[Discussion] Nudity and Nude Art

[PEDRO12]

I've been wanting to post this thread for a while, because I am very interested in hearing all of your opinions concerning this matter.

Topic at hand: Nudity and Nude Art

A lot of us are on dA and/or have been to dA many times. Most of us, actually. And if you browse dA you are more than likely to find many profiles jack-filled with nudity, in the form of art. What is your view on nudity? Do you think it's wrong for a girl/guy to post nude pictures of themselves/others? Do you think it can be a form of art? Are you at all engaged in this art, and how so/much?

Personally, I don't mind it at all. If a person is okay with showing themselves nude, why should others object? If other people don't like it, or at the very least mind seeing nude pictures, avoid them. 99% of them are tagged mature and hidden on dA anyways (And other sites). I can't deny that at times, I do admire the art. The human body is an elegant and beautiful thing, no problem with showcasing it as a form of art in my own view.

However, I would never, ever, EVER, post pictures of myself nude xD I'd rather be burnt alive.

Alright, this topic usually brings a lot of debate and at some point it might get harsh. Try to keep everything civil and mind each others' opinions with the utmost respect. Discuss.

[Shiny Celebi]

I honestly think if it's legal and a person wants to do it of their own free will, they should be able to post nude pic. I myself would never do so but then again, Im not comfortable exposing myself to the masses. Though the one thing people need to remember is once it's out there, it's out and you can never get it back. I dont think nudity is wrong, we are born nude after all, so it's not my right to tell a person they cannot do so, but they should be careful and really be comfortable showing themselves to the world and really be prepared if they post a nude picture. Again I stress that this should be legal, I dont agree with minors posting nude pics of themselves.

[Scarf]

I was gonna say mostly everything Shiny Celebi said.

Nudity clearly can be art. (Look up Michelangelo's David or Botticelli's The Birth of Venus for famous historical pieces of nude art.) Those are a sculpture and painting, but photography is just a different medium and I don't see how that might matter. Since photographs show real people of course you ought to have their permission, but aside from that, yeah, fine. Go ahead. As long as you think about the possible consequences and are okay with them.

[Vine Whip]

The title caught my eye hehe.
I never minded nudity. Well, why lie? I've actually played nude with a couple friends before .-.
I know, it might sound wrong. But I'm Lesbian, I don't feel like my body is mine and I have no problem showcasing it. I've never taken any photos though, I might though, some day. I don't know right now, with my new sexuality appearing last year, my whole sex life has turned upside down. I'd been with boys before (If you know what I mean (:) and I enjoyed it. But last year the satisfaction started wearing off and right now I'm lost in between sexes.

So like I said, my body doesn't really feel like it's mine, so I'm not the best judge on this matter.

[Snowdrop]

It's not so much art as it is porn, borderline porn, or people who want to draw attention to themselves. I'm sure some people like 'true' nude art, and yeah I suppose it can be a form of art, people can legally post nude pictures of themselves, but I hate it. I might get fleck for that but oh well. It's just gross in my eyes (natural as it is) and the same things can usually be represented with everything covered up, but there are trillions of circumstances and meanings art can have so there have to be some instances where it fits. I just don't like it, particularly on deviantArt. Of course the old paintings mentioned above have way more merit than most things on dA xD

[TRIFORCE89]

Originally Posted by PEDRO12

Do you think it can be a form of art?

Well, they're in art galleries aren't they?

In my high school art class we had to draw live nudes.

So, yes. Not sure if it is a "form of art" as you say, or just subject matter. I'm leaning toward subject matter.

[PEDRO12]

Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89

In my high school art class we had to draw live nudes.

Lolwut? O_O
Wait you do this in school? WHERE DO YOU LIVE I AM SO MOVING!

I've heard of this though, in college, not high school ;____; It is a very interesting art though, to draw the naked human body.

[Vine Whip]

Originally Posted by PEDRO12

Lolwut? O_O
Wait you do this in school? WHERE DO YOU LIVE I AM SO MOVING!

