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I don't really think that X and Y have anything to do with axes and dimensions. I think they're more to correspond with chromosomes. Maybe Xerneas will be a female Pokémon and Yveltal will be male as a representation of that?
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It's suppose to be a Y. I think that glowing may have been the light passing though it's body as it's suppose to represent width, while Xerneas is height.
Yeah I think the axis idea isn't gonna happen.

Also it would be the other way around, Y is the vertical 'height' axis whilst X is the horizontal one. Quite how light passing through it can link to either of those though I have no idea.
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Quote originally posted by Jake♫:
I don't really think that X and Y have anything to do with axes and dimensions. I think they're more to correspond with chromosomes. Maybe Xerneas will be a female Pokémon and Yveltal will be male as a representation of that?
I think it's a double take on them or a double pun of sorts, meaning both meanings could very well apply.
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
I think it's a double take on them or a double pun of sorts, meaning both meanings could very well apply.
It very well could be, but I don't see it being that way honestly. Gen IV kind of took on time, space, and dimensions already, so repeating the theme kind of seems odd to me. They very well could do it again, but I don't think it will personally.
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Doesnt Yveltal look like a scale?

I am guessing that on its tail it will put the creature whose soul it wants to weight and on its hands it will weight the evil and the good of the soul.
If the evil is superior he will be sent to the 3rd legendary
If the good is superior he will be sent to xerneas.
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I think they're way better than the Zekrom and Reshiram.. At first I didn't really like the B/W legendaries.. These 2 are just instant love! The stag is so gorgeous! Mine mine mine!
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Quote originally posted by Jake♫:
It very well could be, but I don't see it being that way honestly. Gen IV kind of took on time, space, and dimensions already, so repeating the theme kind of seems odd to me. They very well could do it again, but I don't think it will personally.
I was mainly referring the basis of the games names, and why the impact on the axis basis on the designs of the legends rather than the theme of the legends. I think the legends are a mix of Norse with Axis design wise.
Also I saw this kite (the bird) on Wikipedia when I was looking on India's page. It sort of reminded me of Yvetal, the bird is connected to the legendary Garuda. the Garuda is the enemy of the Naga (a serpent) similar to how the serpent and the eagle in Norse hate one another, so I'm really thinking the third legendary will be a Serpentine Dragon type Pokemonof some kind, especially considering the third legends tend as of late are expies of Rayquaza (more so Origin forme Giratina).
Btw Giratina is suppose to represent Anti-matter according to Gamefreak.
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Quote originally posted by Creame:
I think they're way better than the Zekrom and Reshiram.. At first I didn't really like the B/W legendaries.. These 2 are just instant love! The stag is so gorgeous! Mine mine mine!
I definitely agree. Zekrom and Reshiram were just more unnecessary legendary dragons. I mean dang, we just got 3 of them in the previous titles. How unoriginal is that. Anyway, Xerneas and Yveltal stand out so much when it comes to previous legendaries and version mascots. Their designs are intricate and stunning; it is so very refreshing.
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I definitely agree. Zekrom and Reshiram were just more unnecessary legendary dragons. I mean dang, we just got 3 of them in the previous titles. How unoriginal is that. Anyway, Xerneas and Yveltal stand out so much when it comes to previous legendaries and version mascots. Their designs are intricate and stunning; it is so very refreshing.
True that! It's like Pokémon is down to earth again! When I first saw the cover of White 2, I even thought that White and Black Kyurem didn't really look like a Pokémon.. Not that I didn't enjoy the game, I loved it! It's just that especially Xerneas, and Yveltal as well, feel way more Pokémon-like!
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I even thought that White and Black Kyurem didn't really look like a Pokémon.
I agree somewhat White and Black Kyurem's designs were really complicated to say the least especially on the D.S. screen however Unova as a whole was very technology based. Xereneas and Yveltal however are very natural looking which really fits with the very pure looking Kalos region and compared to the other tiltle legends they seem really unique =)
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Xerneas is definitely more interesting than Yveltal. The multicolor antlers lead me to believe that Xerneas might have a broader move set, while Yvetal looks like a cut and dry dark flying type. Additonally, Xerneas is definitely a much better take on the "horned mammal" design of the three fighting type legends from black and white. He looks far more majestic and "legendary" than the more feral, violent looking Yveltal.
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Hmm, well I think both Pokemon are interesting and beautifully-designed, but I definitely like Yveltal's design a lot more. He looks like he could rip anything apart like an evil beast of ancient legend. I just look at his design, and all I can think is "Badass!" Yveltal might very well become my favorite legendary if they play his background story right. But hey, I always have a soft-spot for dark, intimidating, and powerful-looking things. Xerneas has that mysterious and regal air about it, but it doesn't have that edge to it. You look at it, and you can pretty much sum it up as being an agent of goodwill and love.
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Another thing I've considered while observing the two is the new feature that allows you to ride pokemon. With the possibility that I might be able to ride either of them, I'll always choose the one that doesn't look like its going to eat me lol.
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Xerneas to me doesn't look like either be either loving or violent, it simply looks enigmatic, which makes it all that more interesting.
Personally I perfer Yvetal myself.
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I'm sure I've said it before, but no harm in revisiting the fact that I like both designs. It's hard to imagine Xerneas and Yveltal as opposites. I know it's not an explicitly written rule that the version legendaries need to oppose one another as such, but Yveltal seems to exude a kind of "BAM, I'M SOOOOOOOOOO EVIL LOOKING, CHECK THIS OUT" sorta thing, whereas I look at Xerneas and all I see is... Well, a deer. A cool one, but when Yveltal seems to be so clearly Dark-based, it's kinda hard to know what to expect from Xerneas, since he's a blue deer with psychic-ish looking things on his antlers.
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Quote originally posted by aonshinzo:
I agree somewhat White and Black Kyurem's designs were really complicated to say the least especially on the D.S. screen however Unova as a whole was very technology based. Xereneas and Yveltal however are very natural looking which really fits with the very pure looking Kalos region and compared to the other tiltle legends they seem really unique =)
I love Nintendo for going for the natural look again! It sure is unique! Unova was a lovely region but Kalos will be so much better, I think! I cannot wait to explore Kalos!
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I also love how they went to more natural, less draconian looking legendaries. Gen 4 and 5's mascots looked mechanical (more so Dialga,Palkia, and Zekrom and Kyurem than Giratina, and Reshiram). This more natural design brings me back to Gen I and II's mascots.
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I wasn't really too keen on Unova or the mascots, they were alright but not the best. After seeing both Xerneas, Yveltal and Kalos I'm really looking forward to these games, they look so fresh and different!
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I'm amazed people thought so negatively of Zekrom & Reshiram, they were some of the best designs from B/W and one of the good points of the game. Admittedly, dragons were a bit of a tired idea by then, but they still look pretty awesome.

