?
Z+V: Ground type
woohooFTW: 2x
woohooFTW: sttill
woohooFTW: lol
Z+V: I mean
Z+V: You outspeed
Z+V: So you kill
Z+V: Thanks FB miss
Z+V: And Pursuit crit
Z+V:
woohooFTW: ...
woohooFTW: w/e
woohooFTW: you win
Z+V: ...
Z+V: You sweep me right now
Z+V: How the **** I win
woohooFTW: the argument lol
woohooFTW: js, it wouldn't have mattered that much
woohooFTW: you want me to calc?
woohooFTW: the pursuit
Z+V: Totally mattered
Z+V: Okay
woohooFTW: ok ill calc
woohooFTW: sign
Z+V: So, no draw I guess
Z+V: Another random drop, nice
woohooFTW: .
woohooFTW: actually i dont have a good damage calculator atm lol
Z+V: Totally mattered
woohooFTW: smogon's doesnt have 5th gen
woohooFTW: OK
Z+V: I'm sure about this
woohooFTW: Stop *****ing about hax
woohooFTW: its only one
Z+V: I was haxed 20 times in a row
woohooFTW: the pursuit doesnt matter
woohooFTW: only the fb
Z+V: This piss me off
woohooFTW: god
Z+V: The pursuit mattered CUZ I MISSED FB
Z+V: *didn't mattered
woohooFTW: ???
woohooFTW: I PURSUITED WITH my skuntank
Z+V: Cuz I can spin early without this FB miss
Z+V: So, Altaria can be at more percent
woohooFTW: i havent even USED my torterra after the miss
woohooFTW: ...
Z+V: I didn't spinned
Z+V: Cuz Torterra was still alive
woohooFTW: ..

Start of turn 20
The foe's Armaldo used Rapid Spin!
Gurdurr lost 22 HP! (5% of its health)
The foe's Armaldo blew away Stealth Rock!

Gurdurr used Drain Punch!
The foe's Armaldo lost 17% of its health!
The foe's Armaldo fainted!
The foe's Armaldo had its energy drained!

Gurdurr's taunt ended!
Z+V: ****ing hax
Z+V sent out Motisma! (Rotom-F)

Start of turn 21
Gurdurr used Mach Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Motisma lost 52% of its health!

The foe's Motisma used Trick!
The foe's Motisma switched items with Gurdurr!
The foe's Motisma obtained one Eviolite!
Gurdurr obtained one Choice Scarf!

The foe's Motisma is hurt by poison!
The foe's Motisma fainted!
Z+V sent out Ouvrifier! (Gurdurr)

[CB] danielloking is watching the battle.

Start of turn 22
woohooFTW called Gurdurr back!
woohooFTW sent out Musharna!
Pointed stones dug into Musharna!

Z+V called Ouvrifier back!
Z+V sent out Moufflair! (Skuntank)

The foe's Moufflair restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Musharna restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 23
Musharna is being sent back!
The foe's Moufflair used Pursuit!
It's super effective!
Musharna lost 186 HP! (42% of its health)

woohooFTW called Musharna back!
woohooFTW sent out Gurdurr!
Pointed stones dug into Gurdurr!

The foe's Moufflair restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

Start of turn 24
Z+V called Moufflair back!
Z+V sent out Ouvrifier! (Gurdurr)

Gurdurr used Drain Punch!
The foe's Ouvrifier lost 25% of its health!
The foe's Ouvrifier had its energy drained!

Start of turn 25
woohooFTW called Gurdurr back!
woohooFTW sent out Musharna!
Pointed stones dug into Musharna!

The foe's Ouvrifier used Bulk Up!
The foe's Ouvrifier's Attack rose!
The foe's Ouvrifier's Defense rose!

Musharna restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 26
The foe's Ouvrifier used Ice Punch!
Musharna lost 107 HP! (24% of its health)

Musharna used Moonlight!
Musharna regained health!

Musharna restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
[CB] danielloking: no payback?

Start of turn 27
Z+V called Ouvrifier back!
Z+V sent out Moufflair! (Skuntank)

Musharna used Moonlight!
Musharna regained health!
Z+V: Nah

The foe's Moufflair restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

Start of turn 28
Musharna is being sent back!
The foe's Moufflair used Pursuit!
It's super effective!
Musharna lost 186 HP! (42% of its health)

woohooFTW called Musharna back!
woohooFTW sent out Gurdurr!
Pointed stones dug into Gurdurr!