I've heard of this though, in college, not high school ;____; It is a very interesting art though, to draw the naked human body.

I volunteered to be a model for one of those classes once. It was quite the experience, but I soon regretted it ):

[TRIFORCE89]

Originally Posted by PEDRO12

Lolwut? O_O
Wait you do this in school? WHERE DO YOU LIVE I AM SO MOVING!

I've heard of this though, in college, not high school ;____; It is a very interesting art though, to draw the naked human body.

Wasn't a common thing. It was an arts-based high school and we pushed for it. Adult models

[Mr. X]

"Draw me like one of your French girls, Jack."

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyway, remembered this article I read a while back.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...ndant-says-no/

Edit - Found another one.
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/quir...ing_is_not_art

[gimmepie]

Its just the human body, it doesn't have to be sexual so quite frankly there is nothing wrong with being seen nude if a person is comfortable about it. So I see no problem with using the human form as artwork.
There is nothing wrong with NON-SEXUAL nudity at any age (that is the whole foundation of naturism). I feel that our taboos against nudity are getting out of hand, in some European countries it really is treated as just that, something completely natural and not sexual at all.

Whilst I personally would not expose myself in this fashion any time soon I'm open minded and interested in these ideals as a topic if not anything else.

[Broken_Arrow]

Tbh,i feel disgusted whenever i see a nude anime pic so if i saw a real nude people i think i might faint Lol..seriously,it's not art IMO..bodies aren't for share specially when people stare for a sexual reasons....i don't like that kind of pics i don't even stand em! >.<

[gimmepie]

Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow

Tbh,i feel disgusted whenever i see a nude anime pic so if i saw a real nude people i think i might faint Lol..seriously,it's not art IMO..bodies aren't for share specially when people stare for a sexual reasons....i don't like that kind of pics i don't even stand em! >.<

Fair enough, that's your opinion. But why is that? You say it's not for sharing yet clothes are a human invention not an aspect of nature and even then many cultures around the world don't possess these taboos. Don't get me wrong I'm not criticising I'm just curious.

[TRIFORCE89]

Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow

Tbh,i feel disgusted whenever i see a nude anime pic so if i saw a real nude people i think i might faint Lol..seriously,it's not art IMO..bodies aren't for share specially when people stare for a sexual reasons....i don't like that kind of pics i don't even stand em! >.<

Well, yeah. I agree there. I don't get the anime and cartoon stuff.

Those don't seem artsy to me, just smutty.

[gimmepie]

Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89

Well, yeah. I agree there. I don't get the anime and cartoon stuff.

Those don't seem artsy to me, just smutty.

Oooooh was that soley about the anime/cartoon stuff? Because that usually is just pointless smut... I'm with you there.

[Broken_Arrow]

Originally Posted by gimmepie

Fair enough, that's your opinion. But why is that? You say it's not for sharing yet clothes are a human invention not an aspect of nature and even then many cultures around the world don't possess these taboos. Don't get me wrong I'm not criticising I'm just curious.

Hmm,i'll tell you! but first,answer this honestly...can you imagine yourself doing that? i mean..would you stand for someone ....eh sorry to say that "would you stand nude in front of people to draw you or to stare at you telling yourself it's okay it's an art?!

[Scarf]

Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow

Hmm,i'll tell you! but first,answer this honestly...can you imagine yourself doing that? i mean..would you stand for someone ....eh sorry to say that "would you stand nude in front of people to draw you or to stare at you telling yourself it's okay it's an art?!

Just because we wouldn't all be comfortable doing this doesn't mean it's bad. I don't like public speaking, but I don't think it's bad for people to do.

There's really nothing bad about the naked human body if people are respectful, just like most things in life.

[Broken_Arrow]

Originally Posted by Scarf

Just because we wouldn't all be comfortable doing this doesn't mean it's bad. I don't like public speaking, but I don't think it's bad for people to do.