Kyurem can burn though, it looks terrible especially on a <100x<100 pixel sprite.

Personally Yveltal has nothing on Xerneas design wise, the difference is almost as big as the one between Palkia and Dialga.
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The elk Pokémon looks better than the other one IMO.
I like its rainbow antlers a lot, and I bet it's really strong since it's a legendary.
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Well, since it hasn't been quite a month prior to the last post, I hope I'm still allowed to post here.

So, it turns out Xerneas is a pure fairy-type Pokemon and Yveltal is a Dark/Flying-type Pokemon.

Yveltal was somewhat obvious, it had to be something of the dark/flying/fire/dragon variant(even though it looks more like a wyvern than a "dragon"). However, Xerneas being a pure fairy-type wasn't something I truly expected, but pretty nice.

Thoughts on the typing of these two?
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Yup CoroCoro has leaked. And yes, Xerneas is a pure Fairy type and Yveltal is Dark/Flying

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Personally I was expecting Yveltal's typing to be Dark/Flying and I'm glad it is. I was sort of thinking Xerneas to be part Fairy but not pure Fairy.

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Xerneas has an ability called Fairy Aura: powers up Fairy-type

Xerneas has a special move called Geo Control


Yveltal has an ability called Dark Aura: powers up Dark-type moves

Yveltal one called Death Wing.


I like Death Wing, that sounds really cool and I thinking I'm certain I'm getting Y now.
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Death Wing is kind of a lame-sounding move name. I don't know why but it just sounds...meh to me. I wish I had logic behind that, but it was just the first impression that it gave me. I am quite happy that it is Dark/Flying though, as predicted, as we were due for another Dark-typed legendary (Plus I'm not a big fan of Darkrai as it is, so one that I like aesthetically is nice).

Geo Control sounds awesome. Plus I'm pretty happy that Xerneas popped out Fairy-typed. It was kind of predictable ever since the type was revealed, but it's nice to finally get the confirmation. I do agree that I was expecting a dual-type, but I'm not torn up about it at all.
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For me it's the reverse Death Wing is the cool one and Geo Control is the lame one.

I'm not all that surprised that Xerneas is pure Fairy as it gave out that pure type aura, even though I wish it were part Grass...

Finally we got our Dark type mascot after four generations since it's introduction...to many Dragons...though Yvetal is the fifth flying mascot (Red, Gold,Silver, and Emerald all had mascots that were part flying). Let's see 8 games with dragon mascots versus 5 flying, and 4 water, 2 electric, 3 fire,2 ice (counting Kyurem twice due to B2W2), 1 ground, 1 grass, 1 poison, and 1 fairy...oh and 1 steel, and 1 ghost... leaving types such as fighting, Rock, and Bug for future mascot typings...

For me it's the reverse Death Wing is the cool one and Geo Control is the lame one.

I'm not all that surprised that Xerneas is pure Fairy as it gave out that pure type aura, even though I wish it were part Grass...

Finally we got our Dark type mascot after four generations since it's introduction...to many Dragons...though Yvetal is the fifth flying mascot (Red, Gold,Silver, and Emerald all had mascots that were part flying). Let's see 8 games with dragon mascots versus 5 flying, and 4 water, 2 electric, 3 fire,2 ice (counting Kyurem twice due to B2W2), 1 ground, 1 grass, 1 poison, and 1 fairy...oh and 1 steel, and 1 ghost... leaving types such as fighting, Rock, and Bug for future mascot typings...
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Yep, Skybacon is Dark/Flying, as most of us had predicted. I didn't expect Jingledeer to be just Fairy though, I thought he would be part Grass. Either way, I'm glad about this confirmation. Since R/S, we finally have mascots that aren't Dragon type. xD

I like their signature moves. They both sound awesome. Geo Control looks like a sort of earthquake-ish move, while Death Wing sounds like a OHKO move, though I doubt it.

Regardless of how everything turned out, I still prefer Yveltal, and will be getting Y. I may get X later down the road, depending on when/if the suspected Z Version comes out.
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Okay given that threads linked in the news summary are exempt from revival rule until game release, I think I've found a good topic to revive this with.

So, according to a screenshot that popped up lately, Yveltal's stats at Lv50 were revealed:

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Atk 151
Def 108
Sp Atk 151
Sp Def 102
Speed 118


Now these were the stats that were shown in the screenshot, but you know it confirms Yveltal will be an all-out attacker given the high Attack and Sp. Attack. This is making me think Xerneas will get the same BST, but have the stats distributed differently. Xerneas could probably end up with the same base stats as Yveltal, but have the stats of Yveltal's offenses as its defenses' stats instead.
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