Go Back   The PokéCommunity Forums > Entertainment & Hobbies > Culture & Media
Reload this Page Plot holes ahoy!

Notices
For all updates, view the main page.

Culture & Media This is where all of pop culture culminates and chats over a cup of joe. Here you can find discussions relating to the latest and greatest television shows, movies, music and literature, and much more!



Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1    
Old December 3rd, 2012 (01:09 PM). Edited December 3rd, 2012 by Mr Cat Dog.
Mr Cat Dog's Avatar
Mr Cat Dog Mr Cat Dog is offline
<insert witty eloquence here>
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: London, UK
Gender: Male
Nature: Relaxed
Posts: 10,919
Quote originally posted by Wikipedia:
A plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or constitutes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.
So, I've just been watching Homeland and getting annoyed at all the plot holes in it and thought 'aha! this would be a great topic for GE!' so here it is: Do plot holes bother you in narrative media (film/TV/books etc.)? Do you pick up on them easily? Any particular howlers that you can remember off the top of your head?

Dish, dish dish! :D
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2    
Old December 3rd, 2012 (01:33 PM).
Golurks Were Meant to Fly's Avatar
Golurks Were Meant to Fly Golurks Were Meant to Fly is offline
Follow no false light.
Crystal Tier
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: America, East Coast
Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant
Posts: 1,272
My god, plot holes fill me with a burning hatred! I feel like if I can keep track of the universe/the events of the plot, then the author should be able to too! So yes, I do pick up on them pretty easily, but mainly if I am really into the series. If it's not something I really enjoy/am forced to read, then I don't pay as much attention, hence don't notice the plot holes. But yeah, they bother me so much! It makes it harder to enjoy a series, but I'm sometimes able to understand that there will be these plot holes, (like if a story sets specific rules for magic) As for specific ones, I can't remember any right off the top of my head, but I'll come back later and post angrily about them or edit. :)
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3    
Old December 3rd, 2012 (02:43 PM).
Pinkie-Dawn's Avatar
Pinkie-Dawn Pinkie-Dawn is offline
Real Riders Wear Pink
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 5,946
Plot holes do bother me, whether it's ruining a character origin or using a character who's suppose to be either dead or imprisoned. These are common in movie franchises (Transformers, Shrek, etc) and long-running shows (the Simpsons, Family Guy, etc).
__________________
R.I.P. Serena's long hair (2013-2015)
Reply With Quote
  #4    
Old December 3rd, 2012 (08:03 PM).
Stormbringer's Avatar
Stormbringer Stormbringer is offline
Super Moderator, BSCS
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Storm's End
Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant
Posts: 13,664
I really can't think of an obvious one off the top of my head, but the dictionary description reeks of M. Night Shyamalan & JJ Abrams/Lost, haha.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5    
Old December 3rd, 2012 (08:29 PM).
God's Avatar
God God is offline
Crystal Tier
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,378
As long as the plot holes aren't glaringly obvious and they can be covered/considered exempt by the Rule Of Cool, they're okay. Okay, though. If it's a serious show I'm watching and not a sitcom or whatever, then it's different. Plot accuracy, please.
__________________
I'm doing science and I'm still alive!
I feel fantastic and I'm still alive!
While you're dying I'll be still alive!
And when you're dead I will be still alive!
Still alive! Still alive.
- GLaDOS (Portal, 2007)
Reply With Quote
  #6    
Old December 3rd, 2012 (08:43 PM).
Brynjolf's Avatar
Brynjolf Brynjolf is offline
It's so overt, it's covert!
 
Join Date: May 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,727
If the plothole doesn't confuse me, then I don't really care. Say a character dies in a TV show and comes back, I really don't give a crud. Because I usually end up missing the character anyway, haha. And plus, that's pretty much in every TV show these days. :\
Movie plotholes are extremely irritating, because then I can't think of a logical explanation as to why ___ did ____ but they just did and I can't prove why.
__________________
Are you sure you want to play this game?
I'm afraid you'd lose
Reply With Quote
  #7    
Old December 4th, 2012 (12:14 PM).
Esper's Avatar
Esper Esper is offline
Silver Tier
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: California
Posts: 7,851
I'll admit I've missed many a plot hole during many shows and movies, even on repeat viewings. If I'm sucked into the "feel" of the story I usually don't notice them - which is fine. Whatever works. Like most things in my media, I'm bothered by it in proportion to how large/offensive the mistake or error is and how invested I am in the story up to the appearance of the hole. Like an early plot hole might really bug me because it's thrown off my suspension of disbelief much too soon. But at the same time a late plot hole might make the whole 3/4 of a movie feel cheap if the hole is bad enough.

I guess I just don't have a consistent answer.
__________________
タコゾネス
The Galigo Region * Avatar
Reply With Quote
  #8    
Old December 5th, 2012 (02:17 PM).
shenanigans's Avatar
shenanigans shenanigans is online now
rising star
Administrator, BS
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Italy
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,385
I don't care about plot holes when I'm not expecting much from a film in the first place, or when the focus of the film isn't to tell a complete story. If the film does its job as expected then it's fine by me. What I can't stand, though, is when a film that actually requires a spot-on storyline and promises to be a really big deal falls flat on its face down gigantic plotholes. The main example that springs to mind right now is The Dark Knight Rises which... yeah. It just turned into a total mess for me because so much didn't fit together. I just feel like plotholes can leave a film incomplete and dissatisfying, even if the whole thing was understandable.

It's even worse in a TV series or in a book where the entire thing is based around a supposedly strong plotline.

edit: lol yeah i didnt like tdkr bring the hate
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9    
Old December 5th, 2012 (04:42 PM).
PiemanFiddy's Avatar
PiemanFiddy PiemanFiddy is offline
Spreader of the T-Virus
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Florida
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Posts: 167
All this talk about plot holes in movies or TV shows...

What about games? According to lots of people, Fallout 3 was full of plot holes. o_o
__________________
"The entire world will be infected. A new Genesis is at hand and I will be the creator!"
Reply With Quote
  #10    
Old December 6th, 2012 (03:16 PM).
Kura's Avatar
Kura Kura is offline
twitter.com/kuraberrym
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Horsham, UK (orig. Toronto, Canada)
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Nature: Serious
Posts: 10,935
The "remade" Last House on the Left movie is just riddled with plotholes. It makes no sense.. and it's terrible. I'm not even sure if it's a B movie but it's terrible for even that.
__________________
~Yuugiou Fan~
~Kamen Rider Fan~
♡(´・ω・`)LOVE! ☆
Reply With Quote
Reply
Quick Reply

Sponsored Links

You may also like.. (Beta)
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are UTC -8. The time now is 02:49 AM.