There's really nothing bad about the naked human body if people are respectful, just like most things in life.

this is my point..when i read the thread first thing came to my mind was myself... i asked myself would i do that? i answered impossible! i won't do that because i simply won't respect myself if i did i won't be who i am and if you lose your self respect you lose all respect!..i don't see it as an art but that's my own opinion...people are different from one to another but i think that what you don't like to do yourself you won't like to see other people do!....Arts are arts no argue but nudity! Body is a valued private property you can't just share it with anyone "you don't actually know how they think and what are their intentions and minds!"

allow me to ask you...why don't you like to do it if you think it's art?

[Ice Car]

Nudity is not art. It might be to others, but not me. This reminds me, I'm quite ****ing tired of seeing Rule 34 on Danbooru and others.

[Broken_Arrow]

^ TBH,i hear lots of people talk about rule No.34 but never knew what is that mean....what is that mean?

[Vine Whip]

Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow

Hmm,i'll tell you! but first,answer this honestly...can you imagine yourself doing that? i mean..would you stand for someone ....eh sorry to say that "would you stand nude in front of people to draw you or to stare at you telling yourself it's okay it's an art?!

As I said earlier, I've modeled for a nude art class once. I only regretted it because it was my first time, and that's always scary. But honestly, everyone in a nude art class is a person of artistic and passionate taste and I can assure you they took me with the utmost respect!

[Ice Car]

Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow

^ TBH,i hear lots of people talk about rule No.34 but never knew what is that mean....what is that mean?

"There is porn of it, no exceptions".

I believe that is self-explanatory.

[Broken_Arrow]

i'll tell you my opinion in that case...body is already an art made by God..you don't have to show it because opinions won't change that truth.....most of the people who talk about nudity like it because it's a nude person so they feel like wow a nude "specially girls" come and look...they might even can't draw or even if they can...the artist can draw a nude body from his\her imagination not because they want to see a nude body but because they like what they draw...it's the will of the nude person that motive them to draw nudity cuz artistsloves to draw anything not a special thing!

cats and dogs an animals they don't wear clothes which mean they are nude too why can't we say they are nude! because we only think about drawing human nude bodies as sexually attractive

Trust me,people nowadays doesn't like it as an art more than staring and eitherway i can't see it as an art

again..human body itself is an art made by god we don't need to draw it as it's already an art and exists

EDIT

thanks Ice...i should've expected that lol

[Rococo]

The human body is a beautiful thing,and any who see it as disgusting have my pity.

That said...
What is your view on nudity?
It's natural.
Do you think it's wrong for a girl/guy to post nude pictures of themselves/others?
If it is of themselves,and they are comfortable with it,I have qualms with it...however if it's of another and without their consent then they have dishonored not only their victim,but more so themselves.
Do you think it can be a form of art?
I'd say it is,i'm more inclined towards other forms of art though.
Are you at all engaged in this art, and how so/much?
It's not something that I would do personally,not because I see it as wrong,but for the fact the i'm to self-conscious and as such would be uncomfortable with it.
As I stated above,i'm more inclined towards other forms of art.

And to everyone who thinks that all nudity is porn:
"We are all born sexual creatures,thank God, but it's a pity so many people despise and crush this natural gift.", Marilyn Monroe
It's good not to be weird about it,as such an obsession is certainly unhealthy,but it's a two way street my friends.
You needn't shun it. xD

[gimmepie]

Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow

Hmm,i'll tell you! but first,answer this honestly...can you imagine yourself doing that? i mean..would you stand for someone ....eh sorry to say that "would you stand nude in front of people to draw you or to stare at you telling yourself it's okay it's an art?!

I would consider depending on the artist... I'm not one hundred percent comfortable about doing that sort of thing but I don't shun the though of it because of that nor do I feel negatively towards the people who are more inclined to create artwork of the human body. Clothing was created for the purpose of acting the same way fur does and to protect delicate body parts, nudity and sexuality was never the issue until modern times.