The foe's Moufflair restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

Start of turn 29
Z+V called Moufflair back!
Z+V sent out Ouvrifier! (Gurdurr)

Gurdurr used Drain Punch!
A critical hit!
The foe's Ouvrifier lost 56% of its health!
The foe's Ouvrifier had its energy drained!

Z+V: FUC
Z+V: ***** HAX
Z+V: FFFFFFF
woohooFTW: it just made the process faster...
Z+V: No.
Z+V: I won without your random hax
woohooFTW: switch to musharna
woohooFTW: pursuit
woohooFTW: gurduurr
woohooFTW: does a quarter
Z+V: Taunt + Pursuit
woohooFTW: moonlight
woohooFTW: repeat
Z+V: KIll your Musharna
woohooFTW: done
Z+V: I can predict you, you're so predictable
woohooFTW: i switch every time lol
Z+V: Hi Taunt and Pursuit
woohooFTW: w/e
Z+V: That **** your Musharna
[CB] danielloking: thats why youre so predictable
woohooFTW: i still had frostitute
Z+V: Mach Punch.
woohooFTW: at half
Z+V: SR.
woohooFTW: and torterra for skuntank
woohooFTW: goddammit
Z+V: And ?
Z+V: If Skuntank rape your Musharna, I sweep with Gurdurr
Z+V: L2P
woohooFTW: nothing... w/e
IronMewtwo is watching the battle.
IronMewtwo: 15-18 iens ?
woohooFTW: do you ***** like this before?
Z+V: n
Z+V: I hate random haxers
Z+V: When they don't admit this
IronMewtwo stopped watching the battle.
woohooFTW:
woohooFTW: OK FINE YOU GOT HAXED ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
Z+V: Especially when I deserve the win and they said this didn't mattered
Z+V: It's the worst kind of noob
woohooFTW: so you call me a noob LMAO
[CB] danielloking: just stop raging in the end he isnt worth it
Z+V: y
[CB] danielloking: lol :D
woohooFTW: [CB] danielloking: just stop raging in the end he isnt worth it
Z+V: You know how to quote, wow
Z+V:
woohooFTW: ikr
Juhgr is watching the battle.
woohooFTW: you know how to type, wow
Z+V: True players draw when they hax
woohooFTW: :O
Juhgr stopped watching the battle.
Z+V: w/e
The battle ended by timeout.
woohooFTW won the battle!

The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window.

So that was the story of having a person I respect complain like a 10-year-old.

Feel free to post in this thread with your story of someone complaining about hax!

Peace Out
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I get haxed a lot and the hax gods who are the gods of hax hate me I'm sad :[
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Old October 20th, 2012, 09:29 PM
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Eh it's not a big deal, he's probably not even that good if he has to do that and just looks good because nu is a small player base
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Old October 30th, 2012, 10:13 AM
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Um... aren't hax things that have a chance of happening, or am I really off there?

Most the stuff that happened either has a 100% of happening, or was a 1/16 chance. How are these hax and not dumb luck by a random generator built into the game?
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Old October 31st, 2012, 02:04 PM
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Um... aren't hax things that have a chance of happening, or am I really off there?

Most the stuff that happened either has a 100% of happening, or was a 1/16 chance. How are these hax and not dumb luck by a random generator built into the game?
things that have a chance of happening and effect an otherwise "flat" game [like scald scoring a burn], it is a random generator basically
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Old November 1st, 2012, 03:31 AM
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Alright, just making sure. So, how can you complain about hax when it's only a chance of happening? You can complain if it's the Flinchkiss or Flinchachi, but for crits? Can't really complain about those.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 06:43 AM
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This happens if not most of the time, quite frequently. I just end up finishing the battle whoopin a** and closing the window and looking for a new battle.

No one is ever worth a response when they are confrontational in my opinion.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 09:05 AM
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Seriously, whoever gets mad about luck not smiling on them needs to buck up and take it with a grin. I laugh whenever anyone gets a lucky or unnecessary crit.
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Old November 21st, 2012, 07:33 AM
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I tend to say things like "Stupid Hax " or "You're so lucky you got that hax.." but I never really get into an argument, because Pokemon is Pokemon is and battling is battling. There's always going to be hax and you can't do anything about it. And half the time hax will go in your favor: "woohooFTW: OK FINE YOU GOT HAXED ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?"

So I see no reason to get upset.
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